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    Does the new update include the middle east? I found a Palestinian Christian match with no Europe South component, it seems they stuck it under the middle east.
    I'm not sure which version is latest. Mine or his?
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s4e...w?usp=drivesdk
    Last edited by Iseid0441; 07-09-2018 at 04:20 AM. Reason: Corrected Lebanese to Palestinian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iseid0441 View Post
    Does the new update include the middle east? I found a Lebanese match with no Europe South component, it seems they stuck it under the middle east.
    I'm not sure which version is latest. Mine or his?
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s4e...w?usp=drivesdk
    Yes, it does.
    Looking at their description, it says it's:
    Primarily located in Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Lebanon, Israel, Qatar, Bahrain and Egypt.
    Also found in: Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Cyprus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeeprince View Post
    Yes, it does.
    Looking at their description, it says it's:
    Primarily located in Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Lebanon, Israel, Qatar, Bahrain and Egypt.
    Also found in: Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Cyprus.
    So you think this person already got the new update? I'm just wondering if Sikeliot earlier statement is correct. He said that the Europe South component is actually Levantine.
    European Jewish also disappeared.
    Here's a screenshot
    IMG_20180708_195749.png
    Last edited by Iseid0441; 07-09-2018 at 04:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iseid0441 View Post
    So you think this person already got the new update? I'm just wondering if Sikeliot earlier statement is correct. He said that the Europe South component is actually Levantine.
    European Jewish also disappeared.
    Here's a screenshot
    IMG_20180708_195749.png
    The second person? Yes, I think that person has received the update. They don't have trace regions anymore either.

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    Ok I’m 1/4 English (traced back to 1600s no known Irish or Scots/Welsh )

    1/4 Triestian (more ethnic Slovenian/ Austrains than Italians) this area was “Italianised” under fascist Italy

    Father from Syria with a western Turkish (Istanbul ) & Albanian mother

    Father is half “Arab” and half Kurdish Syrian

    New results are

    28% Greece & Balkans
    27% Eastern Europe
    14% England & Wales
    7% Germanic Europe
    3% Norwegian
    6% Turkey & Caucasus
    5% Iran & Persia (Kurdish?)
    6% Middle East
    2% Italy
    2% Baltic’s


    I’d say that’s pretty much 98% spot on what I know of my families paper genealogy .

    As an aside familytreeDNA

    85% European
    5% western Asian (Middle East)
    5% Caucasus (Turkey)
    5% central Asian (this was surpassing as the population is north India , Pakistan and Afghanistan / Kashmir
    Last edited by dinoprada; 07-29-2018 at 05:17 PM.

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    Iran AchaemenidEmpire1 Iran Safavid Empire United States of America Kurdistan Iran Sassanid Empire
    My aunts results: (pretty typical Southern Iranian)
    65% Caucasus
    15% Asia South
    15% Middle East
    2% European Jewish
    1% Senegal
    1% Cameroon and Congo
    1% Africa North

    My 3rd cousin?( half Azeri half Bakhtiari, but his results are a bit off in my opinion, the GEDmatch makes more sense)
    54% Caucasus
    20% Asia South
    17% Middle East
    4% European Jewish
    4% Europe South
    1% Great Britain

    The only updated Iranian distant match I could find.
    Iran/Persia 79%
    Turkey and Caucasus 19%
    Middle East 2%
    (I dont have the numbers of the old result but i have the regions in order :Caucasus, Middle East, Asia South, European Jewish, Africa North)
    It seems like the new update reduces the amount of Middle East and Asian South in Iranian significantly, also seemingly completely removing the odd European Jewish result that West Asians get.
    I wish I knew what her results were prior to the update so I could better guess my own results, but I think from reading the regions the match is pretty typically Iranian. I just wonder if they have any Azeri or known Turkish heritage or if Iranians will all have a decent chunk of Turkey and Caucasus

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    Lebanon Phoenicia
    What's the reason behind Italian/Greek DNA being there? Can it be traced to the Roman/Seleucid times or due to Arab invasion of Southern Italy?
    Last edited by Moe12; 08-23-2018 at 05:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    My mom's Lebanese and my dad is German/British/Ashkenazi:

    My results:

    Ethnicity Estimate
    Europe South 47%
    Europe West 19%
    Middle East 14%
    [Syrian-Lebanese -- this is the only "genetic community" they designated for me; I have no "circles"]
    Caucasus 8%
    Low Confidence Regions
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 4%
    Great Britain 3%
    European Jewish 3%
    Asia South 1%
    Scandinavia 1%
    Now with the new update:

    As I mentioned in the update thread, compared to the old result and paper (50% Lebanese, 20% Brit, 20% German, 5% Belgian, 5% Jewish), I think it's mostly an improvement, other than the way the maps split Lebanon in half -- I'm pretty sure I have more in common autosomally with Syrians, Armenians and southern Turks than Saudis and Eritreans

    Middle East 36%
    Syrian-Lebanese
    Germanic Europe 25%
    Italy 22%
    England, Wales & Northwestern Europe 10%
    Greece and the Balkans 3%
    European Jewish 2%
    Turkey and the Caucasus 2% (seems really low!)

    Attachment 25427
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe12 View Post
    What's the reason behind Italian/Greek DNA being there? Can it be traced to the Roman/Seleucid times or due to Arab invasion of Southern Italy?
    A lot Lebanese get around 20% Southern Europe, not because they actually have ancestry there, but because overlap and similarities that science can't distinguish yet. Like how many Levantines get small percentages of European Jewish or North African because of similarities not that they have ancestors from there. Although, it wouldn't be surprising that a small percent of that South Euro is from Greek/Roman times.
    78.1% Lebanese (Lebanon) + 21.9% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 3.3

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    Anyone else got their new Ancestry results?
    I'm interested in seeing other MENA results. Please try the trick in the following thread to peek into the new update.

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....e-2018/page178


    Here's mine

    {"version":4,"createdAt":1535390758000,"regions ":[{"key":"NearEast","percentage":91,"lowerConfidence ":84,"upperConfidence":100,"lowConfidenceAssignmen t":false,"color":"#f1e000"},{"key":"TurkeyArmenia" ,"percentage":9,"lowerConfidence":0,"upperConfiden ce":15,"lowConfidenceAssignment":false,"color":"#7 5cd00"}]}
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