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    Quote Originally Posted by Syriac View Post
    Yes saw that to on some DNA site, when i uploaded raw data.
    Interesting. That surprises me, as we don't have any Sumerian samples available (or at least since the last time I checked which wasn't too long ago).

    Regardless, I'm sure that all of us with direct roots in the civilizations of the Ancient Near East likely have some Sumerian ancestors from a while back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    Interesting. That surprises me, as we don't have any Sumerian samples available (or at least since the last time I checked which wasn't too long ago).

    Regardless, I'm sure that all of us with direct roots in the civilizations of the Ancient Near East likely have some Sumerian ancestors from a while back.

    Sorry my misstake, it was city called Samara something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syriac View Post
    Sorry my misstake, it was city called Samara something.
    Ah okay, makes a lot more sense now! Samara is in Russia though, so still a bit surprising.

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    What are my ancestors ?

    I will post more in this middle eastern. I was born in Istanbul but my parents and generations atleast for maybe 1000 years er got our roots in south east Turkey.

    My ancestry you got it in earlier post. I will post a few more.

    DNA LAND:

    West Eurasian 100%
    Central Indoeuropean 62%
    Arab/Egyptian 20%
    Balkan 16%
    Mediterranean Islander 1.7%

    I dont know what they mean by balkan. I donŽt got any roots to balkan. Indoeuropean that another very strange thing because i am semite and speak a arameic dialect that is called Syriac or as we says Toroyo or Suryoyo.

    Familytree dna:

    Middle Eastern 88%
    Asia Minor 64%
    West Middle East
    Jewish Diaspora 9%
    Sephardic 9%
    Central/South Asian 2%
    Central Asia

    GEDmatch

    Jtest Oracle results:


    Jtest Oracle results:
    Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

    Kit A109243

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EAST_MED 41.67
    2 WEST_ASIAN 27.72
    3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.23
    4 ASHKENAZI 5.51
    5 WEST_MED 5.27
    6 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.95
    7 ATLANTIC 1.82
    8 EAST_EURO 0.83

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Assyrian 3.3
    2 Mandean 4.35
    3 Armenian 9.47
    4 Kurdish 11.98
    5 TR 13.59
    6 IQ 13.63
    7 IR 14.32
    8 Druze 15.97
    9 Samaritan 18.32
    10 GR 22.55
    11 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 24.57
    12 GE 25.17
    13 Lezgin 30.78
    14 AJ 34.82
    15 Tuscan 35.64
    16 Brahui 37.48
    17 Balochi 38.35
    18 RO 38.67
    19 North_Italian 40.05
    20 Serbian 40.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Mandean 2.77
    2 93% Assyrian + 7% Druze 3.09
    3 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Bedouin 3.14
    4 94.9% Assyrian + 5.1% Samaritan 3.16
    5 94.5% Assyrian + 5.5% IQ 3.21
    6 100% Assyrian + 0% AJ 3.3
    7 100% Assyrian + 0% Algerian 3.3
    8 100% Assyrian + 0% Armenian 3.3
    9 100% Assyrian + 0% AT 3.3
    10 100% Assyrian + 0% Balochi 3.3
    11 100% Assyrian + 0% Bangladeshi 3.3
    12 100% Assyrian + 0% Belorussian 3.3
    13 100% Assyrian + 0% Brahui 3.3
    14 100% Assyrian + 0% Burusho 3.3
    15 100% Assyrian + 0% Chinese 3.3
    16 100% Assyrian + 0% Chukchi 3.3
    17 100% Assyrian + 0% Cornish 3.3
    18 100% Assyrian + 0% DK 3.3
    19 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Finnish 3.3
    20 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Russian 3.3



    LetŽs stop here iŽam ASHKENAZI jew and earlier i was Sephardic jew, why ?

    GEDMATCH another caluclator:

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 41.45
    2 West_Asian 31.91
    3 West_Med 12.7
    4 Red_Sea 7.76
    5 South_Asian 4.55
    6 North_Atlantic 1.15
    7 Oceanian 0.26
    8 Siberian 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Assyrian 2.79
    2 Kurdish_Jewish 3.79
    3 Iranian_Jewish 4.59
    4 Georgian_Jewish 6.68
    5 Armenian 8.83
    6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.48
    7 Syrian 11.81
    8 Lebanese_Druze 12.18
    9 Lebanese_Christian 12.41
    10 Cyprian 13.28
    11 Turkish 13.41
    12 Samaritan 14.42
    13 Azeri 14.55
    14 Kurdish 14.7
    15 Iranian 15.37
    16 Jordanian 15.96
    17 Palestinian 16.86
    18 Tunisian_Jewish 21.19
    19 Bedouin 21.56
    20 Libyan_Jewish 21.87

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 89% Assyrian + 11% Lebanese_Christian 2.35
    2 91.5% Assyrian + 8.5% Samaritan 2.46
    3 68.7% Assyrian + 31.3% Kurdish_Jewish 2.46
    4 90.7% Assyrian + 9.3% Lebanese_Druze 2.51
    5 78% Assyrian + 22% Iranian_Jewish 2.58
    6 93.4% Assyrian + 6.6% Cyprian 2.63
    7 75.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 24.3% Armenian 2.65
    8 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Yemenite_Jewish 2.69
    9 95.9% Assyrian + 4.1% Palestinian 2.7
    10 92.8% Assyrian + 7.2% Lebanese_Muslim 2.7
    11 96.8% Assyrian + 3.2% Tunisian_Jewish 2.71
    12 97% Assyrian + 3% Libyan_Jewish 2.71
    13 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Algerian_Jewish 2.74
    14 99% Assyrian + 1% Sardinian 2.74
    15 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Italian_Jewish 2.74
    16 96% Assyrian + 4% Syrian 2.75
    17 98% Assyrian + 2% Sephardic_Jewish 2.75
    18 97.3% Assyrian + 2.7% Jordanian 2.76
    19 98.6% Assyrian + 1.4% Egyptian 2.76
    20 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Saudi 2.77



    What iŽam ? I canŽt be caucasian or indo european. I consider my self as Assyrian and semite would you come to same result ?
    Is there any anicent Assyrian dna i can compare whit ?

    IŽam so proud that all empires that passed Turkey and middle east could not get us, no mongol blood and chingiz khan was in Turkey and Middle east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syriac View Post
    What are my ancestors ?

    I will post more in this middle eastern. I was born in Istanbul but my parents and generations atleast for maybe 1000 years er got our roots in south east Turkey.

    My ancestry you got it in earlier post. I will post a few more.

    DNA LAND:

    West Eurasian 100%
    Central Indoeuropean 62%
    Arab/Egyptian 20%
    Balkan 16%
    Mediterranean Islander 1.7%

    I dont know what they mean by balkan. I donŽt got any roots to balkan. Indoeuropean that another very strange thing because i am semite and speak a arameic dialect that is called Syriac or as we says Toroyo or Suryoyo.

    Familytree dna:

    Middle Eastern 88%
    Asia Minor 64%
    West Middle East
    Jewish Diaspora 9%
    Sephardic 9%
    Central/South Asian 2%
    Central Asia

    GEDmatch

    Jtest Oracle results:


    Jtest Oracle results:
    Jtest Oracle population reference data revised 06 Nov 2012.

    Kit A109243

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 EAST_MED 41.67
    2 WEST_ASIAN 27.72
    3 MIDDLE_EASTERN 14.23
    4 ASHKENAZI 5.51
    5 WEST_MED 5.27
    6 SOUTH_ASIAN 2.95
    7 ATLANTIC 1.82
    8 EAST_EURO 0.83

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Assyrian 3.3
    2 Mandean 4.35
    3 Armenian 9.47
    4 Kurdish 11.98
    5 TR 13.59
    6 IQ 13.63
    7 IR 14.32
    8 Druze 15.97
    9 Samaritan 18.32
    10 GR 22.55
    11 South_Italian_&_Sicilian 24.57
    12 GE 25.17
    13 Lezgin 30.78
    14 AJ 34.82
    15 Tuscan 35.64
    16 Brahui 37.48
    17 Balochi 38.35
    18 RO 38.67
    19 North_Italian 40.05
    20 Serbian 40.45

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 65.1% Assyrian + 34.9% Mandean 2.77
    2 93% Assyrian + 7% Druze 3.09
    3 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Bedouin 3.14
    4 94.9% Assyrian + 5.1% Samaritan 3.16
    5 94.5% Assyrian + 5.5% IQ 3.21
    6 100% Assyrian + 0% AJ 3.3
    7 100% Assyrian + 0% Algerian 3.3
    8 100% Assyrian + 0% Armenian 3.3
    9 100% Assyrian + 0% AT 3.3
    10 100% Assyrian + 0% Balochi 3.3
    11 100% Assyrian + 0% Bangladeshi 3.3
    12 100% Assyrian + 0% Belorussian 3.3
    13 100% Assyrian + 0% Brahui 3.3
    14 100% Assyrian + 0% Burusho 3.3
    15 100% Assyrian + 0% Chinese 3.3
    16 100% Assyrian + 0% Chukchi 3.3
    17 100% Assyrian + 0% Cornish 3.3
    18 100% Assyrian + 0% DK 3.3
    19 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Finnish 3.3
    20 100% Assyrian + 0% East_Russian 3.3



    LetŽs stop here iŽam ASHKENAZI jew and earlier i was Sephardic jew, why ?

    GEDMATCH another caluclator:

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 41.45
    2 West_Asian 31.91
    3 West_Med 12.7
    4 Red_Sea 7.76
    5 South_Asian 4.55
    6 North_Atlantic 1.15
    7 Oceanian 0.26
    8 Siberian 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Assyrian 2.79
    2 Kurdish_Jewish 3.79
    3 Iranian_Jewish 4.59
    4 Georgian_Jewish 6.68
    5 Armenian 8.83
    6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.48
    7 Syrian 11.81
    8 Lebanese_Druze 12.18
    9 Lebanese_Christian 12.41
    10 Cyprian 13.28
    11 Turkish 13.41
    12 Samaritan 14.42
    13 Azeri 14.55
    14 Kurdish 14.7
    15 Iranian 15.37
    16 Jordanian 15.96
    17 Palestinian 16.86
    18 Tunisian_Jewish 21.19
    19 Bedouin 21.56
    20 Libyan_Jewish 21.87

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 89% Assyrian + 11% Lebanese_Christian 2.35
    2 91.5% Assyrian + 8.5% Samaritan 2.46
    3 68.7% Assyrian + 31.3% Kurdish_Jewish 2.46
    4 90.7% Assyrian + 9.3% Lebanese_Druze 2.51
    5 78% Assyrian + 22% Iranian_Jewish 2.58
    6 93.4% Assyrian + 6.6% Cyprian 2.63
    7 75.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 24.3% Armenian 2.65
    8 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Yemenite_Jewish 2.69
    9 95.9% Assyrian + 4.1% Palestinian 2.7
    10 92.8% Assyrian + 7.2% Lebanese_Muslim 2.7
    11 96.8% Assyrian + 3.2% Tunisian_Jewish 2.71
    12 97% Assyrian + 3% Libyan_Jewish 2.71
    13 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Algerian_Jewish 2.74
    14 99% Assyrian + 1% Sardinian 2.74
    15 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Italian_Jewish 2.74
    16 96% Assyrian + 4% Syrian 2.75
    17 98% Assyrian + 2% Sephardic_Jewish 2.75
    18 97.3% Assyrian + 2.7% Jordanian 2.76
    19 98.6% Assyrian + 1.4% Egyptian 2.76
    20 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Saudi 2.77



    What iŽam ? I canŽt be caucasian or indo european. I consider my self as Assyrian and semite would you come to same result ?
    Is there any anicent Assyrian dna i can compare whit ?

    IŽam so proud that all empires that passed Turkey and middle east could not get us, no mongol blood and chingiz khan was in Turkey and Middle east.
    Ashkenazi, Sephardic ect.. come up because they have origins in the Near East. So it means you share a common ancient dna with them. This doesn't mean you are actually a decedent of Ashkenazi people.

    Example: I am Lebanese, sometimes I get Jewish because most Jewish populations still retain a lot of DNA from the Levant. Both Lebanese and Jews share a common dna with very ancient proto-semitic populations.

    When I compare my DNA to ancient samples, NOT commercial tests.. it becomes more realistic. Usually on Commercial tests I get Jewish, Arab, Italian, ect.. but when I compare with an ancient Caananite sample I am extremely close to it thus proving that I am mostly of Caananite-Phoenician admixture.

    Also: Caucuses people migrated into the region. Many peoples from the Fertile Crescent have Kura Araxes related DNA from an ancient migration. This is before any civilization like Assyrians, Babylonians, Phoenicians ect.. emerged. I can't speak for Assyrians because I don't know enough but for Phoenician-Caananite people they are mainly a mix of Proto-Semitic, Caucuses, and small Indo-European percentage. I'm sure other people can explain Assyrians for you better.

    Tihi Suryoye
    Last edited by Batroun; 10-14-2018 at 07:29 PM.

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    Has anyone seen results from the Arabian Peninsula or Egypt? I am trying to pinpoint the origin of my mother's great grandmother via her MENA matches on AncestryDNA
    My Father's K15
    76.5% Somali + 23.5% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.52
    94.6% Somali + 5.4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.58


    Mother's K15

    98.2% Somali + 1.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.87
    98.1% Somali + 1.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.91
    98.1% Somali + 1.9% Palestinian @ 1.91
    97.8% Somali + 2.2% Egyptian @ 1.92

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeeprince View Post
    Yes, it does.
    Looking at their description, it says it's:
    Primarily located in Syria, Saudia Arabia, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, UAE, Lebanon, Israel, Qatar, Bahrain and Egypt.
    Also found in: Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Tunisia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Djibouti and Cyprus.
    Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly general? They merged like 4 or 5 regions into one. This test is close to useless for Arabs.

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    My mother has a couple Saudi matches that score 100% Middle Eastern and one member of the Bahraini Aal Khalifa clan who also scores 100%
    My Father's K15
    76.5% Somali + 23.5% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 2.52
    94.6% Somali + 5.4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 2.58


    Mother's K15

    98.2% Somali + 1.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.87
    98.1% Somali + 1.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.91
    98.1% Somali + 1.9% Palestinian @ 1.91
    97.8% Somali + 2.2% Egyptian @ 1.92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Batroun View Post
    Ashkenazi, Sephardic ect.. come up because they have origins in the Near East. So it means you share a common ancient dna with them. This doesn't mean you are actually a decedent of Ashkenazi people.

    Example: I am Lebanese, sometimes I get Jewish because most Jewish populations still retain a lot of DNA from the Levant. Both Lebanese and Jews share a common dna with very ancient proto-semitic populations.

    When I compare my DNA to ancient samples, NOT commercial tests.. it becomes more realistic. Usually on Commercial tests I get Jewish, Arab, Italian, ect.. but when I compare with an ancient Caananite sample I am extremely close to it thus proving that I am mostly of Caananite-Phoenician admixture.

    Also: Caucuses people migrated into the region. Many peoples from the Fertile Crescent have Kura Araxes related DNA from an ancient migration. This is before any civilization like Assyrians, Babylonians, Phoenicians ect.. emerged. I can't speak for Assyrians because I don't know enough but for Phoenician-Caananite people they are mainly a mix of Proto-Semitic, Caucuses, and small Indo-European percentage. I'm sure other people can explain Assyrians for you better.

    Tihi Suryoye
    Curious as how you do this.

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