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    It is always missing from any list, lol???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    It is always missing from any list, lol???
    The FTDNA employee (an assistant manager) wrote that "I don't think I have ever seen a P in the database." He promised to honor the discount price of the Big Y if, indeed, your Y-DNA12 confirms you to belong to Px(Q,R).

    I must point out, of course, that this is a multi-step procedure:
    1) Your Y-DNA12 results arrive. Since FTDNA has never seen a P*, your haplogroup is left unpredicted.
    2) FTDNA runs a Y-Hap-Backbone test. If done correctly, it should return Px(Q,R).
    3) We crowdfund your Big Y.

    I have a couple worries:
    1) Your Y-DNA12 (actually 14 markers) may appear to match some other haplogroup such as R1b, such that FTDNA assigns you an incorrect haplogroup prediction. This is unlikely but possible. If it happens, we will consider our options.
    2) Your Y-Hap-Backbone test may falsely return an R1b-M269 result. This is unlikely, but has happened in the past. If it happens, we will consider our options.

    On the other hand...It's too early to worry about such things! Let's just wait calmly for your Y-DNA12 results.
    Last edited by lgmayka; 01-24-2018 at 10:45 AM.

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    Thank You.....I am not worried just find it funny that when it comes to list of Ydna in almost all Forums...P is always missing....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    Thank You.....I am not worried just find it funny that when it comes to list of Ydna in almost all Forums...P is always missing....
    You received your 12 markers. As expected, FTDNA is unable to predict your haplogroup. However...

    You have one exact 12-marker match, who tested M89+ and hence is classified as F-M89. The question is whether he was ever tested for M9 (haplogroup K) or M45 (haplogroup P)? I have asked FTDNA this question, although I am not sure whether they are permitted to answer (since this person is not a project member).

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    I called them and ask why there is no Haplogroup Designation. The lady said she will put in a Request for a Backbone Test???
    Whats the deal with F=M89? Wikipedia says it is common in South/Southeast Asia?

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    Just so you know, these are the SNPs FTDNA will test as part of their Backbone SNP test; this test is run when they cannot reliably predict a (high-level) haplogroup from your 12-marker results.

    A-M91
    B-M181
    C-RPS4Y711
    D-M174
    E-M96
    E-M2
    E-M35.1
    F-M89
    G-M201
    H-M69
    I-M170
    I-M253
    I-P37.2
    I-M223
    J-M304
    J-M267
    J-M172
    K-M9
    L-M20
    M-M106
    N-M231
    O-M175
    P-M45
    Q-M242
    Q-M3
    R-M207
    R-M173
    R-M198
    R-M269
    R-M124
    S-M230
    T-M70

    As alluded to in post 2, if your P-P295 result from elsewhere is accurate, the backbone test *should* come back with a K-M9 result (since P-P295 is not part of the test and P-M45 is below it).

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    Can I have a look at the haplotype so that I could try to infer something about it ? Although the resolution is low (12 markers), it would be extremely helpful to see how does it look like.
    Last edited by Squad; 01-31-2018 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swid View Post
    As alluded to in post 2, if your P-P295 result from elsewhere is accurate, the backbone test *should* come back with a K-M9 result (since P-P295 is not part of the test and P-M45 is below it).
    And indeed it did: result K-M9. I have now asked FTDNA to order the Big Y for this kit at the discount/coupon price on a pay-later basis. I will then post a request for crowdfunding.

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    FTDNA Big Y haplogroup P-BY49600

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataneojr1 View Post
    FTDNA Big Y haplogroup P-BY49600
    809841 Taneo Patricio D. Taneo Philippines P-BY49600 14 22 15 9 12-16 11 14 11 13 13 29

    This is my first look at a P STR sequence.
    Of course it has changed since the first P, but I notice that DYS426 is 11.

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