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    Gujarati Muslim Results

    Have a friend who tested on 23andme - v4.

    Interesting results, assumed they'd be similar to other Gujarati results, but he seems more W/SW Asian shifted than I expected, across various calculators.

    He's from Bharuch, an ancient port city, but doesn't have any particular caste background of note, nor any specific documented family history.

    Any input would be appreciated.

    Are his results similar to other Gujarati Muslims?

    Only ones I've come across are on harappaworld, and even they score differently to the most West Asian shifted Gujaratis eg Gujarati A. Wouldn't surprise me if he did have some Iranian / Arab ancestry at some point. Or is he just particularly Sindhi shifted plus something else?

    Harappa
    Code:
    #	Population	Percent
    1	S-Indian	35.44
    2	Baloch	33.35
    3	Caucasian	14.27
    4	SW-Asian	5.92
    5	NE-Euro	4.46
    6	Mediterranean	2.98
    7	Siberian	1.83
    8	Pygmy	0.52
    9	American	0.45
    10	NE-Asian	0.33
    11	Beringian	0.33
    12	Papuan	0.1
    13	E-African	0.01
    Code:
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	gujarati-muslim (harappa)	5.18
    2	up-muslim (harappa)	6.42
    3	punjabi (harappa)	8.69
    4	punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa)	8.96
    5	kashmiri (harappa)	9
    6	cochin-jew (behar)	9.42
    7	kashmiri-pandit (reich)	9.53
    8	bene-israel-jew (behar)	10.04
    9	kashmiri-pahari (harappa)	10.36
    10	punjabi-brahmin (harappa)	10.69
    11	singapore-indian-c (sgvp)	10.81
    12	punjabi-khatri (harappa)	10.86
    13	punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa)	11.06
    14	bihari-muslim (harappa)	11.9
    15	sindhi (harappa)	12
    16	punjabi-arain (xing)	12.44
    17	up-brahmin (harappa)	12.49
    18	bengali-brahmin (harappa)	12.82
    19	punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa)	12.9
    20	nepalese-a (xing)	13.4
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	78.2%	meghawal (reich)	+	21.8%	iraq-jew (behar)	@	1.58
    2	 	77.5%	meghawal (reich)	+	22.5%	iraqi-mandaean (harappa)	@	1.64
    3	 	78%	meghawal (reich)	+	22%	iranian-jew (behar)	@	1.68
    4	 	74.2%	tn-brahmin (xing)	+	25.8%	iraqi-arab (harappa)	@	1.88
    5	 	69.8%	ap-brahmin (xing)	+	30.2%	iranian (behar)	@	1.91
    6	 	74.5%	iyengar-brahmin (harappa)	+	25.5%	uzbekistan-jew (behar)	@	1.92
    7	 	76.9%	gujarati (harappa)	+	23.1%	iraq-jew (behar)	@	1.95
    8	 	75.6%	iyengar-brahmin (harappa)	+	24.4%	iraqi-mandaean (harappa)	@	1.97
    9	 	76%	tn-brahmin (xing)	+	24%	uzbekistan-jew (behar)	@	2.02
    10	 	74.3%	brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu)	+	25.7%	iraqi-arab (harappa)	@	2.04
    11	 	74.9%	meghawal (reich)	+	25.1%	iraqi-arab (harappa)	@	2.04
    12	 	70.8%	iyengar-brahmin (harappa)	+	29.2%	iranian (behar)	@	2.05
    13	 	76.6%	meghawal (reich)	+	23.4%	uzbekistan-jew (behar)	@	2.05
    14	 	71.8%	iyengar-brahmin (harappa)	+	28.2%	kurd (harappa)	@	2.06
    15	 	74.9%	iyer-brahmin (harappa)	+	25.1%	uzbekistan-jew (behar)	@	2.07
    16	 	76.1%	iyengar-brahmin (harappa)	+	23.9%	iranian-jew (behar)	@	2.08
    17	 	76.7%	gujarati (harappa)	+	23.3%	iranian-jew (behar)	@	2.08
    18	 	78.2%	meghawal (reich)	+	21.8%	assyrian (harappa)	@	2.09
    19	 	76.2%	gujarati (harappa)	+	23.8%	iraqi-mandaean (harappa)	@	2.1
    20	 	78.7%	meghawal (reich)	+	21.3%	georgia-jew (behar)	@	2.11

    MDLP K16

    Code:
    #	Population	Percent
    1	Indian	50.81
    2	Caucasian	22.24
    3	Steppe	7.4
    4	Neolithic	5.24
    5	SouthEastAsian	5.21
    6	NearEast	2.44
    7	Oceanic	1.57
    8	Arctic	1.12
    9	Australian	1.12
    10	NorthAfrican	1.06
    11	Amerindian	0.71
    12	Ancestor	0.65
    13	NorthEastEuropean	0.36
    14	EastAfrican	0.07
    15	Siberian	0.02
    Code:
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Jatt (Pahari)	6.07
    2	Jatt (Muslim)	6.24
    3	Kashmiri_Pandit (Kashmir)	6.89
    4	Gujjar (Punjab)	7.02
    5	Jew (Cochin)	7.62
    6	Brahmin (India)	7.96
    7	Pathan (Punjab)	8.04
    8	Sindhi (Sindh)	8.31
    9	Meena (Rajasthan)	8.34
    10	Jew (Mumbai)	8.62
    11	Kshatriya (India)	8.65
    12	Burusho (Pakistan)	8.86
    13	Brahmin (Uttar_Pradesh)	10.38
    14	Vaish (Odisha)	10.58
    15	Jatt (Haryana)	10.91
    16	Brahmin (Tamil_Nadu)	11.23
    17	GujaratiA (Gujarat)	11.39
    18	Meghawal (Gujarat)	11.59
    19	Pashtun (Pakistan)	11.71
    20	Balochi (Baluchistan)	13.23
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	65.1%	Punjabi (Lahore)	+	34.9%	Georgian (Georgia)	@	2.61
    2	 	66.6%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	33.4%	Adjar (Adjaria)	@	2.67
    3	 	66.5%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	33.5%	Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia)	@	2.68
    4	 	67.1%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	32.9%	Georgian (Georgia)	@	2.7
    5	 	59.7%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	40.3%	Zoroastrian (Iran)	@	2.74
    6	 	64.5%	Punjabi (Lahore)	+	35.5%	Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia)	@	2.74
    7	 	62.3%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	37.7%	Kurd (Syria)	@	2.87
    8	 	59.8%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	40.2%	Iranian (Fars)	@	2.88
    9	 	65.4%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	34.6%	Armenian (Chambarak)	@	2.88
    10	 	64.6%	Punjabi (Lahore)	+	35.4%	Adjar (Adjaria)	@	2.92
    11	 	61.9%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	38.1%	Azeri (Azerbaijan)	@	2.97
    12	 	66%	Punjabi (Lahore)	+	34%	Georgians (Zugdidi)	@	2.98
    13	 	65.6%	Punjabi (Lahore)	+	34.4%	Abkhazian (Gudauta)	@	3.03
    14	 	57.5%	Punjabi (Lahore)	+	42.5%	Zoroastrian (Iran)	@	3.04
    15	 	74%	GujaratiB (Gujarat)	+	26%	Assyrian (Turkey)	@	3.05
    16	 	60.8%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	39.2%	Iran_Lor (Lor)	@	3.07
    17	 	62.7%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	37.3%	Azerbaijani_Dagestan (Azerbaijan_Dagestan)	@	3.08
    18	 	68.1%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	31.9%	Georgians (Zugdidi)	@	3.09
    19	 	52.5%	Gujjar (Punjab)	+	47.5%	Jew (Cochin)	@	3.1
    20	 	66.6%	GujaratiC (Gujarat)	+	33.4%	Assyrian (Armenia)	@	3.1

    Eurogenes K36
    Code:
    Population	 
    Amerindian	-    
    Arabian	0.86
    Armenian	1.70
    Basque	-    
    Central_African	-    
    Central_Euro	0.76
    East_African	-    
    East_Asian	-    
    East_Balkan	-    
    East_Central_Asian	-    
    East_Central_Euro	-    
    East_Med	3.25
    Eastern_Euro	3.14
    Fennoscandian	-    
    French	-    
    Iberian	-    
    Indo-Chinese	-    
    Italian	0.09
    Malayan	-    
    Near_Eastern	9.25
    North_African	0.12
    North_Atlantic	0.71
    North_Caucasian	3.69
    North_Sea	-    
    Northeast_African	-    
    Oceanian	-    
    Omotic	-    
    Pygmy	0.41
    Siberian	0.68
    South_Asian	42.41
    South_Central_Asian	28.96
    South_Chinese	-    
    Volga-Ural	-    
    West_African	-    
    West_Caucasian	3.84
    West_Med	-

    PuntDNAL K13 global
    Code:
    #	Population	Percent
    1	South_Asia	38.41
    2	West_Asia	35.79
    3	NE_Europe	8.13
    4	SW_Asia	7.22
    5	SW_Europe	4.95
    6	NE_Asia	1.54
    7	Siberia	1.11
    8	Americas	0.89
    9	East_Africa	0.71
    10	West_Africa	0.68
    11	Oceania	0.5
    12	SE_Asia	0.08
    Code:
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Sindhi	6.3
    2	Kashmir_Pandit	8.51
    3	Punjabi	9.49
    4	Burusho	12.15
    5	Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin	13.79
    6	Balochi	15.41
    7	Makrani	15.53
    8	Brahui	15.53
    9	Pathan	15.61
    10	Pakistan_Pashtun	15.88
    11	Bengali	16.64
    12	Afghan_Pashtun	18.87
    13	Velamas	19.62
    14	Tamil_Nadu_Caste	22.13
    15	UP_Muslim	22.26
    16	Kurumba	23.09
    17	Piramalai_Kallars	23.86
    18	Chenchus	25.24
    19	Tadjik	26.63
    20	Gond	26.98
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	88%	Sindhi	+	12%	Paniya	@	2.69
    2	 	86.6%	Sindhi	+	13.4%	Pulliyar	@	2.75
    3	 	87.5%	Sindhi	+	12.5%	Mawasi	@	2.92
    4	 	83.2%	Sindhi	+	16.8%	Gond	@	3.22
    5	 	85.3%	Sindhi	+	14.7%	Hakkipikki	@	3.25
    6	 	82.4%	Sindhi	+	17.6%	Chenchus	@	3.35
    7	 	70.3%	Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin	+	29.7%	Iranian	@	3.41
    8	 	59%	UP_Muslim	+	41%	Iranian	@	3.46
    9	 	85%	Sindhi	+	15%	North_Kannadi	@	3.47
    10	 	80.7%	Sindhi	+	19.3%	Tamil_Nadu_Caste	@	3.54
    11	 	75.8%	Sindhi	+	24.2%	Bengali	@	3.6
    12	 	73.5%	Makrani	+	26.5%	Paniya	@	3.61
    13	 	84.7%	Sindhi	+	15.3%	Sakilli	@	3.65
    14	 	81.1%	Sindhi	+	18.9%	UP_Muslim	@	3.67
    15	 	67.4%	Pathan	+	32.6%	Hakkipikki	@	3.68
    16	 	82.2%	Sindhi	+	17.8%	Piramalai_Kallars	@	3.69
    17	 	70.8%	Makrani	+	29.2%	Pulliyar	@	3.71
    18	 	76.5%	Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin	+	23.5%	Assyrian	@	3.81
    19	 	72.7%	Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin	+	27.3%	Kurdish	@	3.9
    20	 	59%	Pathan	+	41%	Tamil_Nadu_Caste	@	3.9

    PuntDNAL K10 Ancient
    Code:
    #	Population	Percent
    1	ASI	42.82
    2	CHG	30.05
    3	ENF	12.76
    4	WHG	5.59
    5	Oceanian	2.1
    6	Siberian	2.01
    7	E_Asian	1.92
    8	Amerindian	1.91
    9	Sub-Saharan	0.82
    Code:
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Sindhi	12.13
    2	Pathan	12.63
    3	UP_Brahmin	14.97
    4	Burusho	15.22
    5	Kalash	19.18
    6	Punjabi	20.96
    7	Pashtun	21.97
    8	Brahui	23.97
    9	Velama	24.62
    10	Balochi	26.36
    11	Tamil_Nadu	26.38
    12	Makrani	26.91
    13	Piramalai_Kallars	31.74
    14	Iranian	37.8
    15	Chechen	40.39
    16	Kurdish	40.95
    17	Uzbek	41.04
    18	Hazara	42.13
    19	Nogai	42.72
    20	Turkish_Kayseri	43.1
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	64.4%	Velama	+	35.6%	Turkish_Aydin	@	2.29
    2	 	58.6%	Piramalai_Kallars	+	41.4%	Kumyk	@	2.66
    3	 	67.4%	Punjabi	+	32.6%	Turkish_Kayseri	@	2.73
    4	 	70.6%	Punjabi	+	29.4%	Turkish_Trabzon	@	2.77
    5	 	69.5%	Punjabi	+	30.5%	Armenian	@	3.14
    6	 	66.3%	Punjabi	+	33.7%	Kurdish	@	3.16
    7	 	70.5%	Punjabi	+	29.5%	Assyrian	@	3.31
    8	 	64.5%	Punjabi	+	35.5%	Iranian	@	3.43
    9	 	63.8%	Velama	+	36.2%	Turkish_Kayseri	@	3.49
    10	 	56.1%	Piramalai_Kallars	+	43.9%	Chechen	@	3.56
    11	 	58.5%	Piramalai_Kallars	+	41.5%	North_Ossetian	@	3.63
    12	 	71.8%	Punjabi	+	28.2%	Iraqi_Jew	@	3.68
    13	 	78.6%	UP_Brahmin	+	21.4%	Saudi	@	3.8
    14	 	62.9%	Tamil_Nadu	+	37.1%	Turkish_Aydin	@	3.86
    15	 	68.2%	Punjabi	+	31.8%	Turkish_Aydin	@	3.98
    16	 	63.1%	Tamil_Nadu	+	36.9%	Kumyk	@	4.02
    17	 	62.2%	Tamil_Nadu	+	37.8%	Turkish_Kayseri	@	4.18
    18	 	78.4%	UP_Brahmin	+	21.6%	Palestinian	@	4.3
    19	 	78.5%	UP_Brahmin	+	21.5%	Jordanian	@	4.32
    20	 	72%	Punjabi	+	28%	Cypriot	@	4.4

    Gedrosia K9 ASI
    Code:
    #	Population	Percent
    1	Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer	46.83
    2	Ancestral_South_Indian	13.42
    3	SW_Asian	11.68
    4	SE_Asian	10.01
    5	WHG	6.23
    6	Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer	5.36
    7	Early_Neolithic_Farmers	5.12
    8	Siberian_E_Asian	0.84
    9	W_African	0.52
    Code:
    Single Population Sharing:
    
    #	Population (source)	Distance
    1	Pashtun_Afghan	11.43
    2	Pathan	11.64
    3	Burusho	11.87
    4	Punjabi	13.24
    5	Tajik_Afghan	14.98
    6	Uzbek_Afghan	15.36
    7	Balochi	15.65
    8	Makrani	16.67
    9	Brahui	17.23
    10	Kurd_SE	17.99
    11	Tajik_Pomiri	18.08
    12	Kalash	18.44
    13	Bengali	20.75
    14	Iranian	21.99
    15	Azeri_Dagestan	23.5
    16	Hazara_Afghan	23.59
    17	Lezgin	23.78
    18	Azeri	24.75
    19	Chechen	25.11
    20	Kurd_N	25.62
    
    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    
    #	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
    1	 	85.2%	Burusho	+	14.8%	Saudi	@	5.69
    2	 	89.9%	Burusho	+	10.1%	BedouinB	@	5.96
    3	 	84%	Burusho	+	16%	Yemenite_Jew	@	5.98
    4	 	51.6%	Bengali	+	48.4%	Iranian	@	6.14
    5	 	82.1%	Burusho	+	17.9%	BedouinA	@	6.34
    6	 	83.7%	Punjabi	+	16.3%	Saudi	@	6.35
    7	 	55.7%	Bengali	+	44.3%	Kurd_N	@	6.46
    8	 	82.5%	Punjabi	+	17.5%	Yemenite_Jew	@	6.64
    9	 	80.1%	Punjabi	+	19.9%	BedouinA	@	6.64
    10	 	53.4%	Bengali	+	46.6%	Azeri_Dagestan	@	6.65
    11	 	82.2%	Burusho	+	17.8%	Yemen	@	6.65
    12	 	78.7%	Burusho	+	21.3%	Syrian	@	6.73
    13	 	80%	Burusho	+	20%	Jordanian	@	6.88
    14	 	89%	Punjabi	+	11%	BedouinB	@	6.92
    15	 	80.1%	Punjabi	+	19.9%	Yemen	@	6.98
    16	 	53.8%	Bengali	+	46.2%	Lezgin	@	7
    17	 	71.8%	Balochi	+	28.2%	Ust_Ishim	@	7.09
    18	 	79.4%	Burusho	+	20.6%	Iraqi_Jew	@	7.09
    19	 	54.9%	Bengali	+	45.1%	Azeri	@	7.11
    20	 	76.4%	Punjabi	+	23.6%	Syrian	@	7.13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
    Have a friend who tested on 23andme - v4.

    Interesting results, assumed they'd be similar to other Gujarati results, but he seems more W/SW Asian shifted than I expected, across various calculators.

    He's from Bharuch, an ancient port city, but doesn't have any particular caste background of note, nor any specific documented family history.
    Less ASI shifted than a typical middle caste Hindu Gujju

    Gujarat is a melting pot - gets a lot of genetic input from Gedrosia and from incoming traders such as the Ismaili

    I think the admixture is definitely recent West Asian rather than the formative pops of South Asia inc Indo-Aryan - look at the SW Asian and ENF score in K9ASI

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmoney View Post
    Less ASI shifted than a typical middle caste Hindu Gujju

    Gujarat is a melting pot - gets a lot of genetic input from Gedrosia and from incoming traders such as the Ismaili

    I think the admixture is definitely recent West Asian rather than the formative pops of South Asia inc Indo-Aryan - look at the SW Asian and ENF score in K9ASI
    Yeah, definitely agree that it would be more recent admixture than the formative populations.

    I find his oracles really interesting when using Gujaratis. Not just that he's less ASI shifted, but the SW Asian/ENF component.

    7 76.9% gujarati (harappa) + 23.1% iraq-jew (behar) @ 1.95

    5 59.7% GujaratiC (Gujarat) + 40.3% Zoroastrian (Iran) @ 2.74



    Well documented that Arab and Iranian traders settled along the coast line. Interestingly Bharuch is actually quite a fair bit east of the Rann of Kutch and the traditional memon areas.

    His background is Sunni Muslim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
    Yeah, definitely agree that it would be more recent admixture than the formative populations.

    I find his oracles really interesting when using Gujaratis. Not just that he's less ASI shifted, but the SW Asian/ENF component.

    7 76.9% gujarati (harappa) + 23.1% iraq-jew (behar) @ 1.95

    5 59.7% GujaratiC (Gujarat) + 40.3% Zoroastrian (Iran) @ 2.74



    Well documented that Arab and Iranian traders settled along the coast line. Interestingly Bharuch is actually quite a fair bit east of the Rann of Kutch and the traditional memon areas.

    His background is Sunni Muslim.
    A few maybe but I doubt it is discernible.
    The reason I say that is the results from Maldive which was supposed to be a spot of Arab settlements showed not one J1 or E in a (albeit small) sample-set.
    They found 4 Q1a and a couple of A but not one J1 or E! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...0058-SD10.xlsx
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    He's either khoja shiekh or yemeni vohra descendants.
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    Punjab, Punjabi, Fateh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    A few maybe but I doubt it is discernible.
    The reason I say that is the results from Maldive which was supposed to be a spot of Arab settlements showed not one J1 or E in a (albeit small) sample-set.
    They found 4 Q1a and a couple of A but not one J1 or E! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...0058-SD10.xlsx
    Good point parasar, and a great excel file there. I don't know much about the history of the Maldives, but it was already a well established kingdom by the time Islam was introduced in 12th Century. Notably the aristocracy including the King converted at the time. What is the autosomal make up of the Maldives?

    With Gujarat - I imagine trade links date from a much earlier period and were larger volume. Historical records of Arab and Persian traders and settlements. Precedence with Parsis, as well as Ismaili communities, as well as the Sidis.

    I think in this case, it's the clear presence of SW Asian in his autosomal make up that lends credence to the idea of some small Arab or Persian ancestry. He certainly scores differently to your typical middle caste Gujarati Hindu.

    Khoja sunnis are quite small in number and a tight knit community, and similarly a sunni convert from Ismaili bohras..theoretically possible, but usually they maintain their minority community identity.

    Here are his DNA.land and gencove results.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
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    With Gujarat - I imagine trade links date from a much earlier period and were larger volume. Historical records of Arab and Persian traders and settlements. Precedence with Parsis, as well as Ismaili communities, as well as the Sidis.

    I think in this case, it's the clear presence of SW Asian in his autosomal make up that lends credence to the idea of some small Arab or Persian ancestry. He certainly scores differently to your typical middle caste Gujarati Hindu ...
    Very possible, but to be sure you would have check a Broach 'Hindu.' As you have mentioned Broach was trading town. It had significant outside influence. It had a Persian settlement close by at Nausari (some Parsis even think that that is Persian name!) as well as significant Greek presence within town.

    That was one of the reasons I had speculated that the "Greek" or "Iranian" or "Levantine" pilgrims found at Roopkund may have been Broach 'Hindu' Gurjars.
    "If the Greek and Levantine affinity pans out, it may point to Broach/Barygaza. I doubt Reich would say what is in the abstract unless there is good evidence."
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post308433

    As far as most of modern Gujarat goes, it has two distinct types of populations - one is very Indic (near 100%) and one with discernible steppe influence (east asiatic + steppe). West Asian influence is there in the Kutch areas which are more akin to Sindh.

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    Your friend has clear non-indigenous West Asian/South West-Asian admixture that is lacking in the majority of South Asians (including Muslims). When I say non-indigenous, I mean it is recent and not from Neolithic famers or the Steppe.

    I can't be certain but like Monkey suggested, your friend is likely of Khoja/Shiekh/Lohana background, Muslim Bohra or perhaps a Muslim Patel. There are probably a few other Muslim Gujarati backgrounds they could be from as well. Here are some of the Harappa Muslim Gujarati participant ID's.

    HRP0213 - Gujarati Khoja Shiekh
    HRP0221 - 1/2 Gujarati Khoja + 1/2 Yemeni
    HRP0265 - Gujarati Patel Muslim
    HRP0294 - Gujarati Sunni Vohra Surti


    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...en&hl=en#gid=0

    Note: Harappa is an outdated calculator so it's probably better to look at Muslim Gujarati results from more current calculators. I believe khana has a few Gedmatch kits including the Khoja Shiekh. However, despite being outdated, that 20% combined Caucasian and SW Asian score on Harappa + the non-negligible Med score shows this individual is clearly admixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reza View Post
    Good point parasar, and a great excel file there. I don't know much about the history of the Maldives, but it was already a well established kingdom by the time Islam was introduced in 12th Century. Notably the aristocracy including the King converted at the time. What is the autosomal make up of the Maldives?
    I think the Maldives/Dhivehi are Sinhalese settlers judging by the insular Indo-Aryan they speak mixed with existing Dravidians

    Their autosomal ancestry would resemble south Indians/Sri Lankans more than anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    As far as most of modern Gujarat goes, it has two distinct types of populations - one is very Indic (near 100%) and one with discernible steppe influence (east asiatic + steppe). West Asian influence is there in the Kutch areas which are more akin to Sindh.
    My bet is that Rakhigarhi will resemble the former very strongly

    West Asian ancestry is more recent in SA - Baloch/Brahui have the highest levels probably brought by Kurd-like Muslim settlers and then lower levels radiating out east and north of there - Kutch and Sindh are closest along with Seraiki/Southern Punjab areas

    Recent Muslim admixture or founder Muslim pops in SA like Sapporo said can either be spotted via elevated ENF/Caucasian or haplogroup E

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