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    what kind of critter is this do you think?

    My cousin posted this pic from one of the trail cams he has set up near his property, in the bush next to his home, which is on the outskirts of my Northern Ontario city...he is a pretty good hunter and general outdoorsman, for what ever its worth

    in any case, he posted this pic he took last week of either....
    1-a wolf,
    2-a coyote
    3-wolf/coyote halfbreed

    so my question is: which type do you think this is?

    Wolf coyotte halfbreeed.jpg

    now, when I named the pic, I labeled it a 'halfbreed' but you should not let that bias you, I did it so I would be able to find the pic to post here easier amongst my thousands of pics, and not due to inside info

    I should also tell you, we have had confirmed sightings of all 3 in my area and its the perfect country for them to survive...basically, my city sits isolated in the monster northern ontario Boreal Forest with about 793 kajillion tree's around us, tons of game/water and nice poachable pets/garbage on the edge of the city

    finally, I know from some pics he posted before, he had a small family of coyotes that he often took some snaps of, so the critter might be one of his 'regulars'

    personally, I would vote for wolf, it just has a more solid bigger look to him although I have seen some pics of other coyotes locally that sure looked wolvish

    I did send my cuz a question about the critter, if he responds I will tell you

    anyway, it will be fun to see what folks think

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    Young wolf or large adult winter-coat coyote. Those winter coats make them look a lot bigger/thicker and it's harder to tell the difference ... for me, anyway.
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    That picture gave me chills. It looks so similar to a critter I saw when I was 4 or 5 years old. I was outside, walking around the corner of my house, and saw it standing about 20 feet in front of me. I froze unsure of what to do, then blanked out. The next thing I knew I was spinning around to watch it, now 50-75 feet behind me, running up the street. I had no idea how it got from point A to point B, the passage on the side of my house was very narrow, so all I could think of was it went 'through' the house. Not like in through the back-door out through the front-door, but like phased through ghosty style. Obviously nobody believed a 4 or 5 year old saying a coyote ran through their house.
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    Coyote

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    so, my cousin responded to my question, and he believes its a wolf. It clearly was not one of the coyote family that he is very familiar with on his property.

    He responded to me today...."Yes it is a wolf. I was surprised to see this guy on the camera usually it's only the coyotes. As far as I can tell I think it might be an Algonquin Wolf (or Eastern Wolf)."

    so, there it is

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    Coywolf. It's a thing.

    From Detroit Free Press:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...brid/24186739/
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