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    After joining the J2b group on YFULL, I noticed that my sample and the Bulgarian sample underneath mine on the YFULL tree were the only ones so far that have tested positive for SNP Y182183. Initially I was under the impression that my lineage split from J-Y36202 at the point of the most recent common ancestor but because both of our samples have it and I tested negative for all the other mutations defining the other samples, this would indicate that this is an older mutation and that the other mutations must have occurred in their line after it diverged from my most recent common ancestor with them.
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    I remember Maciamo Hay's material being the first that I read to propose the idea that Hallstatt and La Tene Celts carried J2b2 in minority. Even before I had more knowledge of my lineage, I was looking into the Hallstatt Culture. I even remember reading about Noricum and a Celtic confederacy dominating/assimilating an earlier Illyrian population. In this scenario, along with cultural exchange, genetic exchange wasn't just likely but inevitable.

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    But in any event in my case I know I should be looking at J-Y182183 and when and where exactly that mutation occurred and see if YFULL picks up anything knew in the near future as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slamberty View Post
    I remember Maciamo Hay's material being the first that I read to propose the idea that Hallstatt and La Tene Celts carried J2b2 in minority. Even before I had more knowledge of my lineage, I was looking into the Hallstatt Culture. I even remember reading about Noricum and a Celtic confederacy dominating/assimilating an earlier Illyrian population. In this scenario, along with cultural exchange, genetic exchange wasn't just likely but inevitable.
    Unlikely, regions with strong j2b have non existant western european r1b

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    Theoretically speaking anyway.

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    But that's a good point as well, the lack of Western European paternal lineages as well.

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    That's why I was leaning more in the direction of Roman expansion in my case.

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    Actually I stand corrected there, I've pretty much ruled out every other theory I had/might have had in the past given the circumstances and am looking at Roman expansion in the case of my lineage.

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    I've taken a particular interest in Albania as well given my closest matches on the YFULL tree as well as looking at the number of Thracian and/or Illyrian units that were deployed to Roman Gaul/Britannia.

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