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    FTDNA confirmed E-V12*, however odd result with 23andme SNPs.

    So I ran through my 23andme data through Morley Ydna predictor, and this is the result I got. E-V12* was second likely. What you guys think? What is this E1b1b1a1b5?
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    Balto - North Slavic 22.4%
    Northwest European 18.8%
    Italian Greek 18.1%
    Persian Jewish 9%
    Iberian 6.3%
    Ashkenazi Jewish 5.9%
    Basque 4.3%
    Sephardic Jewish 4.1%
    Balochi Punjab 3.7%
    Caucasus 2.5%
    Urals 1.3%
    Finnish 1.2%
    Lebanese Cypriot 1%
    Other 1.4%

    Sephardic Jewish Turkey 18.8%
    Argyll and Bute Scottish Highlands 18.6%
    Sardinia 18.4%
    Lithuania 15.7%
    Russia Voronezh 7%
    Belgium 5.6%
    Syrian Jewish 4.9%
    Libyan Jewish 4.4%
    Russia Tver 2.4%
    Azerbaijani Jewish 2.2%

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    Thats M35.2, that ISOGG tree seems to be outdated, M35.2 is E1b1b1a1b1a3~
    https://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpE.html

    It's a subbranch of E-V13 with a back mutation.

    E-V12 is a different haplogroup entirely, If FTDNA confirmed you E-V12 (SNP Testing), it's the right one. Morley is what it is, a predictor.

    Oh and btw, V12 is more fit for a jew than v13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurumim View Post
    Thats M35.2, that ISOGG tree seems to be outdated, M35.2 is E1b1b1a1b1a3~
    https://isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpE.html

    It's a subbranch of E-V13 with a back mutation.

    E-V12 is a different haplogroup entirely, If FTDNA confirmed you E-V12 (SNP Testing), it's the right one. Morley is what it is, a predictor.

    Oh and btw, V12 is more fit for a jew than v13
    Right. FTDNA and 23andme confirmed as E-V12*. Impossible to be any branch of V13.
    DNA Tribes

    Balto - North Slavic 22.4%
    Northwest European 18.8%
    Italian Greek 18.1%
    Persian Jewish 9%
    Iberian 6.3%
    Ashkenazi Jewish 5.9%
    Basque 4.3%
    Sephardic Jewish 4.1%
    Balochi Punjab 3.7%
    Caucasus 2.5%
    Urals 1.3%
    Finnish 1.2%
    Lebanese Cypriot 1%
    Other 1.4%

    Sephardic Jewish Turkey 18.8%
    Argyll and Bute Scottish Highlands 18.6%
    Sardinia 18.4%
    Lithuania 15.7%
    Russia Voronezh 7%
    Belgium 5.6%
    Syrian Jewish 4.9%
    Libyan Jewish 4.4%
    Russia Tver 2.4%
    Azerbaijani Jewish 2.2%

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    go with ftdna
    in the mean time e-v12 clusters from e3b haplozone
    http://www.haplozone.net/e3b/project/cluster

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    go with ftdna
    in the mean time e-v12 clusters from e3b haplozone
    http://www.haplozone.net/e3b/project/cluster
    Yes I belong to E-V12-mi. Members in this cluster are confirmed or predicted to be in subclade E1b1b1a1a*, but currently do not match up with a well-defined cluster within this subclade. More clusters may be broken out later, as we get new members and discover new connections.
    DNA Tribes

    Balto - North Slavic 22.4%
    Northwest European 18.8%
    Italian Greek 18.1%
    Persian Jewish 9%
    Iberian 6.3%
    Ashkenazi Jewish 5.9%
    Basque 4.3%
    Sephardic Jewish 4.1%
    Balochi Punjab 3.7%
    Caucasus 2.5%
    Urals 1.3%
    Finnish 1.2%
    Lebanese Cypriot 1%
    Other 1.4%

    Sephardic Jewish Turkey 18.8%
    Argyll and Bute Scottish Highlands 18.6%
    Sardinia 18.4%
    Lithuania 15.7%
    Russia Voronezh 7%
    Belgium 5.6%
    Syrian Jewish 4.9%
    Libyan Jewish 4.4%
    Russia Tver 2.4%
    Azerbaijani Jewish 2.2%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tz85 View Post
    Yes I belong to E-V12-mi. Members in this cluster are confirmed or predicted to be in subclade E1b1b1a1a*, but currently do not match up with a well-defined cluster within this subclade. More clusters may be broken out later, as we get new members and discover new connections.
    thats very cool
    you know i think e-v12 as also a british cluster
    some e-v12 clusters are europeans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tz85 View Post
    So I ran through my 23andme data through Morley Ydna predictor, and this is the result I got. E-V12* was second likely. What you guys think? What is this E1b1b1a1b5?
    interesting result; how accurate is morley y-dna predictor?? andhow can screenshot my predictor the sameway you did?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    thats very cool
    you know i think e-v12 as also a british cluster
    some e-v12 clusters are europeans
    My paternal line is from Muro Lucano, Potenza, Italy. Very old line. Most likely left Egypt and crossed the Mediterranean.
    DNA Tribes

    Balto - North Slavic 22.4%
    Northwest European 18.8%
    Italian Greek 18.1%
    Persian Jewish 9%
    Iberian 6.3%
    Ashkenazi Jewish 5.9%
    Basque 4.3%
    Sephardic Jewish 4.1%
    Balochi Punjab 3.7%
    Caucasus 2.5%
    Urals 1.3%
    Finnish 1.2%
    Lebanese Cypriot 1%
    Other 1.4%

    Sephardic Jewish Turkey 18.8%
    Argyll and Bute Scottish Highlands 18.6%
    Sardinia 18.4%
    Lithuania 15.7%
    Russia Voronezh 7%
    Belgium 5.6%
    Syrian Jewish 4.9%
    Libyan Jewish 4.4%
    Russia Tver 2.4%
    Azerbaijani Jewish 2.2%

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