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    Haplogroup from Nat Geo Helix for FTDNA SNP Pack?

    I was wondering if anyone has had success with purchasing a specific SNP pack from Family Tree DNA for a haplogroup assignment from Nat Geo? I have not done any testing with FTDNA, I did the Nat Geo test with the intention of transfering, not realizing the Helix version will not transfer. I was asssigned to R1b-DF21 through Nat Geo. I'm wondering if I could purchase the SNP pack for DF21 to go further. I just don't want to spend more money than necessary. I've tried to scan thought the raw dna files from Nat Geo but I don't have the skills. Any help would be appreciated.

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    As far as I am aware, FTDNA will not allow you to purchase any SNP packs unless you have done one of their introductory Y-STR tests first, although I'm willing to be corrected if I am wrong.

    A good alternative to FTDNA is YSEQ. They offer a R1b-DF21 panel here https://www.yseq.net/product_info.ph...703519ed2e2eb6

    I'm not part of the R1b project so not sure how comprehensive this panel is, but my interactions with YSEQ have been very good and I highly recommend them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rik Harper View Post
    I was wondering if anyone has had success with purchasing a specific SNP pack from Family Tree DNA for a haplogroup assignment from Nat Geo? I have not done any testing with FTDNA, I did the Nat Geo test with the intention of transfering, not realizing the Helix version will not transfer. I was asssigned to R1b-DF21 through Nat Geo. I'm wondering if I could purchase the SNP pack for DF21 to go further. I just don't want to spend more money than necessary. I've tried to scan thought the raw dna files from Nat Geo but I don't have the skills. Any help would be appreciated.
    I've had a surname project member go through the YSEQ DF21 panel and the lab performance was very good as it always is, so that would be my recommendation. There are no prerequisite tests, provided you know you are DF21+.
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    Thanks for the advice. I purchased the DF21 pack from YSeq. They were confident that would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    As far as I am aware, FTDNA will not allow you to purchase any SNP packs unless you have done one of their introductory Y-STR tests first, although I'm willing to be corrected if I am wrong.

    A good alternative to FTDNA is YSEQ. They offer a R1b-DF21 panel here https://www.yseq.net/product_info.ph...703519ed2e2eb6

    I'm not part of the R1b project so not sure how comprehensive this panel is, but my interactions with YSEQ have been very good and I highly recommend them.
    they allow SNP packs without STR for Geno 2.0 and Geno 2.0 NG transfers (of course Geno 2.0 NG non-Helix does not transfer). Technically, simply telling them Helix assignment should be more than enough to let you take a SNP pack, but they don't seem to do stuff like that.

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    I went to YSeq and I got my first results today. I'm wondering if anyone could help me interpret these or direct me to someone who can. I would appreciate any help, I'm new to this.

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    S971 processing
    S5488 T+
    FGC3903 C-
    FGC3213 A-
    DF5 A-
    S7200 processing
    L1336 processing
    Z16294 processing

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    In the first round of the DF21 panel five SNPs are tested: FGC3213, DF5, S5488, S971, Z3004. Most of them span multiple branches just below DF21 and a few are well populated deeper branches. You tested positive for the mutation S5488, a mutation just below DF21 . While S971 is still processing, it will most certainly be negative as it is a parallel branch to S5488. The other ones that are processing are branches below S5488. It is quite possible that one of them will be positive. This process will iterate down the branches depending on further positive results. (see also http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=6143).
     
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    Paternal mtDNA: U5a2c4, MDKA: Maria de Baur, d 1761, Sittard, NL
    Paternal grandmother Y-DNA: R-U106>Z18>S17721+, MDKA: Adriaan Petri Brouwers, Oosterhout, NL
    Maternal Y-DNA: R-U152>Y22447+, MDKA: Göttgens, confirmed NPE (FGC: X5ZNK)
    Maternal mtDNA: H3-T152C!, MDKA: Helena Cuijpers, d. 1778 Spaubeek, NL
    Maternal grandmother Y-DNA: I-M253>Z74

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    Thanks for the help. That makes sense. I guess I was making it more complicated than it was.

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