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    IF you tried the snptracker, there are some puzzling information about DF99. If you input DF99 and run the map, and then select 'descendants' on the menu, the map will show a number of downward descendants for DF99 (or fgc16982 my end snp) with medieval labels in Germany. Now, the only known ancient DF99 individual is the Lombard CL94. How do we explain this?
    K8: French East/German South/Austrian 26%, French North East/Belgian/German West 25%, French North 25%, Irish/Scottish/Welsh 10%, French South/French Basque 9%, German East/Czech/Austrian 5%
    K36: French East/German South/Swiss German 33%, French North East/Belgian/German West 31%, French North Central 21%, Irish/Scottish/Welsh 9%, French South/ French Basque 6%
    K16: German 50%, French North West 19%, French North East 11%, Irish/English 11%, French South 9%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theconqueror View Post
    IF you tried the snptracker, there are some puzzling information about DF99. If you input DF99 and run the map, and then select 'descendants' on the menu, the map will show a number of downward descendants for DF99 (or fgc16982 my end snp) with medieval labels in Germany. Now, the only known ancient DF99 individual is the Lombard CL94. How do we explain this?
    I don't have any idea what data they are using, but that result comes as no surprise to me. I think it is clear that the majority of DF99 has a connection with the Germanic world.

    EDIT: Looking at the SNP tracker tool thread on this forum, it appears that the author of the program did not use any ancient DNA samples, but used modern samples from FTDNA along with their indicated ancestral origins and took the dates from YFull.
    Last edited by GoldenHind; 05-15-2019 at 05:33 PM.

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    With regards to the nodes of R-BY21739, I played around with Y-Full's age estimate thing.

    So, my branch with 17 "corrected" SNPs, 144.41 as the assumed mutation rate, and 60 years as the assumed age of "donors", the age of my particular R-BY21739 node would be given by (17*144.41)+60. So, 2514.97 years or thereabout.

    To put that in the scope of history, the ballpark seems potentially relevant to the 490's BCE. A significant historic event from around then would be the First Secessio Plebis, kind of tugs at the heart strings there.

    With regard to descendant nodes:

    R-BY21728 Anglo-Irish guy - 5 "corrected" SNPs, so 13th Century(ish)

    R-BY21754 & R-BY21755 presumably Anglo family - averaged to the 15th Century(ish)

    Kind of lonely with how far back the split seems to have happened. Not too surprised though given that males of my line tend to be complete weirdos, selection is a b**** - only natural that we'd have a buttload worth of private variants.
    Last edited by Telfermagne; 05-30-2019 at 01:48 AM.
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