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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Are you arguing that Makkah never existed prior to Islam or that it wasn't an important commercial center?
    Makkah was a local city and a seaport. Religious hate driven denial is not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saad2016 View Post
    Makkah was a local city and a seaport. Religious hate driven denial is not good.
    Not only it was a seaport and a city, all traders from from Yemen or going to Yemen would pass by Mecca to do pilgrimage to the Kaaba. If I recall correctly Ptolemy described the place there with a temple called "Macorabah", or similar God's house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe12 View Post
    Not only it was a seaport and a city, all traders from from Yemen or going to Yemen would pass by Mecca to do pilgrimage to the Kaaba. If I recall correctly Ptolemy described the place there with a temple called "Macorabah", or similar God's house.
    agreed. just because it wasn't Venice , Rome etc . does not mean that u can deny it.

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    Assalamu Alaikum,

    I like to know
    which DNA test you did?
    I saw many kind of tests so i am confused.
    What does this mean A-PH856 >>>>A-V3663
    And what does this mean : YF07912

    Thanks for your time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshad View Post
    Assalamu Alaikum,

    I like to know
    which DNA test you did?
    I saw many kind of tests so i am confused.
    What does this mean A-PH856 >>>>A-V3663
    And what does this mean : YF07912

    Thanks for your time
    These are paternal results from a "Next-Generation-Sequencing" Y-DNA test (NGS)

    This particular user used an NGS service offered by FTDNA ("Big-Y"). FGC is another well reputed company offering NGS Y-DNA testing.

    After receiving your NGS results in a BAM file, you could then have the data sent to Yfull for interpretation analysis. You'd then received their interpretation results; be given your own Yfull ID; and get plotted on the Y-tree within a sub-clade of your Y-DNA haplogroup

    YF07912 is the Yfull ID of the initial poster "Quraish tribe"

    A-PH856 is a SNP associated with subclade A-V3663
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiloSaharan View Post
    These are paternal results from a "Next-Generation-Sequencing" Y-DNA test (NGS)

    This particular user used an NGS service offered by FTDNA ("Big-Y"). FGC is another well reputed company offering NGS Y-DNA testing.

    After receiving your NGS results in a BAM file, you could then have the data sent to Yfull for interpretation analysis. You'd then received their interpretation results; be given your own Yfull ID; and get plotted on the Y-tree within a sub-clade of your Y-DNA haplogroup

    YF07912 is the Yfull ID of the initial poster "Quraish tribe"

    A-PH856 is a SNP associated with subclade A-V3663
    Hi nilosaharan i want to ask you please in south sudan there is A-M13 is they all in Snp Y26839?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSO View Post
    Hi nilosaharan i want to ask you please in south sudan there is A-M13 is they all in Snp Y26839?
    Hi WSO, yes that seems to be the case based on the limited samples.

    Y26839 in South-Sudanese nilotes would reflect V4735 from this paper "The peopling of the last Green Sahara revealed by high-coverage resequencing of trans-Saharan patrilineages", (D’Atanasio, 2018):

     


    "The Sahelian belt spans from the Atlantic Ocean to the Red Sea, immediately south of the Sahara. Its climate and ecology are intermediate between desert (typical of the Sahara to the north) and the tropical savannah (typical of the regions to the south).... A3-M13/V4735 probably originated somewhere in the central Sahel between 10.24 and 6.02 kya and possibly arrived in eastern Africa after 6.02 kya.

    ...This clade is significantly related to the Nilo-Saharan speaking groups (Mann–Whitney test, p = 2.82 Ă— 10−4), refining previous hypotheses about the association between A3-M13 and the Nilo-Saharan spread from central Sahel to eastern Africa [14, 18].
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moe12 View Post
    Your haplogroup most probably is a result of the trade of Ethiopians captives after the war between Arabs and Abyssinia.
    At the moment, none of the dating seems to reflect this between Horners and SW-Asian A-M13 carriers. This lineage in SW-Asia is mostly just a relic of minor ancient trans-saharan gene-flow from our most recent Green Sahara period during the Holocene (12-5kya).

    One could even argue A-M13 in the horn is significantly vastly SW-Asian >> Horner rather than the other way around.

    TMRCAs for subclades A-Y161004, A-Y92096, A-Y156117 date from 2,400 kya - 4,600kya... so, it's far beyond the Islamic period.


    "In this context, rare Y lineages with a relic geographic distribution can be highly informative regarding human migrations across the Sahara. Thus, considering their frequency distribution, the four trans-Saharan lineages A3-M13, E-M2, E-M78 and R-V88 could represent the remains of the Saharan MSY genetic landscape before the desertification, contrary to the usual interpretation involving recent gene flow events such as the trans-Saharan Arab slave trade [42, 43, 44].", (D’Atanasio, 2018).
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    Quote Originally Posted by NiloSaharan View Post
    At the moment, none of the dating seems to reflect this between Horners and SW-Asian A-M13 carriers. This lineage in SW-Asia is mostly just a relic of minor ancient trans-saharan gene-flow from our most recent Green Sahara period during the Holocene (12-5kya).

    One could even argue A-M13 in the horn is significantly vastly SW-Asian >> Horner rather than the other way around.

    TMRCAs for subclades A-Y161004, A-Y92096, A-Y156117 date from 2,400 kya - 4,600kya... so, it's far beyond the Islamic period.


    "In this context, rare Y lineages with a relic geographic distribution can be highly informative regarding human migrations across the Sahara. Thus, considering their frequency distribution, the four trans-Saharan lineages A3-M13, E-M2, E-M78 and R-V88 could represent the remains of the Saharan MSY genetic landscape before the desertification, contrary to the usual interpretation involving recent gene flow events such as the trans-Saharan Arab slave trade [42, 43, 44].", (D’Atanasio, 2018).
    Yes, even the snp Y30506 not related to horn aftica its age is 9500 year

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