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    Mephisto's Grand K12 Modern Calculator

    Hello, I made a calculator based on modern references. 649 different samples from around the world are included. The calculator was unsupervised (samples were not merged according to their later component), but all ancestral components were made as I wanted them to get. The components are:
    • Papuan
    • Yakut
    • Caucasus (peaks in Ossetians, Georgians and other Caucasian people, no Turkic speaking people of the Caucasus)
    • W_Africa (Yoruba and Mandenka)
    • E_Asia (Han Chinese and other East Asian populations like Mongola or Tungusic people)
    • Kalash
    • NW_Europe (Orcadians from the British Isles)
    • Arabia (peaks in Bedouins, Saudis, and with around ~76% in Yemenite Jews (South Arabians))
    • Mozabite
    • S_Asia (Punjabis and other South Asians)
    • Brahui-Baloochi
    • Mediterranean (Sardinians)

    You will get the best genotype rate with FamilytreeDNA's Build 37 autosomal raw data, however other autosomal files will work fine too (as long they are in a DIY Dodecad compatible form). The run itself took with an example ftdna raw data file 158.35 seconds so be patient while running your data. With a small donation I will run your data through the calculator (just contact my E-Mail for this), it takes a lot of time to standardize (and often even convert the file to accepted DIY Dodecad formats) and then run the genotype data through the calculator. It is just an offer, the files are freely available as usual. You can also just ask other members of the forum. The results looks good, so does the ADMIXTURE plot:
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      0.00%  Papuan              
      1.60%  Yakut               
     33.40%  Caucasus            
      0.07%  W_Africa            
      0.27%  E_Asia              
      2.27%  Kalash             
     15.21%  NW_Europe           
     10.69%  Arabia              
      4.20%  Mozabite (Yemenite Jews score also a good amount of this Mozabite component)
      4.73%  S_Asia              
     13.40%  Brahui-Baloochi (compared to other South Asians they are more Iranic)     
     14.15%  Mediterranean
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    Download:
    https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...EO?usp=sharing

    To run the calculator you will need the DIY Dodecad files which you can download below, instructions to usage are in the Readme.txt:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7A...4NjRmMTlk/view

    size: ~16mbs
    Last edited by mephisto; 01-26-2018 at 09:04 PM.

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    As in calc files there isn't DiyDodecadwin.exe which is needed for work, here is link to to download it https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7A...4NjRmMTlk/view

    My results:


    0.00% Papuan
    0.45% Yakut
    8.95% Caucasus
    0.24% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    2.68% Kalash
    65.37% NW_Europe
    1.75% Arabia
    0.11% Mozabite
    3.41% S_Asia
    2.86% Brahui-Baloochi
    14.19% Mediterranean

    Evidently NE-Euro component is needed in my case
    Make K13 version with it. Possibly then Kalash, Baluchi and S_Asia would be reduced to minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    As in calc files there isn't DiyDodecadwin.exe which is needed for work, here is link to to download it https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7A...4NjRmMTlk/view

    My results:


    0.00% Papuan
    0.45% Yakut
    8.95% Caucasus
    0.24% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    2.68% Kalash
    65.37% NW_Europe
    1.75% Arabia
    0.11% Mozabite
    3.41% S_Asia
    2.86% Brahui-Baloochi
    14.19% Mediterranean

    Evidently NE-Euro component is needed in my case
    Make K13 version with it. Possibly then Kalash, Baluchi and S_Asia would be reduced to minimum.
    I thought of the Eastern European people while preparing the reference.. But I did not know what populations could represent Eastern Europeans (Russians, Ukranians or Lithuanians?) thus I did not include any Eastern Europeans. But besides this your results look consistent. Yes, maybe in the next version

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    Quote Originally Posted by mephisto View Post
    I thought of the Eastern European people while preparing the reference.. But I did not what populations could represent Eastern Europeans (Russians, Ukranians or Lithuanians?) thus I did not include any Eastern Europeans. But besides this your results look consistent.
    You use Lazaridis? Try with Mordvins from here. There are called "Mordovian" in dataset...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    You use Lazaridis? Try with Mordvins from here.
    Yes, thank you. I will include them in the next version. ADMIXTURE is running already.
    Last edited by mephisto; 01-26-2018 at 09:02 PM.

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    Sounds like to going your going to re-upload the files, however here are my FTDNA results.

    0.24% Papuan
    0.29% Yakut
    11.44% Caucasus
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    2.50% Kalash
    60.05% NW_Europe
    0.57% Arabia
    1.41% Mozabite
    1.56% S_Asia
    1.61% Brahui-Baloochi
    20.32% Mediterranean
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    Mephisto, I see you created a great calculator The proliferation of calculators is amazing recently on anthrogenica.

    My results:

    0.00% Papuan
    2.33% Yakut
    9.98% Caucasus
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    2.15% Kalash
    59.48% NW_Europe
    0.30% Arabia
    1.58% Mozabite
    2.73% S_Asia
    5.24% Brahui-Baloochi
    16.22% Mediterranean

    EDIT: Maybe I run an unfinished version of the calc or something. I will wait then.

    HINT: Try to use 10 Orcadians if you are using 10 Mordovians from Lazaridis. I know by my own mistakes that the number of individuals per component matters.

    EDIT2: I figured out I run something else and not your calculator. Now I run your calc and it is very interesting indeed! Waiting for NE_Europe. I am thrilled by 2.33% Yakut and 5.24% Brahui-Baloochi
    Last edited by michal3141; 01-26-2018 at 10:37 PM. Reason: Proper results

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    Quote Originally Posted by BalkanKiwi View Post
    Sounds like to going your going to re-upload the files, however here are my FTDNA results.

    0.24% Papuan
    0.29% Yakut
    11.44% Caucasus
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    2.50% Kalash
    60.05% NW_Europe
    0.57% Arabia
    1.41% Mozabite
    1.56% S_Asia
    1.61% Brahui-Baloochi
    20.32% Mediterranean
    Yes, the next version (which is running right now) will have an Eastern Europe component. You are the first to score Papuan.
    Last edited by mephisto; 01-26-2018 at 09:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    Mephisto, I see you created a great calculator The proliferation of calculators is amazing recently on anthrogenica.

    My results:

    31.96% East_European
    39.30% West_European
    18.00% Mediterranean
    0.00% Neo_African
    7.52% West_Asian
    1.01% South_Asian
    1.03% Northeast_Asian
    0.19% Southeast_Asian
    0.12% East_African
    0.80% Southwest_Asian
    0.02% Northwest_African
    0.05% Palaeo_African

    I don't understand how did I end up with higher West_European than East_European Apart from that results looks goods good to me.
    I appreciate it. I always said modern calculators are not too hard to make compared to ancient. Yes I looked that I always have around the same sample amount for every component (in my mind).
    Last edited by mephisto; 01-26-2018 at 09:48 PM. Reason: misunderstood at the beginning

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    Results look fairly normal given the components.

    Me:

    0.00% Papuan
    1.29% Yakut
    10.35% Caucasus
    0.19% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    2.19% Kalash
    56.57% NW_Europe
    2.03% Arabia
    1.32% Mozabite
    0.02% S_Asia
    2.35% Brahui-Baloochi
    23.69% Mediterranean

    Dad:

    0.00% Papuan
    2.54% Yakut
    11.63% Caucasus
    0.27% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    1.12% Kalash
    56.54% NW_Europe
    0.76% Arabia
    2.19% Mozabite
    0.05% S_Asia
    2.63% Brahui-Baloochi
    22.26% Mediterranean

    Mom:

    0.14% Papuan
    0.01% Yakut
    10.13% Caucasus
    0.09% W_Africa
    0.03% E_Asia
    2.87% Kalash
    58.93% NW_Europe
    0.01% Arabia
    1.80% Mozabite
    1.63% S_Asia
    2.26% Brahui-Baloochi
    22.10% Mediterranean

    Wife:

    0.01% Papuan
    0.98% Yakut
    10.70% Caucasus
    0.07% W_Africa
    0.00% E_Asia
    2.26% Kalash
    61.56% NW_Europe
    1.45% Arabia
    1.88% Mozabite
    0.02% S_Asia
    1.73% Brahui-Baloochi
    19.32% Mediterranean

    Father in law:

    0.00% Papuan
    0.70% Yakut
    10.42% Caucasus
    0.33% W_Africa
    0.58% E_Asia
    1.49% Kalash
    60.91% NW_Europe
    1.00% Arabia
    2.79% Mozabite
    1.04% S_Asia
    1.71% Brahui-Baloochi
    19.04% Mediterranean

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