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    Is anyone familiar with R1a1a1b1a1b1~2 - L1029 - L388?

    Is anyone familiar with R1a1a1b1a1b1~2 - L1029 - L388?


    Only one thing came up in Google search. Supposedly a rare private SNP. I just ran my AncestryDNA into morely ydna predictor, so Idk how accurate this usually is. Currently testing Full Genomes, and no call for M458 with LivingDNA, and predicted M458 - YP515 on R1a Project.

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    The standard position for L388 on the haplotree is on the same level as L389, in the R1b haplogroup. However, L388 recurs in several other places on the tree, including within R-YP263.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    The standard position for L388 on the haplotree is on the same level as L389, in the R1b haplogroup. However, L388 recurs in several other places on the tree, including within R-YP263.
    So what does it mean? are the countries in the link the most common places the mutation is found?

    Judging by the distribution of these downstream mutations and their modern representations I would say Varangian no?(considering I am from the Balkans) Gothic?
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    Is AncestryDNA morely predictor usually accurate? Many of my matches from Germany and northern Europe are L1029. but it seems I match them at the Y12 level. So, Idk if that means I may not be L1029.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    So what does it mean? are the countries in the link the most common places the mutation is found?

    Judging by the distribution of these downstream mutations and their modern representations I would say Varangian no?(considering I am from the Balkans) Gothic?
    Genetic mutations are random in nature. When two individuals have a set of matching SNP markers, that means one of two things: their common ancestor had the mutation, and passed it on to his descendants, or the mutation arose independently in both cases.

    It appears that this L388 sample arose independently from the R1b-L389 group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Is anyone familiar with R1a1a1b1a1b1~2 - L1029 - L388?


    Only one thing came up in Google search. Supposedly a rare private SNP. I just ran my AncestryDNA into morely ydna predictor, so Idk how accurate this usually is. Currently testing Full Genomes, and no call for M458 with LivingDNA, and predicted M458 - YP515 on R1a Project.
    I ran my father's atDNA test from ancestry thru Morley and got L1029. In his YSTR37 on FTDNA they placed him almost certainly at CTS11129 . He is from Brandenburg/Silesia area (now Poland), and does have Slavic facial features (cheekbones). He doesn't match anyone on FTDNA at YSTR37, but a lot on STR12 markers(which I think is meaningless!!). I notices your BigY did not place you at present part L1029 (that's what I expected with my father). tested my husband on Big Y at he is R1b ..I thought he'd get further down the tree but no matches on YSTR67, YSTR111 or BigY at any level and only placed fairly high up in the tree. The Morley predictor for him basically just said... "Are you sure you have got this right?" and they couldn't place him at all on the R1B project even with Y111 markers. I much prefer the R1a grouping! anyway for my Dad the Morley predictor seems reasonable.

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    I ran mine through Morley and got L1029 as well...my first male-line ancestor born in America was John Sellers, born in 1864 in the city of Chicago, with both his parents (listed on the US Census records 1910; my great-grandfather was 17 at the time) listed as having been born in Germany. He was my great-great-grandfather, in the male line. On Wegene they tested me as being YP 445, a subclade of L1029. According to some research I have done on some genealogical websites, John's dad may have been a Joseph Sellers, born in 1836 in Wurttemberg, Germany, who came to America in 1860 and settled in Chicago. I'm thinking perhaps, as YP 445's parent YP 444 arose in Germany between the Elbe and Oder rivers, it was picked up by the Suevi when they were there and taken down to Swabia, which is basically coterminous with Wurttemberg except for a small part belonging to Bavaria.

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