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    Hi, I'm considering getting either Y-37 from FTDNA or the E superclade panel from Yseq. Which one would you choose? They are both in the $100 range.

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    It all depends on what you’re looking for. If you would like to get a more refined reading of where you are on the E haplotree, than I would go with YSEQ. If you’re more interested in seeing who your STR matches are, than I would go with Family Tree. What are you’re hoping to learn and if I may ask, how did you find out you were E1b1b?
    Paper Trail: 43.8% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Yseq can be better value than FTDNA when it comes to the straight up monetary cost, but I like the project aspect of FTDNA and the big Y test is pretty cool and informative if you ever wish to go down that route. There is really good discounts many times throughout the year, and they keep your spit file around so you can easily upgrade.

    I don't know too much about Turnaround for YSEQ since I did everything at FTDNA, but my big Y results were predicted for February, I received them beginning of December, .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    It all depends on what you’re looking for. If you would like to get a more refined reading of where you are on the E haplotree, than I would go with YSEQ. If you’re more interested in seeing who your STR matches are, than I would go with Family Tree. What are you’re hoping to learn and if I may ask, how did you find out you were E1b1b?
    I tested with Myheritage and then I used the Morley predictor, which assigned me E-M81.

    I don't think I will get many matches so maybe I will go with Yseq and then I will do my own research once I have the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibericus View Post
    I tested with Myheritage and then I used the Morley predictor, which assigned me E-M81.

    I don't think I will get many matches so maybe I will go with Yseq and then I will do my own research once I have the results.
    Sounds like a reasonable plan. Good luck!
    Paper Trail: 43.8% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    I would go with Y67, then use NEVGEN which predicts around 50 % of testers with high accuracy. With Y67 in hand, you can determine your matches and usually can predict 80 % of all testers via empirical YSNP prediction. You can also put your matches into an EXCEL spreadsheet, copy and paste into the SAPP input format which will produce a chart of how all your matches are related to each other. Haplogroup E is much less tested that Haplogroup R, so the above percentages may be somewhat lower. If you want to put minimal costs into testing but are willing to spend time, there is enough Big Y testing going on these days that many may not need any FGS or WGS test to find out how they are related to others. Y111 upgrade are good if a lot of your matches are at Y111. However, in five to ten years, Y500, Y700 and Y1500 YSTRs will reveal more than the YSNP testing will which is now reaching its limit of usefulness for 10 to 20 % of all YDNA testers (it probably has more mileage under Haplogroup E which is less tested to date).

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    If you decide for FTDNA make sure you join the E-M35 project, I'm there myself and find it quite good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Searcher View Post
    I got my autosomal testing done at 23andme and I want to find out my SNPs and real mtDNA. Is this the way to go? It seems cheaper but it might be missing important things.
    For Y-DNA and mtDNA together, you would be best off with Dante Labs x30 WGS on offer ($170 with multiple discounts on the last Black Friday and free shipping), as you get Y-DNA and mtDNA sequencing data, as well as the ability to generated enhanced autosomal data with WGS Extract, which can be used for GEDmatch/Admixture Studio and Global 25, which is much better for both than 23andMe v5.

    If you want a cheap option without waiting for offer periods, YSEQ's H-L901 SNP pack and mtComplete services together is your best bet outside of offer times ($233 together w/ free shipping), however I would recommend waiting, if you can. You could pay $14 more for mtDNA sequencing from FTDNA if you really wanted access to their mtDNA matching database but YSEQ's Y-SNP pack is my recommendation for getting an accurate subclade results outside of WGS.

    One of YSEQ's owners has stated on Facebook that they're working on the currently expensive prices of YSEQ WGS, so that could be something to keep your eyes peeled for. I'm personally looking forward to seeing how things go here, as YSEQ is a fantastic company that has a very strong reputation for being quick, helpful and relatively head-ache free, especially compared to Dante.

    If you really wanted FTDNA matching, you can order a Y12 from FTDNA later down the line and upgrade to Y37, or just go straight to Y37. There are not that much South Asians on their database compared to Europeans, so the most I would recommend in terms of STR's from them is Y37. I don't have any Y25+ matches on there but common SA lineages like R1a and H should have more people in their database.
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    * Father: R2-SK2142 > Y183118 - M5a1a
    * Maternal Uncle: R1b-Z2103 > Y84821 - U7a3a
    * MGMs F (?): L-M22 > M357 - ?
    * PGMs F (?): Q-F1096 > F4747 - ?
    * MGMs MGF (?): R1a-Z93 > Y7 - ?

    Friends Haplos:
    * North Moroccan Berber: E-M35 > M81 - R0
    * Han Chinese: O-M117 > F1531 - M7e
    * Gujarati Lohana (?): T-Y11151 > Y13290 - R30b1

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