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    Quote Originally Posted by selectivememri View Post
    cool results! i'm macedonian as well, on dna land i show 0 balkan as well, but quite a bit of like baltic and med islander, whereas my mom's biggest chunk is balkan and maybe a bit italian and sardinian. all this to say, if my mom had over 50% balkan, you'd think i'd inheritance a percentage of that. i think a lot of these calcs have difficulty parsing through admixtures especially for people in this region who are already pretty mixed.
    I was using MyHeritage to check my percentages, that's where I had 0% balkan. I understand that these calculations might not be incredibly accurate, but I think that if it's telling me that I'm 92.7% Greek, that must mean that at least a good portion of that must be true, I can't imagine it being entirely wrong. Especially considering that my closest DNA matches (that are Macedonian) had around 40-50% balkan, so the site is able to pick up on that for them.

    I think for me, it's a bit more difficult because I'm Macedonian and Italian, and all these websites definitely have a better database for Italians than they would for Macedonians, so I feel like that might throw off the calculations as well. I think it does have something to do with me being Italian because as I said, all my DNA matches that are only Macedonian do have that balkan percentage that I'm missing.

    I think it's interesting that even on these other calculators, like Eurogenes K13 for instance (which to my understanding, is pretty credible), it shows my closest population match as Greek (Thessaly) and that's followed by Central Greece. Then I forget what the other website was that shows you ancient DNA, and my closest match on that is Mycenaean (Ancient Greece.) I just find it interesting that all these sites keep showing Greek.
    AncestryDNA: Greece & the Balkans (48%) | Italy (45%) | Eastern Europe & Russia (6%) | Baltics (1%)
    MyHeritage: Greek and South Italian (92.7%) | Ashkenazi Jewish (2.5%) | Iberian (2.4%) | Italian (1.6%) | West Asian (0.8%)
    Family Tree DNA: Southeast Europe (71%) | Asia Minor (17%) | East Europe (6%) | Sephardic (5%)
    Eurogenes K15: Greek_Thessaly @ 5.405195 | Central_Greek @ 7.556436 | Ashkenazi @ 7.943811 | East_Sicilian @ 8.714078 | Greek @ 8.773556

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole2496 View Post
    I was using MyHeritage to check my percentages, that's where I had 0% balkan. I understand that these calculations might not be incredibly accurate, but I think that if it's telling me that I'm 92.7% Greek, that must mean that at least a good portion of that must be true, I can't imagine it being entirely wrong. Especially considering that my closest DNA matches (that are Macedonian) had around 40-50% balkan, so the site is able to pick up on that for them.

    I think for me, it's a bit more difficult because I'm Macedonian and Italian, and all these websites definitely have a better database for Italians than they would for Macedonians, so I feel like that might throw off the calculations as well. I think it does have something to do with me being Italian because as I said, all my DNA matches that are only Macedonian do have that balkan percentage that I'm missing.

    I think it's interesting that even on these other calculators, like Eurogenes K13 for instance (which to my understanding, is pretty credible), it shows my closest population match as Greek (Thessaly) and that's followed by Central Greece. Then I forget what the other website was that shows you ancient DNA, and my closest match on that is Mycenaean (Ancient Greece.) I just find it interesting that all these sites keep showing Greek.
    Nicole, I have southern Italian ancestry from (Strongoli) Calabria as one of my ethnicities. some older family members think there might be some Albanian because my Great Grandfather spoke Italian, English and a third language no one else understood. he would speak it on occasion when his brother came to town. The Crotone province of Calabria has Arbereshe (Albanian immigrants) villages and Crotone itself was once a Greek property. There are still a few ethnic Greek villages in Calabria as well. Crotone was a halfway point for Sicily and Greece. I get Greek more often then I get Italian on the various admixtures. I occasionally get Albanian and or Bulgarian. I get Italian South and Sicilian as well. now, being that I am watered down with a lot of English and German, the Mediterranean parts get (I think the word they use is "drifted") this way or that.

    these calculators seem (to me) reasonably accurate when the right ones are used to pull out minor ethnicities or generalizations are inferred for population groups.

    here are two of my MDLP and Dodecad lists.

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.4% Frisian ( ) + 17.6% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) @ 1.89
    2 82.1% Frisian ( ) + 17.9% Albanian_Tirana ( ) @ 1.89
    3 79.7% Frisian ( ) + 20.3% Kosovar ( ) @ 1.93
    4 82% Frisian ( ) + 18% Greek_Thessaly ( ) @ 1.94
    5 85.9% Frisian ( ) + 14.1% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.99
    6 85.5% Frisian ( ) + 14.5% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.99
    7 83.8% Frisian ( ) + 16.2% Central_Greek ( ) @ 2
    8 84.9% Frisian ( ) + 15.1% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 2.04
    9 79.2% Frisian ( ) + 20.8% Bulgarian ( ) @ 2.05
    10 88.5% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 11.5% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.05
    11 83.4% Frisian ( ) + 16.6% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 2.08
    12 79.3% Frisian ( ) + 20.7% Greek_Northwest ( ) @ 2.08
    13 88.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 11.2% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.08
    14 85.4% Frisian ( ) + 14.6% Greek ( ) @ 2.09
    15 93.2% Belgian ( ) + 6.8% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.1
    16 84.5% Frisian ( ) + 15.5% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 2.1
    17 84.3% Frisian ( ) + 15.7% Gagauz ( ) @ 2.11
    18 82.1% Frisian ( ) + 17.9% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) @ 2.14
    19 93% Belgian ( ) + 7% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.15
    20 84.3% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 15.7% Circassian ( ) @ 2.16

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 15.1% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.3
    2 84.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 15.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.46
    3 86.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 13.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.46
    4 86.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.51
    5 88.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.52
    6 88.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.3% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.55
    7 80.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 19.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.58
    8 87.7% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.59
    9 87.8% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 12.2% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.6
    10 88.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.5% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.61
    11 87.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 12.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.66
    12 88.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.66
    13 88% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 12% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.71
    14 87.8% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.76
    15 85.3% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.78
    16 92.6% CEU (HapMap) + 7.4% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.79
    17 87% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.79
    18 86.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 13.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
    19 92.1% CEU (HapMap) + 7.9% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.82
    20 81.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 18.5% TSI (HapMap) @ 1.84
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    Nicole, I have southern Italian ancestry from (Strongoli) Calabria as one of my ethnicities. some older family members think there might be some Albanian because my Great Grandfather spoke Italian, English and a third language no one else understood. he would speak it on occasion when his brother came to town. The Crotone province of Calabria has Arbereshe (Albanian immigrants) villages and Crotone itself was once a Greek property. There are still a few ethnic Greek villages in Calabria as well. Crotone was a halfway point for Sicily and Greece. I get Greek more often then I get Italian on the various admixtures. I occasionally get Albanian and or Bulgarian. I get Italian South and Sicilian as well. now, being that I am watered down with a lot of English and German, the Mediterranean parts get (I think the word they use is "drifted") this way or that.
    I use K13 since I have European ancestry only. The other calculators are far off. My results for K13 were:
    1. Greek_Thessaly 3.73
    2. Central_Greek 5.41
    3. East_Sicilian 6.66
    4. Italian_Abruzzo 7.72
    5. West_Sicilian 8.56
    6. Ashkenazi 9.34
    7. South_Italian 9.48
    8. Bulgarian 11.47
    9. Tuscan 11.52
    10. Romanian 13.88
    11. Algerian_Jewish 15.09
    12. Italian_Jewish 15.37
    13. Sephardic_Jewish 15.57
    14. North_Italian 16.41
    15. Serbian 18.25
    16. Tunisian_Jewish 18.93
    17. Libyan_Jewish 19.28
    18. Cyprian 20.33
    19. Turkish 21.9
    20. Lebanese_Muslim 23.25

    87.7% Greek_Thessaly + 12.3% Cyprian 2.41
    91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Armenian 2.47
    91% Greek_Thessaly + 9% Assyrian 2.49
    55% South_Italian + 45% Greek_Thessaly 2.53
    91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Georgian_Jewish 2.54
    70.1% Central_Greek + 29.9% Bulgarian 2.56
    80.3% South_Italian + 19.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod 2.58
    89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% Lebanese_Muslim 2.59
    64% Greek_Thessaly + 36% Central_Greek 2.6
    80.2% South_Italian + 19.8% Southwest_Russian 2.62
    91.8% Greek_Thessaly + 8.2% Kurdish_Jewish 2.62
    64.6% East_Sicilian + 35.4% Central_Greek 2.62
    91.5% Greek_Thessaly + 8.5% Lebanese_Christian 2.69
    92% Greek_Thessaly + 8% Iranian_Jewish 2.7
    81.9% South_Italian + 18.1% Erzya 2.7
    88% Central_Greek + 12% Ukrainian 2.72
    88.8% Central_Greek + 11.2% Southwest_Russian 2.72
    90.6% Central_Greek + 9.4% Lithuanian 2.74
    91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Samaritan 2.75
    83.1% South_Italian + 16.9% Lithuanian 2.75

    I also used a calculator that takes the Eurogenes K36 results and determines the closest matches in terms of ancient DNA. My closest match for that was Mycenean, which was an Ancient Greek civilization (but I know there was also a Mycenean presence in Sicily.)
    AncestryDNA: Greece & the Balkans (48%) | Italy (45%) | Eastern Europe & Russia (6%) | Baltics (1%)
    MyHeritage: Greek and South Italian (92.7%) | Ashkenazi Jewish (2.5%) | Iberian (2.4%) | Italian (1.6%) | West Asian (0.8%)
    Family Tree DNA: Southeast Europe (71%) | Asia Minor (17%) | East Europe (6%) | Sephardic (5%)
    Eurogenes K15: Greek_Thessaly @ 5.405195 | Central_Greek @ 7.556436 | Ashkenazi @ 7.943811 | East_Sicilian @ 8.714078 | Greek @ 8.773556

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole2496 View Post
    I use K13 since I have European ancestry only. The other calculators are far off. My results for K13 were:
    1. Greek_Thessaly 3.73
    2. Central_Greek 5.41
    3. East_Sicilian 6.66
    4. Italian_Abruzzo 7.72
    5. West_Sicilian 8.56
    6. Ashkenazi 9.34
    7. South_Italian 9.48
    8. Bulgarian 11.47
    9. Tuscan 11.52
    10. Romanian 13.88
    11. Algerian_Jewish 15.09
    12. Italian_Jewish 15.37
    13. Sephardic_Jewish 15.57
    14. North_Italian 16.41
    15. Serbian 18.25
    16. Tunisian_Jewish 18.93
    17. Libyan_Jewish 19.28
    18. Cyprian 20.33
    19. Turkish 21.9
    20. Lebanese_Muslim 23.25

    87.7% Greek_Thessaly + 12.3% Cyprian 2.41
    91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Armenian 2.47
    91% Greek_Thessaly + 9% Assyrian 2.49
    55% South_Italian + 45% Greek_Thessaly 2.53
    91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Georgian_Jewish 2.54
    70.1% Central_Greek + 29.9% Bulgarian 2.56
    80.3% South_Italian + 19.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod 2.58
    89.6% Greek_Thessaly + 10.4% Lebanese_Muslim 2.59
    64% Greek_Thessaly + 36% Central_Greek 2.6
    80.2% South_Italian + 19.8% Southwest_Russian 2.62
    91.8% Greek_Thessaly + 8.2% Kurdish_Jewish 2.62
    64.6% East_Sicilian + 35.4% Central_Greek 2.62
    91.5% Greek_Thessaly + 8.5% Lebanese_Christian 2.69
    92% Greek_Thessaly + 8% Iranian_Jewish 2.7
    81.9% South_Italian + 18.1% Erzya 2.7
    88% Central_Greek + 12% Ukrainian 2.72
    88.8% Central_Greek + 11.2% Southwest_Russian 2.72
    90.6% Central_Greek + 9.4% Lithuanian 2.74
    91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Samaritan 2.75
    83.1% South_Italian + 16.9% Lithuanian 2.75

    I also used a calculator that takes the Eurogenes K36 results and determines the closest matches in terms of ancient DNA. My closest match for that was Mycenean, which was an Ancient Greek civilization (but I know there was also a Mycenean presence in Sicily.)
    one thing you will find, actually you've already found it, is that each ethnicity model uses slightly different population pools for inference. some are slanted more one way or the other, some are weak at placing minor ethnicities.... for example, Ancestry DNA gave me less than 1% Iberian, while Eurogenes K36 gave me over 16%. go figure. also keep in mind, DNA does not stop at the border. Macedonia (FYROM) and Makedonia (Greece) border each other and I find it very reasonable to believe they share similar DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    one thing you will find, actually you've already found it, is that each ethnicity model uses slightly different population pools for inference. some are slanted more one way or the other, some are weak at placing minor ethnicities.... for example, Ancestry DNA gave me less than 1% Iberian, while Eurogenes K36 gave me over 16%. go figure. also keep in mind, DNA does not stop at the border. Macedonia (FYROM) and Makedonia (Greece) border each other and I find it very reasonable to believe they share similar DNA.
    Yes, that's what I think it comes down to, that the DNA is just so similar. I think that, as you said, they both border each other so the DNA could be very similar. And on top of that, I also have Southern Italian ancestors, so that could also contribute to having similar DNA to Greeks because many parts of Southern Italy were highly populated with Greeks.

    But another problem is that I don't have knowledge of many ancestors, so I can't really figure out where people came from. I don't know anything about my paternal ancestors, all I know is that my father, uncle, grandmother, and grandfather were all born in Macedonia, but I know nothing beyond. My maternal ancestors, I know only a few generations back and some are from Sicily and others from Naples, but that's also all I really know. So the only explanation I can really accept is that the DNA is just so similar to Greek DNA, but I think there's an equal possibility that I might have had Greek ancestors that I just don't know about.
    AncestryDNA: Greece & the Balkans (48%) | Italy (45%) | Eastern Europe & Russia (6%) | Baltics (1%)
    MyHeritage: Greek and South Italian (92.7%) | Ashkenazi Jewish (2.5%) | Iberian (2.4%) | Italian (1.6%) | West Asian (0.8%)
    Family Tree DNA: Southeast Europe (71%) | Asia Minor (17%) | East Europe (6%) | Sephardic (5%)
    Eurogenes K15: Greek_Thessaly @ 5.405195 | Central_Greek @ 7.556436 | Ashkenazi @ 7.943811 | East_Sicilian @ 8.714078 | Greek @ 8.773556

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole2496 View Post
    Yes, that's what I think it comes down to, that the DNA is just so similar. I think that, as you said, they both border each other so the DNA could be very similar. And on top of that, I also have Southern Italian ancestors, so that could also contribute to having similar DNA to Greeks because many parts of Southern Italy were highly populated with Greeks.

    But another problem is that I don't have knowledge of many ancestors, so I can't really figure out where people came from. I don't know anything about my paternal ancestors, all I know is that my father, uncle, grandmother, and grandfather were all born in Macedonia, but I know nothing beyond. My maternal ancestors, I know only a few generations back and some are from Sicily and others from Naples, but that's also all I really know. So the only explanation I can really accept is that the DNA is just so similar to Greek DNA, but I think there's an equal possibility that I might have had Greek ancestors that I just don't know about.
    I think you are right on all counts. Greek and southern Italian have many of the same DNA characteristics that it is difficult for some calculators to differentiate between the two unless they are from specific areas with high stand out traits not found in other parts of the same country. you will also find that mainland Greece gets mixed in with Bulgarian a lot as well.
    Last edited by JerryS.; 01-16-2018 at 03:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole2496 View Post
    Yes, that's what I think it comes down to, that the DNA is just so similar. I think that, as you said, they both border each other so the DNA could be very similar. And on top of that, I also have Southern Italian ancestors, so that could also contribute to having similar DNA to Greeks because many parts of Southern Italy were highly populated with Greeks.

    But another problem is that I don't have knowledge of many ancestors, so I can't really figure out where people came from. I don't know anything about my paternal ancestors, all I know is that my father, uncle, grandmother, and grandfather were all born in Macedonia, but I know nothing beyond. My maternal ancestors, I know only a few generations back and some are from Sicily and others from Naples, but that's also all I really know. So the only explanation I can really accept is that the DNA is just so similar to Greek DNA, but I think there's an equal possibility that I might have had Greek ancestors that I just don't know about.
    No offense, but I think you are beating a dead horse right about now. Your results are no more a mystery than someone who is a mix of northern European and southern European getting French results back : it all makes perfect sense. At least it makes sense to me. It may not seem to make sense to you because you are a 'newbie'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutorigos View Post
    No offense, but I think you are beating a dead horse right about now. Your results are no more a mystery than someone who is a mix of northern European and southern European getting French results back : it all makes perfect sense. At least it makes sense to me. It may not seem to make sense to you because you are a 'newbie'.
    Yes, I am new to all of this... I had a hunch as to why I got the results I did, but I also like to hear what other people have to say because someone might have more information than I do. Others are far more knowledgeable about this than I am, which is why I asked.
    AncestryDNA: Greece & the Balkans (48%) | Italy (45%) | Eastern Europe & Russia (6%) | Baltics (1%)
    MyHeritage: Greek and South Italian (92.7%) | Ashkenazi Jewish (2.5%) | Iberian (2.4%) | Italian (1.6%) | West Asian (0.8%)
    Family Tree DNA: Southeast Europe (71%) | Asia Minor (17%) | East Europe (6%) | Sephardic (5%)
    Eurogenes K15: Greek_Thessaly @ 5.405195 | Central_Greek @ 7.556436 | Ashkenazi @ 7.943811 | East_Sicilian @ 8.714078 | Greek @ 8.773556

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    Nicole, I have southern Italian ancestry from (Strongoli) Calabria as one of my ethnicities. some older family members think there might be some Albanian because my Great Grandfather spoke Italian, English and a third language no one else understood. he would speak it on occasion when his brother came to town. The Crotone province of Calabria has Arbereshe (Albanian immigrants) villages and Crotone itself was once a Greek property. There are still a few ethnic Greek villages in Calabria as well. Crotone was a halfway point for Sicily and Greece. I get Greek more often then I get Italian on the various admixtures. I occasionally get Albanian and or Bulgarian. I get Italian South and Sicilian as well. now, being that I am watered down with a lot of English and German, the Mediterranean parts get (I think the word they use is "drifted") this way or that.

    these calculators seem (to me) reasonably accurate when the right ones are used to pull out minor ethnicities or generalizations are inferred for population groups.

    here are two of my MDLP and Dodecad lists.

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.4% Frisian ( ) + 17.6% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) @ 1.89
    2 82.1% Frisian ( ) + 17.9% Albanian_Tirana ( ) @ 1.89
    3 79.7% Frisian ( ) + 20.3% Kosovar ( ) @ 1.93
    4 82% Frisian ( ) + 18% Greek_Thessaly ( ) @ 1.94
    5 85.9% Frisian ( ) + 14.1% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.99
    6 85.5% Frisian ( ) + 14.5% Greek_Athens ( ) @ 1.99
    7 83.8% Frisian ( ) + 16.2% Central_Greek ( ) @ 2
    8 84.9% Frisian ( ) + 15.1% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 2.04
    9 79.2% Frisian ( ) + 20.8% Bulgarian ( ) @ 2.05
    10 88.5% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 11.5% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) @ 2.05
    11 83.4% Frisian ( ) + 16.6% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 2.08
    12 79.3% Frisian ( ) + 20.7% Greek_Northwest ( ) @ 2.08
    13 88.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 11.2% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.08
    14 85.4% Frisian ( ) + 14.6% Greek ( ) @ 2.09
    15 93.2% Belgian ( ) + 6.8% Georgian_Laz ( ) @ 2.1
    16 84.5% Frisian ( ) + 15.5% Romanian_Jew ( ) @ 2.1
    17 84.3% Frisian ( ) + 15.7% Gagauz ( ) @ 2.11
    18 82.1% Frisian ( ) + 17.9% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) @ 2.14
    19 93% Belgian ( ) + 7% Georgian_Imereti ( ) @ 2.15
    20 84.3% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 15.7% Circassian ( ) @ 2.16

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 84.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 15.1% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.3
    2 84.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 15.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.46
    3 86.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 13.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.46
    4 86.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.51
    5 88.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.52
    6 88.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 11.3% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.55
    7 80.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 19.1% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.58
    8 87.7% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.59
    9 87.8% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 12.2% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.6
    10 88.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.5% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.61
    11 87.4% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 12.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.66
    12 88.1% Orcadian (HGDP) + 11.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.66
    13 88% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 12% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.71
    14 87.8% Orcadian (HGDP) + 12.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.76
    15 85.3% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.78
    16 92.6% CEU (HapMap) + 7.4% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.79
    17 87% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 13% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.79
    18 86.2% Orcadian (HGDP) + 13.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.81
    19 92.1% CEU (HapMap) + 7.9% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.82
    20 81.5% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 18.5% TSI (HapMap) @ 1.84
    The third language was most likely Calabrian , some had a sub dialect of calabrian associated with Sicilian ..........all languages are completely different to Italian

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    Last edited by vettor; 01-16-2018 at 04:45 AM.


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    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-Y33791 ydna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtdna

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole2496 View Post
    87.7% Greek_Thessaly + 12.3% Cyprian 2.4
    To my knowledge, Greek_Thessaly, Greek_Macedonia, Northern Greece references are more northern shifted due to Slavic settlements. Slavic Balkanites are autosomally a 50/50 between Slavic and native for the most part. Your Southern Italian ancestry also explains alot. There were many Greek colonies in Southern Italy. They also come closer to Greek Islanders. This could explain why you turn up mostly "Greek Like". Also, autosomes combine at random. You could have inherited more from one side over the other, with regards to autosome reflection.

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