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    Quote Originally Posted by passion View Post
    good thread

    I want to see results of some Muhajir Syeds specially shia Muhajirs because I have observed some interesting phenotype diversity among them.
    Idk if you're still following this thread or topic but I'm a Shia Muhajir Syed. Just posted my results here

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadzaidi View Post
    Muhajir Syed here... My family moved to Pakistan from Rajasthan, India in 1947.

    From what I have researched on the internet, my ancestors first moved to the Indian subcontinent in 11th or 12th century so its only natural that we are ethnically South Asian. Although I don't know much about our ethnicity than being Syeds in Rajasthan who spoke Urdu and identity as Urdu-speaking in Pakistan.

    My paternal haplogroup is J-M67 i.e. J1 which I believe originates from Western Asia. Maternal haplogroup is T1, which is apparently common in Central Asia & turkic populations.

    Here are my results on Harappaworld:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 36.91
    2 Baloch 36.15
    3 Caucasian 9.73
    4 NE-Euro 7.77
    5 SW-Asian 2.86
    6 American 1.62
    7 Siberian 1.56
    8 Mediterranean 1.51
    9 NE-Asian 1.19


    23andme says I'm 96.6% North Indian and Pakistani (with a match with the Punjab region, UP, Haryana), 2.4% Central Asian, and 1% Iranian, Caucasian and Mesopotamian.
    You mean J-M267?

    J-M67 is part of J2a.

    I think I remember you from 23andMe's forums.
    Last edited by subzero85; 03-02-2021 at 02:34 AM.

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    delete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadzaidi View Post
    Muhajir Syed here... My family moved to Pakistan from Rajasthan, India in 1947.

    From what I have researched on the internet, my ancestors first moved to the Indian subcontinent in 11th or 12th century so its only natural that we are ethnically South Asian. Although I don't know much about our ethnicity than being Syeds in Rajasthan who spoke Urdu and identity as Urdu-speaking in Pakistan.

    My paternal haplogroup is J-M67 i.e. J1 which I believe originates from Western Asia. Maternal haplogroup is T1, which is apparently common in Central Asia & turkic populations.

    Here are my results on Harappaworld:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 36.91
    2 Baloch 36.15
    3 Caucasian 9.73
    4 NE-Euro 7.77
    5 SW-Asian 2.86
    6 American 1.62
    7 Siberian 1.56
    8 Mediterranean 1.51
    9 NE-Asian 1.19


    23andme says I'm 96.6% North Indian and Pakistani (with a match with the Punjab region, UP, Haryana), 2.4% Central Asian, and 1% Iranian, Caucasian and Mesopotamian.
    could you post your oracles?
    “Some of you say, “Joy is greater than sorrow,” and others say, “Nay, sorrow is the greater.”
    But I say unto you, they are inseparable.
    Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed.”
    ― Khalil Gibran, The Prophet, 1923

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero85 View Post
    You mean J-M267?

    J-M67 is part of J2a.

    I think I remember you from 23andMe's forums.
    My bad! Yes, its J-M267.

    and nice to meet again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    could you post your oracles?
    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 up-muslim_harappa @ 3.815987
    2 punjabi_harappa @ 5.534684
    3 singapore-indian-c_sgvp @ 6.496271
    4 kashmiri-pahari_harappa @ 6.550885
    5 punjabi-brahmin_harappa @ 6.586778
    6 punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa @ 6.686420
    7 gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 6.723610
    8 kashmiri-pandit_reich @ 6.862713
    9 up-brahmin_harappa @ 7.044865
    10 bihari-brahmin_harappa @ 7.105602
    11 punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 7.781781
    12 pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 7.812788
    13 nepali_harappa @ 8.374754
    14 nepalese-a_xing @ 8.434888
    15 bihari-muslim_harappa @ 8.605257
    16 bengali-brahmin_harappa @ 8.687731
    17 kashmiri_harappa @ 8.838791
    18 brahmin-uttar-pradesh_metspalu @ 8.893381
    19 rajasthani-brahmin_harappa @ 9.239162
    20 meena_metspalu @ 9.758748

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% brahmin-uttar-pradesh_metspalu +50% gujarati-muslim_harappa @ 2.159864


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% sindhi_harappa +25% up-muslim_harappa +25% up-scheduled-caste_metspalu @ 1.594671


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 bhatia_harappa + meghawal_metspalu + pashtun_harappa + sri-lankan_harappa @ 1.229027
    2 bihari-brahmin_harappa + naidu_reich + pashtun_harappa + sindhi_harappa @ 1.398585
    3 bene-israel-jew_behar + bhatia_harappa + kanjar_metspalu + nepalese-a_xing @ 1.426515
    4 ap-hyderabad_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa + pashtun_harappa + punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa @ 1.447664
    5 bene-israel-jew_behar + bhatia_harappa + dharkar_metspalu + nepalese-a_xing @ 1.456282
    6 gujarati-muslim_harappa + haryana-jatt_harappa + naidu_reich + sindhi_harappa @ 1.461291
    7 bhatia_harappa + bihari-muslim_harappa + naidu_reich + pashtun_harappa @ 1.474910
    8 cochin-jew_behar + haryana-jatt_harappa + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa @ 1.476534
    9 kerala-nair_harappa + pashtun_harappa + pathan_hgdp + up-scheduled-caste_metspalu @ 1.488963
    10 ap-brahmin_xing + dharkar_metspalu + pashtun_harappa + sindhi_harappa @ 1.497118
    11 ap-hyderabad_harappa + pashtun_harappa + punjabi-arain_xing + vaish_reich @ 1.505602
    12 cochin-jew_behar + haryana-jatt_harappa + kashmiri_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa @ 1.508048
    13 kerala-nair_harappa + pashtun_harappa + up-kshatriya_metspalu + up-muslim_harappa @ 1.523022
    14 bhatia_harappa + naidu_reich + pashtun_harappa + vaish_reich @ 1.548125
    15 kerala-nair_harappa + pashtun_harappa + punjabi-jatt-sikh_harappa + sourastrian_harappa @ 1.555959
    16 naidu_reich + pashtun_harappa + pathan_hgdp + up-kshatriya_metspalu @ 1.558069
    17 meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa + up-muslim_harappa + up-muslim_harappa @ 1.560264
    18 ap-hyderabad_harappa + bhatia_harappa + dharkar_metspalu + pashtun_harappa @ 1.562418
    19 ap-brahmin_xing + kerala-nair_harappa + pashtun_harappa + pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 1.568154
    20 ap-hyderabad_harappa + bhatia_harappa + cochin-jew_behar + haryana-jatt_harappa @ 1.572965

    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadzaidi View Post
    My bad! Yes, its J-M267.

    and nice to meet again
    What is your subclade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadzaidi View Post
    Muhajir Syed here... My family moved to Pakistan from Rajasthan, India in 1947.

    From what I have researched on the internet, my ancestors first moved to the Indian subcontinent in 11th or 12th century so its only natural that we are ethnically South Asian. Although I don't know much about our ethnicity than being Syeds in Rajasthan who spoke Urdu and identity as Urdu-speaking in Pakistan.

    My paternal haplogroup is J-M67 i.e. J1 which I believe originates from Western Asia. Maternal haplogroup is T1, which is apparently common in Central Asia & turkic populations.

    Here are my results on Harappaworld:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 36.91
    2 Baloch 36.15
    3 Caucasian 9.73
    4 NE-Euro 7.77
    5 SW-Asian 2.86
    6 American 1.62
    7 Siberian 1.56
    8 Mediterranean 1.51
    9 NE-Asian 1.19


    23andme says I'm 96.6% North Indian and Pakistani (with a match with the Punjab region, UP, Haryana), 2.4% Central Asian, and 1% Iranian, Caucasian and Mesopotamian.
    T1a1 maternal haplo is found all over south Asia. Not common, but not rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asadzaidi View Post
    My bad! Yes, its J-M267.

    and nice to meet again
    Hi Asad, nice to have you here. Do you by any chance belong to a established 'Saadat". Like the Saadats of Amroha, Bilgrim, Gardez, Sabzwar etc etc.

    Also if you don't mind. Just so I can figure out what relation you might have with other established saadats. Do you by any chance know the son of Imam Zayd that you descend from.

    From the books I've read, Imam Zayd had the following sons:
    - Yahya Al Maktool al Juzjan - no children only a daughter.
    - Abu Yahya Isa al Muatam al Ishbal
    - Abu Abdullah Muhammad
    - Abu Abdullah Hussain Zaw al Abrah

    Imam Isa al Muatam al Ishbal is the ancestor of many UP saadats. He's also considered an Imam of the Zaidi Shia. Not in the infallible sense.

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    Hi, I am a "syed" from Bihar-sharif, Bihar, India.
    These are my gedmatch HarappaWorld results.
    My paternal Haplogroup is R-Z93. Maternal is M-35b.

    I feel the left side and right side columns of the mixed mode oracle, have an interesting pattern going on. What would be your opinions?


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 45.06
    2 Baloch 28.53
    3 Caucasian 7.34
    4 NE-Euro 6.96
    5 NE-Asian 3.81
    6 SW-Asian 2.1
    7 Mediterranean 2.04
    8 Beringian 1.2
    9 Siberian 1.14
    10 American 0.51
    11 Papuan 0.48
    12 SE-Asian 0.45
    13 E-African 0.37

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 64.3% chamar (metspalu) + 35.7% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 1.96
    2 65.1% kamsali (reich) + 34.9% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.23
    3 69.5% hallaki (reich) + 30.5% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.31
    4 75.1% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) + 24.9% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.37
    5 84.7% up-muslim (metspalu) + 15.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.42
    6 63.2% sakilli (chaubey) + 36.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.44
    7 70.2% kol (metspalu) + 29.8% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.52
    8 84.5% up-muslim (metspalu) + 15.5% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.53
    9 63.5% bhil (reich) + 36.5% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.55
    10 60.8% madiga (reich) + 39.2% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.56
    11 85.4% caribbean-indian (harappa) + 14.6% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 2.7
    12 61.4% ap-madiga (xing) + 38.6% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.75
    13 82.3% kanjar (metspalu) + 17.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.78
    14 88% caribbean-indian (harappa) + 12% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.78
    15 88.6% bihari (harappa) + 11.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) @ 2.88
    16 82.1% kanjar (metspalu) + 17.9% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 2.89
    17 73.5% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) + 26.5% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.98
    18 69.5% up-muslim (harappa) + 30.5% chenchu (reich) @ 2.99
    19 79.1% up-scheduled-caste (metspalu) + 20.9% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 3.01
    20 62.8% tamil-vishwakarma (harappa) + 37.2% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.01

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