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    Hello ataneojr1

    Have you thought about upgrading your STRs at Family Tree DNA? That would be a big help in learning more about your haplogroup.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemist223 View Post
    Have you thought about upgrading your STRs at Family Tree DNA? That would be a big help in learning more about your haplogroup.
    Note that an upgrade to Big Y-700 would include an upgrade to 700 Y-STRs, including the original 111. My understanding is that ataneojr1 plans to order the Big Y-700 upgrade at a later date. Now if only FTDNA would subsidize it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemist223 View Post
    Hello ataneojr1

    Have you thought about upgrading your STRs at Family Tree DNA? That would be a big help in learning more about your haplogroup.
    DONE!!! Will download the FTDNA Big Y700 BAM file sometime after New Years to send to YFULL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    DONE!!! Will download the FTDNA Big Y700 BAM file sometime after New Years to send to YFULL.
    Hi ataneojr1, are you planning to send your BigY-700 BAM to YFull anytime soon? It would really help refining phylogenetic tree of macrohaplogroup P, together with Yana samples and Andaman islander, whose analysis isn't done yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Hi ataneojr1, are you planning to send your BigY-700 BAM to YFull anytime soon? It would really help refining phylogenetic tree of macrohaplogroup P, together with Yana samples and Andaman islander, whose analysis isn't done yet.
    I think he is YF13223
    https://yfull.com/tree/P/

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    I think he is YF13223
    https://yfull.com/tree/P/
    Yeah, but that's his BigY-500 result, which hasn't covered a lot of SNPs on all 4 P-levels.

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    Yes, once I have the extra funds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Hi ataneojr1, are you planning to send your BigY-700 BAM to YFull anytime soon? It would really help refining phylogenetic tree of macrohaplogroup P, together with Yana samples and Andaman islander, whose analysis isn't done yet.
    How long do you think it will take to finish the analysis? These samples have been up on YFull for quite a while.
    MDKA: Robert Boulay, b. 1631, Réveillon, Orne, France
    Y-DNA: R1b-U152 > L2 > Z367 > Z34 > Z33 > BY164497> BY3604

    Maternal Y-DNA: J2a-M67 > Z1847 > Y4036 > Z467 > Z447> L210

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    Quote Originally Posted by alchemist223 View Post
    How long do you think it will take to finish the analysis? These samples have been up on YFull for quite a while.
    I'm not really sure why is analysis of Yana samples taking them so long, the only reasonable explanation is they are preoccupied with their day-to-day business (i.e. analysing results of paying customers). The same situation is with all ancient samples recently added to YFull tree, but Yana samples are far too important to be left unfinished for almost 8 months, IMO. In case anybody missed the reason why these two samples are so important, it's this:
    Population of several hundred people which Yana1 and Yana2 were part of more than 30.000 years ago wasn't just a dead end "cousin" population of distant ancestors of all living R&Q men, it was THE population in which those ancestors lived for at least several hundred years, and probably much longer.

    I've analysed Y-calls of both Yana samples and of the 19th century Andaman islander, and discovered that Yana2 has three more derived SNPs than Yana1, so those three mutations which are carried by all living R&Q men must've happened in the population Yana1 and Yana2 were part of. Three SNPs that are derived in Yana2, but ancestral in Yana1 (and Andaman islander) are: P284 (currently at P337 level), and PF5482 and PF5883/M1197 (currently at P1 level). All three SNPs have multiple reads (>3) in all three ancient samples, and moreover P284 and PF5482 are transversions, so very unlikely to be the result of aDNA damage. So when I sent my analysis to YFull, along with BAM files, I proposed Yana2 forming another level (P284) between levels P337 and P226, but that still hasn't happened.

    Here is my analysis of these three samples:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L_w...ew?usp=sharing

    And here is how the tree should actually look like:

    yana.PNG
    Last edited by Pribislav; 04-24-2020 at 10:17 PM.

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    I see yfull listed PF5482, M1208, CTS3446, CTS3509 at P1 level, is yfull wrong? Shouldn't these SNPs at P-M45 level?

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