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    I tried to upload my 23andMe Raw Data to FTDNA but it would not take the upload maybe because it is V5 Chip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    Anybody belong to this haplogroup? I do and I am Filipino.
    Wow - you are the equivalent of a rare Pokemon

    The descendants (or siblings if we you're a subclade of P) of your clade are probably the most successful (geographically) y-dna groups on the planet, Europe, Siberia, Central Asia, the Americas, parts of Africa and South Asia

    What is your ethnic group?
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    Filipino about 98% I think. With minute percentage of S. Indian and European.

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    On 23andMe...i show higher percentages in GEDmatch ,DNA.land, Geneplaza etc but no more than 8%. I show Baltic, Balkan, East Euro ,no Iberian and also African East. ..my Maternal is M7C1C3

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    Filipino about 98% I think. With minute percentage of S. Indian and European.
    No we mean within Philippines...what island groups, what ethnicities (like indigenous if applicable) etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    Ok, didn't know it's that unusual.There are no studies that I see on when searching the web so I thought if isn't that special.I msg ISSOG.ORG because it zeems they are doing a study of it.And all the guy said was it's rare in Europeans etc etc so I figured Another Euro Centric Study, lol . He didn't seem impressed I have the P ydna
    Basically P is the parent of Haplogroup Q and R. There's some debate that P (or more specifically it's parent K) originated in SE Asia before undergoing rapid expansion/diversification, the implications for that is that in country like Ireland where R1b makes up 90% of male population that ultimately all of them can trace their ancestral path all way back to SE Asia (on order of 20-30k years ago), which is cool if ye ask me and something I remind my filipina other half all the time

    Here is a paper from 2014 talking about the updating of the tree based on new evidence:

    Improved phylogenetic resolution and rapid diversification of Y-chromosome haplogroup K-M526 in Southeast Asia.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg2014106

    K-M526 is parent branch to Haplogroup P (and thus Q and R), Haplogroup M and Haplogroup S.

    They had a sample of 25 Aeta and 25 Filipinos in their dataset. When it came to P295* it came back as 28%, they didn't show it in their Filipino cohort, but 25 people is way too small a sample set for the Philippines given the population there is just over 100 million today.
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    Visayan, Cebu and my father is from Negros

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    I will think about it. What is FGC?

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    You can choose FTDNA Big Y or FGC, a very interesting test because you will be the first member of a new P branch at YFull

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    Visayan, Cebu and my father is from Negros
    I read that an Aeta related group the Ati live on the Negros and have been living there for 30000 years (a figure based on a possible land connection then).
    Any potential connection?

    “Aeta,” “Ayta,” “Ita,” and “Ati”
    "They were believed to be the first settlers or aborigines of the Philippines, who were later driven away to the mountains and hinterlands by later migrants ... Another Visayan island, Negros, is so named because in the remote past the Aeta were numerous in the island. But Negros at present has a scant Aeta population confined to the extreme northern and southern portions of the island ...
    Onetheory suggests that the Aeta are the descendants of the original inhabitants of the
    Philippines who arrived through land bridges that linked the country with the Asian
    mainland some 30,000 years ago. These migrations may have occurred when the Malay
    peninsula was still connected with Sumatra and other Sunda Islands. At that time, the
    islands of what is now the Philippines may have been connected, making probable the
    dispersal of the Aeta throughout what is now an archipelago. Bellwood (1978:26-27)
    described the Aeta as an Australoid people ... more closely related to the AsiaPacific
    groups than to the African group. It is also interesting to note that the Luzon
    Aeta and Mamanwa have different origins in terms of migration to the Philippines."
    http://nlpdl.nlp.gov.ph:81/CC01/NLP00VM052mcd/v1/v1.pdf
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