What is South East Eurasian?

[Lara101]

This is a very big genetic component in most South Asians. Is this ASI/Andamanese/Onge or more Papuan/Oceania/Australian Aborignal realated?

South Asians are interesting Hybrid of two main very different peoples. One being closely realated to Steppes/European/Middle Eastern people. The other being realted to the vary first people who left Africa, who populated south/south east asia

[JerryS.]

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[bmoney]

Yes would be interested if anyone knows the breakdown of this component

[Lara101]

Yes would be interested if anyone knows the breakdown of this component

Onge and Papuan are the closes to ASI I think.

[MonkeyDLuffy]

Onge and Papuan are the closes to ASI I think.

not Papuan but Onge and South east asian like. Keep in mind ASI is very minor in majority of South Asians now, usually around 10-25% depending on the region.

[Lara101]

not Papuan but Onge and South east asian like. Keep in mind ASI is very minor in majority of South Asians now, usually around 10-25% depending on the region.

Other than ASI what is there? I would think average south asians are 50/50 between European/Steppe ancestry and South east Eurasian and also south east asian is basically related to ancient Oceanic people I presume like Papuan, Aborignals, melenasians etc..., modern south east asians have mixed with Chinese and others from north a lot

[MonkeyDLuffy]

Other than ASI what is there? I would think average south asians are 50/50 between European/Steppe ancestry and South east Eurasian and also south east asian is basically related to ancient Oceanic people I presume like Papuan, Aborignals, melenasians etc..., modern south east asians have mixed with Chinese and others from north a lot

ANE/Steppe, Farmers, WHG etc. Not even the tribals would be 50/50%. Maybe some, but aside from tribals, none. We always forget to address that South Asia is a huge subcontinent, almost the size of europe:



we didn't have invasions from east asia because of Himalayas, but we did have multiple invasions and migrations from west asia and central asia. Keep in mind that ASI migration was only once, but West Asian migrations were multiple. So it would be close to impossible for South Asians to be 50/50. The ASI indeed increase as you go south and east in the subcontinent. All south asians are not same, it's like saying an Italian and Nordic or russian is same.

[Lara101]

ANE/Steppe, Farmers, WHG etc. Not even the tribals would be 50/50%. Maybe some, but aside from tribals, none. We always forget to address that South Asia is a huge subcontinent, almost the size of europe:



we didn't have invasions from east asia because of Himalayas, but we did have multiple invasions and migrations from west asia and central asia. Keep in mind that ASI migration was only once, but West Asian migrations were multiple. So it would be close to impossible for South Asians to be 50/50. The ASI indeed increase as you go south and east in the subcontinent. All south asians are not same, it's like saying an Italian and Nordic or russian is same.

Not all south asians are same, I agree, obviously people in the north west like Kashmiries, Jatts, Gujjars, Pakistani groups etc... will be more Steppe related then South East Eurasian, you can tell that by just looking at them. However deeper in to India and especially South India, I have strong doubts they will be more steppes then South East Eurasian, are there any results from regular non brahmin tamils? Even many regular UPites where I am from are very dark looking, obviously because they are more native to India. My family is from UP India, My father side is pretty dark on average, some of of them can easily fit in Tamil Nadu, my mom side is lighter, they actually look Nepali Pahari type, they are from central UP not far from Nepal. The odd thing though is, my dad side is Q1B, which is a central asian haplogroup

[MonkeyDLuffy]

Now you are bringing Physical appearance with genetics. A Punjabi jatt can look like a Tamil (plenty of them do) but will have genetics like other Punjabi jatts. Steppe is not the only ancestry we have, we have farmers as well. A south Indian like Aishwarya rai can be really light but have same genetics like her community. Check out results of Indians and Pakistanis in Kurd's K12 thread, we have Kerela nair and even he doesnt score more than 30% south eurasian.

[Lara101]

Now you are bringing Physical appearance with genetics. A Punjabi jatt can look like a Tamil (plenty of them do) but will have genetics like other Punjabi jatts. Steppe is not the only ancestry we have, we have farmers as well. A south Indian like Aishwarya rai can be really light but have same genetics like her community. Check out results of Indians and Pakistanis in Kurd's K12 thread, we have Kerela nair and even he doesnt score more than 30% south eurasian.

But even punjabis are scoring 23-25% South east eurasian. How in the world would south indians only score 6-7% more south east eurasian then NW south asians. Something does not make sense. Also darker punjabies do not look south indian. Do you have link to that spread sheet?