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    Question Multiple results = Dr. Doug Mcdonald, DNA Tribes, GPS Origins. What AM I?

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    What would you say is my in depth ancestry based on these different results?




    MyHeritage


    Europe
    99.2%
    North and West Europe
    99.2%
    Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
    93.5%
    English
    4.8%
    Finnish
    0.9%
    Asia
    0.8%
    East Asia
    0.8%
    Eskimo/Inuit
    0.8%


    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Turkmen at 1.98
    2 96.3% West_Scottish + 3.7% Lebanese_Druze at 2
    3 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Iranian_Jewish at 2.01
    4 95.9% West_Scottish + 4.1% Azeri at 2.03
    5 96.2% West_Scottish + 3.8% Iranian at 2.05
    6 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Kurdish_Jewish at 2.06
    7 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% Turkish at 2.06
    8 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Assyrian at 2.06
    9 96.2% West_Scottish + 3.8% Kurdish at 2.08
    10 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Georgian_Jewish at 2.11
    11 96.2% West_Scottish + 3.8% Lebanese_Muslim at 2.12
    12 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Armenian at 2.12
    13 96.6% West_Scottish + 3.4% Lebanese_Christian at 2.13
    14 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Palestinian at 2.15
    15 96.3% West_Scottish + 3.7% Syrian at 2.16
    16 95.8% West_Scottish + 4.2% Afghan_Turkmen at 2.16
    17 96.4% West_Scottish + 3.6% Jordanian at 2.17
    18 96.6% West_Scottish + 3.4% Samaritan at 2.19
    19 96.3% West_Scottish + 3.7% Cyprian at 2.2
    20 95.6% West_Scottish + 4.4% Nogay at 2.21


    World9 Oracle results:




    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81.6% Polish (Dodecad) + 18.4% TSI30 (Metspalu) at 0.66
    2 82% Polish (Dodecad) + 18% Tuscan (HGDP) at 0.68
    3 65.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 34.6% French (HGDP) at 0.7
    4 59.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 40.6% Polish (Dodecad) at 0.73
    5 68.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 31.3% French (Dodecad) at 0.77
    6 84.4% Polish (Dodecad) + 15.6% C_Italian (Dodecad) at 0.77
    7 66.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 33.7% Tuscan (HGDP) at 0.78
    8 65.7% Lithuanian (Dodecad) + 34.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) at 0.78
    9 71.7% Belorussian (Behar) + 28.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) at 0.79
    10 77.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.8% Lithuanian (Dodecad) at 0.79
    11 67.5% Swedish (Dodecad) + 32.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) at 0.81
    12 85.8% Swedish (Dodecad) + 14.2% Cypriots (Behar) at 0.81
    13 83.2% Polish (Dodecad) + 16.8% O_Italian (Dodecad) at 0.84
    14 72.9% Belorussian (Behar) + 27.1% North_Italian (HGDP) at 0.84
    15 89.2% Polish (Dodecad) + 10.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) at 0.84
    16 68.7% Swedish (Dodecad) + 31.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) at 0.85
    17 88.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 11.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) at 0.86
    18 88.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 11.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) at 0.87
    19 77.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 22.6% Lithuanians at 0.87
    20 69.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 30.7% Swedish (Dodecad) at 0.87


    DNA Tribes


    Continental Core Mixture
    European 88.8%
    North African and Middle Eastern 6%
    South Asian 3.3%
    Amerindian 1%
    Siberian 0.9%




    Regional Cluster Mixture
    Northwest European 50.9%
    Iberian 20%
    Balto - North Slavic 7.1%
    Finnish 5.8%
    Italian Greek 4.4%
    Tajik Pashtun 3.9%
    Basque 2.6%
    Northern Amerindian 4.6%
    Other 0.7%


    GPS Origins /Home. DNA


    #1 Southern France 20%
    Origin: Peaks in south France and declines in north France, England, Orkney islands, and Scandinavia


    #2 Fennoscandia 19.3%
    Origin: Peaks in the Iceland and Norway and declines in Finland, England, and France


    #3 Orkney Islands 14.4%
    Origin: Peaks in the Orkney islands and declines in England, France, Germany, Belarus, and Poland


    #4 Western Siberia 13.6%
    Origin: Peaks in Krasnoyarsk Krai and declines towards east Russia


    #5 Southeastern India 8.5%
    Origin: Endemic to south eastern india with residues in Pakistan


    #6 Basque Country 6.9%
    Origin: Peaks in France and Spain Basque regions and declines in Spain, France, and Germany


    #7 Sardinia 6.8%
    Origin: Peaks in Sardinia and declines in weaker in Italy, Greece, Albania, and The Balkans


    #8 Western South America 5.2%
    Origin: Peaks in Peru, Mexico, and North America and declines in Eastern Russia


    #9 Northern India 3.6%
    Origin: Peaks in North India (Dharkars, Kanjars) and declines in Pakistan


    #10 Tuva 0.9%
    Origin: Peaks in south Siberia (Russians: Tuvinian) and declines in North Mongolia


    #11 Northwestern Africa 0.6%
    Origin: Peaks in Algeria and declines in Morocco and Tunisia


    Dr. Doug McDonald


    "The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
    most likely at the top
    Irish= 0.753 Romania= 0.247 or
    Irish= 0.838 Tuscan= 0.162 or
    Irish= 0.879 Sicily= 0.121 or
    Poland= 0.689 Romania= 0.311 or
    Poland= 0.419 Hungary= 0.581 or
    Irish= 0.498 Hungary= 0.502 or
    Lithuania= 0.538 Romania= 0.462 or
    English= 0.937 Chuvash= 0.063 or
    Lithuania= 0.274 Hungary= 0.726 or
    Poland= 0.789 Tuscan= 0.211
    Second most likely fit is 89.5% (+- 2.2%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 10.5% (+- 2.2%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

    The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
    most likely at the top
    Irish= 0.907 Armenian= 0.093 or
    Irish= 0.918 Druze= 0.082 or
    Irish= 0.903 Cypriot= 0.097 or
    Irish= 0.886 Jewish= 0.114 or
    Irish= 0.897 Sephardic= 0.103 or
    Irish= 0.902 Georgian= 0.098 or
    Poland= 0.849 Jewish= 0.151 or
    Irish= 0.927 Palestinia= 0.073 or
    Poland= 0.864 Sephardic= 0.136 or
    Irish= 0.900 Turkish= 0.100

    The green Native American spot on the chromosomes is strong."

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    I guess my main question, does anyone look at this and think it strongly implies Jewish ancestry?
    I know there is some middle east admixture in my lineage, but zero ancestry for Poland/Romany/Hungary

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    Askye,

    Are you on Gedmatch? I am assuming so since you have Euro K13 there. Go do the Eurogenes k36 test and enter those values into Tolan's population similarity map maker here: http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude2.htm I consider it pretty accurate (apparently very accurate for native Europeans from the results I've seen) as far telling you where a majority of your ancestors come from (in conjunction with your known paper trail and extended cousin match list if you tested family finder at FTDNA or something like that). For instance my map looks like this and is very accurate for my recent autosomal (last 5-10 gens?) admixture (my Mother has 2nd cousins from Ireland and Northern Ireland and 2nd/3rd from Scottish Highlands often via Nova Scotia/Ontario for instance)... it seems to be very accurate for Europeans... and I've noticed that the more mixed you are if you are American (for instance my wife has both Northern European and SE European ancestry) you may score lower in the matching values on the map if that makes sense? 21148392_1423353344368548_815091244_n.png
    Last edited by Bollox79; 12-17-2017 at 08:54 PM.
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Johann Adam Weber/Weaver born 1784 in Pennsylvania. Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004... FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3 - one of the "Headless" Roman Gladiator/Soldiers! Father Captain Martin Weber b. 1739 in Hesse(?), Germany, d. 1804 Dauphin, PA.

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget O'Danagher b. 1843 Lorrha/Dorrha, Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b.

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    My wife gets 4th-5th cousins from Finland and Norway/Sweden and Scotland per her mother's side, but also has a lot of Slavic and SE German and Italian ancestry - so her top areas are Austria, Hungary, Serbia, Bosnia... so overall SE European genetics-wise though with lesser values here is her map - like I said use this type of map along with your paper trail and extend cousin list if you have one... if your admixture is recent enough you will have foreign cousins ;-). map.png
    Last edited by Bollox79; 12-17-2017 at 08:52 PM.
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Johann Adam Weber/Weaver born 1784 in Pennsylvania. Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004... FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3 - one of the "Headless" Roman Gladiator/Soldiers! Father Captain Martin Weber b. 1739 in Hesse(?), Germany, d. 1804 Dauphin, PA.

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget O'Danagher b. 1843 Lorrha/Dorrha, Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollox79 View Post
    Askye,

    Are you on Gedmatch? I am assuming so since you have Euro K13 there. Go do the Eurogenes k36 test and enter those values into Tolan's population similarity map maker here: http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude2.htm I consider it pretty accurate (apparently very accurate for native Europeans from the results I've seen) as far telling you where a majority of your ancestors come from (in conjunction with your known paper trail and extended cousin match list if you tested family finder at FTDNA or something like that). For instance my map looks like this and is very accurate for my recent autosomal (last 5-10 gens?) admixture (my Mother has 2nd cousins from Ireland and Northern Ireland and 2nd/3rd from Scottish Highlands often via Nova Scotia/Ontario for instance)... it seems to be very accurate for Europeans... and I've noticed that the more mixed you are if you are American (for instance my wife has both Northern European and SE European ancestry) you may score lower in the matching values on the map if that makes sense? 21148392_1423353344368548_815091244_n.png
    Quote Originally Posted by Bollox79 View Post
    My wife gets 4th-5th cousins from Finland and Norway/Sweden and Scotland per her mother's side, but also has a lot of Slavic and SE German and Italian ancestry - so her top areas are Austria, Hungary, Serbia, Bosnia... so overall SE European genetics-wise though with lesser values here is her map - like I said use this type of map along with your paper trail and extend cousin list if you have one... if your admixture is recent enough you will have foreign cousins ;-). map.png

    I'm so glad you posted that link!
    I forgot to bookmark it and have been searching endlessly for it ever since.
    Do you know off chance what % is significant enough when you remove your main population source?

    On Geni, I get people from Sweden/Finland as top matches.
    On FTDNA, I have 2900 matches, so have only gone through a few.
    4th-5th cousins.
    Yet, my family has mainly been in the US since late 1600s/early 1700s save for 3 ggrandparents. (One from Northern Scotland, other two from Donegal)
    Last edited by Askye; 12-17-2017 at 09:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Askye View Post

    Dr. Doug McDonald


    "The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
    most likely at the top
    Irish= 0.753 Romania= 0.247 or
    Irish= 0.838 Tuscan= 0.162 or
    Irish= 0.879 Sicily= 0.121 or
    Poland= 0.689 Romania= 0.311 or
    Poland= 0.419 Hungary= 0.581 or
    Irish= 0.498 Hungary= 0.502 or
    Lithuania= 0.538 Romania= 0.462 or
    English= 0.937 Chuvash= 0.063 or
    Lithuania= 0.274 Hungary= 0.726 or
    Poland= 0.789 Tuscan= 0.211
    Second most likely fit is 89.5% (+- 2.2%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 10.5% (+- 2.2%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

    The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
    most likely at the top
    Irish= 0.907 Armenian= 0.093 or
    Irish= 0.918 Druze= 0.082 or
    Irish= 0.903 Cypriot= 0.097 or
    Irish= 0.886 Jewish= 0.114 or
    Irish= 0.897 Sephardic= 0.103 or
    Irish= 0.902 Georgian= 0.098 or
    Poland= 0.849 Jewish= 0.151 or
    Irish= 0.927 Palestinia= 0.073 or
    Poland= 0.864 Sephardic= 0.136 or
    Irish= 0.900 Turkish= 0.100

    The green Native American spot on the chromosomes is strong."
    When did Dr. Doug McDonald analyze your autosomal DNA?

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    Same day reply, two weeks ago.
    I put my query about confirming NA in the subject line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollox79 View Post
    My wife gets 4th-5th cousins from Finland and Norway/Sweden and Scotland per her mother's side, but also has a lot of Slavic and SE German and Italian ancestry - so her top areas are Austria, Hungary, Serbia, Bosnia... so overall SE European genetics-wise though with lesser values here is her map - like I said use this type of map along with your paper trail and extend cousin list if you have one... if your admixture is recent enough you will have foreign cousins ;-). map.png
    Highest number for SE England, Northern Scotland, Wales, Belgium, NL. If I remove England, the numbers dip from 80s to 30s for those regions.
    My highest number is then 46 and is a tad north of Liechtenstein, in Baden-Württemberg perhaps.
    If I remove Belgium or NL then my 3rd highest number becomes 43 at this location:
    "Nenetskiy Gosudarstvennyy Prirodnyy Zapovednik" A nature preserve area in Russia?
    Erm?
    And perhaps even stranger, when I remove Wales, everything drops to 20s/30s across all of Europe and the Americas the board, except for Belgium and the Baden-Württemberg location which are both 42.

    Also, it doesn't which European Country I remove from the plot, the numbers for the Americas hover around 20-30.
    Removing the Spanish/German/English should lower that admixture amount, right ?
    What am I seeing if the number stays around 20-30?
    Native?
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    Do you see Native Am show up above at least 1% consistently on different calculators?

    From what it looks like on your original post, you tested at multiple companies?

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