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Thread: M5a'd origin or location?

  1. #11
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    I have recorded the following ancient M5 haplotypes:
    Hoabinhian hunter Pha Faen Laos La368 6000 BC M5,
    Late Xiaohe BA Xinjiang Ta24-12 M5 (16129 16223),
    Loebanr IA Loebanr1 Swat Valley Pakistan SPGT I5400 927-831 calBCE M5a,
    Loebanr IA Swat Valley Pakistan SPGT I13222 1000-800 BCE M5a,
    Loebanr IA Swat Valley Pakistan SPGT I12455 1000-800 BCE M5a,
    Loebanr IA Swat Valley Pakistan SPGT I13228 1000-800 BCE M5a,
    Xiongnu Battseengel Arkhangai Central Mongolia AT426 M5,
    Early Medieval Roopkund pilgrims Roopkund_A I3349/R17 770–945 AD M5a,
    Udegram Medieval Raja Gira Pakistan I2959 1037-1207 calCE M5a1
    Mongol Empire Muslim Graveyard in Qara-Qorum Kharkhorin City Övörkhangai Mongolia AT803 M5

    In addition to the samples above, I have recorded the following two samples as possible M5 haplotypes:
    Western Scythian Southern Ural Early Sarmatian Pokrovka Pr3/I0575 M5 (16129A),
    Egyin Gol IA Mongolia burial 90 M5 (16129A 16223).
    Last edited by Kristiina; 11-26-2019 at 09:24 AM.

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  3. #12
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    Indian - Punjabi Jatt
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    My father received his Dante Labs results today. 23andMe told me he's M5a1a, and looking at his mtDNA sequence, he's actually pre-M5a1a. To explain what I mean, M5a1a is currently defined by the following mutations: G185A, T334C, G9064A and G11016A. My father has the T334C, G9064A and G11016A mutations but lacks the G185A mutation, so his sample should split the M5a1a tree when I upload it to YFull and when they finally get around to updating their MTree. Here are his novels: 152C, 8290A and 8581A. I'm planning on analysing the M5a1/M5a1a samples from the YFull MTree. Unfortunately, there aren't many samples on there so I don't have my hopes up. If anyone could point me in the direction of more M5a1/M5a1a samples then that would be great, although I will also look myself.
    YFull: YF72440 (FTDNA - IN41220)

    Ancestral Haplos (Punjabi Jatt):
    * Father: R2-SK2142 > A26339 - M5a1a
    * Maternal Uncle: R1b-Z2109 > Y84821 - U7a3a
    * MGMs F (?): L-M22 > M357 - ?
    * PGMs F (?): Q-F1096 > F4747 - ?
    * MGMs MGF (?): R1a-Z93 > Y7 - ?

    Friends Haplos:
    * North Moroccan Berber: E-M35 > M81 - R0
    * Han Chinese: O-M117 > F1531 - M7e
    * Gujarati Lohana (?): T-Y11151 > Y13290 - R30b1

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