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Thread: Calling all Eustice DNA Testers (Irish Branch R1a) under R-Z283

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    For completeness I’ll add the latest data here too,
    Yfull had this down as Y128147, most recent common ancestor 750 years
    And this new grouping in on the Yfull tree https://yfull.com/tree/R-Y128147/
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    Yay, you found a subclade and a Big Y match. Congrats.

    YDNA likely journey simplified : Battle Axe Culture > Nordic Bronze Age > Scandinavian Iron Age > Norsemen > Scots > probably Somerled

    Ancestry: English, Scottish & Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by angscoire View Post
    Yay, you found a subclade and a Big Y match. Congrats.
    Thanks, indeed it’s been an interesting journey, with a few surprises along the way, it’s not been cheap, but worth it, and as a bonus we opened a new Branch under Z283.
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    Or was it a branch in western Corded Ware, possibly even arriving with Celtic speakers much later? (as a minority lineage)
    YDNA: R1b-BY50830 Stepney, London, UK George Wood b. 1782 English <-> Bavarian cluster
    maternal-gf YDNA: ?? Gurr, James ~1740, Smarden, Kent, England.
    maternal-gm YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    maternal-ggf YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    paternal-ggf YDNA: R1b-Z17901. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    Or was it a branch in western Corded Ware, possibly even arriving with Celtic speakers much later? (as a minority lineage)
    I have heard that suggested before by someone in the R1a Project, but am sceptical and think it’s more likely it came with the Normans, and originally originating soomewhere where in the Baltic, most of my other top matches appear to be poles, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Russians, Finns etc.
    But of course I could be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgdavies@hotmail.com View Post
    Open letter to all Eustice family who have done DNA tests and are R1a, or its subclades.

    I have done a Y67 STR test with ftdna, and more importantly the "Big Y" cost a fortune but is worth it to find out more info about our Y gene.

    Firstly the Y67 still has me matching 10 members of the Eustice family.

    I also wanted to tell you that your terminal SNP (i.e your haplogroup is confirmed as R-Z283)

    With my Big Y result, I can now confirm that we have a new Novel Branch underneath of R-Z283, this Branch will remain Novel, until sombody else tests with the Big Y.

    As a suggestion, would any existing testers be interested in getting the BigY test done?

    This would be very beneficial to the Eustice family, as currently we all cluster together, and most of the Eustice family would be on this new Branch of the R1a tree, under R-Z283.

    This would further Science, and the R1a tree, also the history of the Eustice family, it should also enable us to get a time of MRCA (Most recent common ancestor)

    Its also definitely worth you joining the ftdna the R1a Project, as there is expert help from the Admins.

    This might eventually shine a light on, if our Eustice line were indeed Normans or Norwegian Vikings or some other group.

    My Best Regards

    Stephen.
    On FamilytreeDNA, R1a Project, my little cluster is taking off, including myself there are showing 3 people now.

    M420>M459>M198>M417>Z645>Z283>BY135739

    B129199 Cuthbert Davies Wales R-BY135739
    548442 Richard Walsh, b. about 1810 Kilkenny, Ireland Ireland R-M198 ( This one is the newest, they are waiting their BigY result)
    IN34463 William John McDonald b. 1834 and d. 1908 Ireland R-BY135739

    548442 Richard Walsh
    As you can see, I was wondering if this was 100% correct or mistake, as we do not seem to be a match on any of the STR markers Y37, Y64, Y111 etc.
    I have been in touch with the kit owner, who will be doing a BigY for her late uncle.
    I am curious to anybodys thoughts on this cluster. thanks.

    I have emailed both Michal and Lukasz the Admins, but no response as yet.
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