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Thread: Salt-Range/Pothwar Raja DNA results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpi786 View Post
    I don't know how do I find out?

    Yes am male.
    Follow the instructions here to find out your y-dna haplogroup: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuterium_1 View Post
    Are Paharis and Koshuris closely related btw?

    If there are any PCI charts or admixture results, that would be helpful.

    The reason I asked is that I saw a debate between Mirpuris and Koshuris on an Instagram page called Brown History. A Koshuri claimed that Mirpuris can't claim to be Kashmiri because they are Pahari speaking.

    I saw a Mirpuri even claim Mughal descent (which I found difficult to believe to be honest) which didn't go down well with some Koshuris because the Mughals are not fondly remembered by some Kashmiris from what I have read. This may provide further evidence of differences between both groups, I could be wrong though.

    It is quite common for British Mirpuris to self-identify as Kashmiris.
    They are not Kashmiris, irrespective of what they call themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpi786 View Post
    I have found the right thread.

    These are my results:

    1 Baloch 40.45
    2 S-Indian 30.00
    3 Caucasian 12.26
    4 NE-Euro 8.20
    5 SW-Asian 3.34
    6 SE-Asian 1.84
    7 Siberian 1.54
    8 Mediterranean 1.12

    My family is from Potowar and Azad Kashmir. In Potowar, Thigri near Islampura Jabbar and AJK is Dingwar (some from chuthroh).

    Our side of the family call themselves Rajput Chauhan however other side call themselves Choudry Jatt (we share the same ancestor).

    I'm guessing my results are typical of this area?

    Also, what do they mean about say our ancestors where were they from?
    Welcome to the forum. My family (Janjua) is also from Pothwar.
    Your results are similar to an other Chohan member here from Chakwal. Doesn't really match the Jatts.
    What company did you test with and did you get tested for maternal mitochondrial or paternal Y Haplogroups?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thejkhan View Post
    Follow the instructions here to find out your y-dna haplogroup: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal
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    Well that is what I get. What does it mean..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    Welcome to the forum. My family (Janjua) is also from Pothwar.
    Your results are similar to an other Chohan member here from Chakwal. Doesn't really match the Jatts.
    What company did you test with and did you get tested for maternal mitochondrial or paternal Y Haplogroups?

    Hello, ancestrydna and no I dont think they tested for that. Yeah, we have a family tree one part of the family who call themself jatt and ours (who call themself rajput) had the same ancestor.

    Also I heard Jatt was more of a tribe and Rajput was a title conferred onto people? Would make sense as alot of people in our family served in the military over the generations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpi786 View Post
    ydna.png

    Well that is what I get. What does it mean..
    Unless I am mistaken, it is suggesting you are L1a (this can be further split into L1a1 or L1a2). L1a1 is quite common in Potohar/AJK regions among Rajputs and Gujjars I believe. L1a2 is more common in Central/East Punjab.
    Last edited by Sapporo; 06-12-2021 at 11:19 PM.
    pegasus modeling:
    sample": "Punjabi_Jat:Sapporo_AGUser",
    "fit": 1.1506,
    "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3": 43.33,
    "TKM_Gonur1_BA": 31.67,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 25,
    "closestDistances": [

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    Unless I am mistaken, it is suggesting you are L1a (this can be further split into L1a1 or L1a2). L1a1 is quite common in Potohar/AJK regions among Rajputs and Gujjars I believe. L1a2 is more common in Central/East Punjab.
    L1a in morleydna tree is L1a1, L1c is L1a2. So he's L1a1 for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpi786 View Post
    ydna.png

    Well that is what I get. What does it mean..
    It means your y-dna haplogroup is L-M27.

    You belong in this tree: https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-M27/

    You can do further testing to narrow down to a younger subclade of L-M27.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    Unless I am mistaken, it is suggesting you are L1a (this can be further split into L1a1 or L1a2). L1a1 is quite common in Potohar/AJK regions among Rajputs and Gujjars I believe. L1a2 is more common in Central/East Punjab.
    Looking on YFull, L656 is classified as L (not a downstream subclade) so this is clearly a flaw in the tree MorleyDNA used for these results and can be effectively ignored given the other positives under L you clearly have. As @thejkhan mentioned, you come under L-M27 (L1a1 by current ISOGG nomenclature).

    EDIT: I don't know why I replied to @Sapporo here. Sorry for that
    Last edited by aaronbee2010; 06-13-2021 at 10:35 PM.
    YFull: YF72440 (FTDNA - IN41220)

    Ancestral Haplos (Punjabi Jatt):
    * Father: R2-M479 > M124 > V1180 > SK2142 > Y1379 > Y1383 > Y154920* (xZ6135) - M5a1a-G9064A (185G)
    * Maternal Uncle: R1b-M343 > M269 > Z2103 > Z2109 > Y14416 > Y35099 > Y84821 - U7a3a-A9852G > G6150A > C15433T
    * MGMs MGF: R1a-M420 > M198 > Z93 > L657 > Y7 - ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    Unless I am mistaken, it is suggesting you are L1a (this can be further split into L1a1 or L1a2). L1a1 is quite common in Potohar/AJK regions among Rajputs and Gujjars I believe. L1a2 is more common in Central/East Punjab.
    ok just did some research only 4% of pakistani punjabis have it lool. It was most common with jats at 36.8.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_..._of_South_Asia

    Right, one of our elders said that we had an ancestor from Rajasthan (like 8 generations ago so say 200 years). Do my dna results show this?

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