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    Myself

     

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 43.50
    2 West_Asian 29.50
    3 Eastern_Euro 11.87
    4 North_Sea 5.59
    5 East_Med 4.09
    6 Siberian 2.44
    7 Sub-Saharan 1.02


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Pathan @ 5.047115
    2 Punjabi_Jat @ 7.695618
    3 Sindhi @ 7.827813
    4 Burusho @ 9.153804
    5 Kalash @ 9.306537
    6 Balochi @ 17.083405
    7 Brahui @ 17.272085
    8 Afghan_Pashtun @ 17.625807
    9 Makrani @ 21.311714
    10 Brahmin_UP @ 21.462397
    11 Gujarati @ 21.467993
    12 Kshatriya @ 23.408253
    13 Tadjik @ 26.425180
    14 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 26.702852
    15 Afghan_Tadjik @ 26.818937
    16 Bangladeshi @ 27.335489
    17 Dharkar @ 32.456871
    18 Kanjar @ 33.658604
    19 Turkmen @ 34.797798
    20 Velamas @ 35.897976

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +50% Sindhi @ 3.915201


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +25% Sindhi +25% Sindhi @ 3.915201


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Burusho + Kalash + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 3.501193
    2 Afghan_Pashtun + Kalash + Kalash + Velamas @ 3.598377
    3 Brahui + Burusho + Gujarati + Kalash @ 3.667021
    4 Afghan_Pashtun + Kalash + Kalash + Kurumba @ 3.717671
    5 Balochi + Burusho + Gujarati + Kalash @ 3.762315
    6 Afghan_Pashtun + Gujarati + Kalash + Sindhi @ 3.882783
    7 Burusho + Kalash + Punjabi_Jat + Sindhi @ 3.903387
    8 Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 3.915201
    9 Gujarati + Kalash + Kalash + Pathan @ 3.962227
    10 Brahui + Gujarati + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.028054
    11 Kalash + Pathan + Punjabi_Jat + Sindhi @ 4.062298
    12 Kalash + Pathan + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.074697
    13 Burusho + Kalash + Pathan + Sindhi @ 4.101096
    14 Brahui + Burusho + Kalash + Kshatriya @ 4.163836
    15 Balochi + Gujarati + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.165500
    16 Kalash + Pathan + Pathan + Sindhi @ 4.185969
    17 Afghan_Pashtun + Dusadh + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.194602
    18 Brahui + Kalash + Kalash + Kshatriya @ 4.213438
    19 Balochi + Burusho + Kalash + Kshatriya @ 4.228902
    20 Afghan_Pashtun + Dharkar + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.231572


    "Father"

     

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 42.83
    2 West_Asian 31.98
    3 Eastern_Euro 11.07
    4 East_Med 6.83
    5 North_Sea 2.49
    6 Sub-Saharan 1.25


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Pathan @ 5.726130
    2 Sindhi @ 7.873615
    3 Kalash @ 9.349467
    4 Burusho @ 10.965899
    5 Punjabi_Jat @ 10.984887
    6 Brahui @ 13.968099
    7 Balochi @ 14.000471
    8 Afghan_Pashtun @ 16.907804
    9 Makrani @ 18.201530
    10 Gujarati @ 23.702770
    11 Brahmin_UP @ 23.954174
    12 Kshatriya @ 25.448374
    13 Tadjik @ 26.434286
    14 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 26.487436
    15 Afghan_Tadjik @ 26.655952
    16 Bangladeshi @ 29.424465
    17 Turkmen @ 33.519726
    18 Dharkar @ 34.270401
    19 Kanjar @ 35.503613
    20 Velamas @ 37.189922

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +50% Sindhi @ 4.007379


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +25% Sindhi +25% Sindhi @ 4.007379


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Brahui + Kalash + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 3.388995
    2 Balochi + Kalash + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 3.514107
    3 Brahui + Burusho + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 3.846246
    4 Balochi + Burusho + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 3.905545
    5 Brahui + Gujarati + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.006438
    6 Kalash + Kalash + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.007379
    7 Gujarati + Kalash + Kalash + Makrani @ 4.074913
    8 Brahui + Brahui + Gujarati + Kalash @ 4.129002
    9 Brahui + Kalash + Kalash + Kshatriya @ 4.156794
    10 Brahui + Brahui + Kalash + Kshatriya @ 4.216125
    11 Kalash + Kalash + Kshatriya + Makrani @ 4.219252
    12 Balochi + Brahui + Gujarati + Kalash @ 4.244796
    13 Kalash + Makrani + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.261801
    14 Balochi + Brahui + Kalash + Kshatriya @ 4.324744
    15 Brahui + Kalash + Pathan + Sindhi @ 4.325490
    16 Kalash + Pathan + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.348448
    17 Balochi + Gujarati + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.361821
    18 Brahui + Kalash + Punjabi_Jat + Sindhi @ 4.371515
    19 Balochi + Balochi + Gujarati + Kalash @ 4.403834
    20 Balochi + Pathan + Sindhi + Sindhi @ 4.408330


    "Mother"

     

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 40.88
    2 West_Asian 28.01
    3 Eastern_Euro 11.62
    4 North_Sea 4.23
    5 Siberian 3.66
    6 Baltic 3.41
    7 Atlantic 2.46
    8 Amerindian 1.88
    9 Sub-Saharan 1.09


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Pathan @ 6.094138
    2 Burusho @ 6.385198
    3 Punjabi_Jat @ 7.803398
    4 Kalash @ 8.679581
    5 Sindhi @ 11.010460
    6 Afghan_Pashtun @ 16.581841
    7 Balochi @ 18.541641
    8 Brahui @ 19.034601
    9 Brahmin_UP @ 21.783924
    10 Gujarati @ 22.875044
    11 Makrani @ 22.922651
    12 Tadjik @ 23.899698
    13 Kshatriya @ 24.290243
    14 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 24.907869
    15 Afghan_Tadjik @ 25.130579
    16 Bangladeshi @ 27.652384
    17 Dharkar @ 33.404621
    18 Turkmen @ 33.710575
    19 Kanjar @ 34.634182
    20 Afghan_Hazara @ 36.830399

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Burusho +50% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.861740


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +25% Kanjar +25% Tadjik @ 3.507799


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Afghan_Pashtun + Burusho + Kalash + Kshatriya @ 3.411453
    2 Afghan_Pashtun + Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Kalash @ 3.482071
    3 Kalash + Kalash + Kanjar + Tadjik @ 3.507799
    4 Dharkar + Kalash + Kalash + Tadjik @ 3.626561
    5 Afghan_Pashtun + Burusho + Gujarati + Kalash @ 3.636256
    6 Burusho + Burusho + Kalash + Punjabi_Jat @ 3.641599
    7 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Kalash + Kalash @ 3.655705
    8 Burusho + Burusho + Pathan + Punjabi_Jat @ 3.670579
    9 Burusho + Burusho + Chamar + Chechen @ 3.701180
    10 Burusho + Chechen + Gujarati + Kshatriya @ 3.708213
    11 Burusho + Chamar + Chechen + Kalash @ 3.720592
    12 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Chechen + Gujarati @ 3.730649
    13 Burusho + Kalash + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 3.745904
    14 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Chechen + Kshatriya @ 3.756662
    15 Burusho + Burusho + Chechen + North_Kannadi @ 3.761576
    16 Burusho + Chechen + Kshatriya + Kshatriya @ 3.766023
    17 Burusho + Chechen + Gujarati + Gujarati @ 3.798072
    18 Burusho + Kalash + Pathan + Punjabi_Jat @ 3.800159
    19 Burusho + Chechen + Kanjar + Punjabi_Jat @ 3.855003
    20 Burusho + Burusho + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 3.861740



    Grandmother

     

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Asian 29.44
    2 South_Asian 29.23
    3 Eastern_Euro 15.18
    4 North_Sea 7.14
    5 Siberian 4.71
    6 Baltic 3.82
    7 East_Med 2.76
    8 Amerindian 2.63
    9 Southeast_Asian 2.28
    10 Sub-Saharan 1.27
    11 Atlantic 1.26


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Afghan_Pashtun @ 8.023632
    2 Kalash @ 10.307923
    3 Burusho @ 11.938224
    4 Tadjik @ 13.213963
    5 Pathan @ 13.958875
    6 Afghan_Tadjik @ 15.497131
    7 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 15.902604
    8 Balochi @ 15.935255
    9 Brahui @ 17.127150
    10 Punjabi_Jat @ 18.154213
    11 Makrani @ 20.115660
    12 Sindhi @ 21.660940
    13 Turkmen @ 24.385050
    14 Afghan_Hazara @ 29.327618
    15 Tabassaran @ 29.412640
    16 Nogay @ 30.061600
    17 Lezgin @ 31.067226
    18 Uzbeki @ 31.692184
    19 Afghan_Turkmen @ 31.847960
    20 Kumyk @ 32.006371

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +50% Tadjik @ 4.719327


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +25% Kalash +25% Uzbeki @ 4.145819


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Afghan_Turkmen + Kalash + Kalash + Kalash @ 3.394379
    2 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Uzbeki @ 4.145819
    3 Burusho + Kalash + Kalash + Nogay @ 4.235005
    4 Burusho + Burusho + Burusho + Tabassaran @ 4.261292
    5 Kalash + Kalash + Nogay + Punjabi_Jat @ 4.381101
    6 Burusho + Kalash + Tadjik + Tadjik @ 4.392613
    7 Afghan_Pashtun + Burusho + Kalash + Tadjik @ 4.433364
    8 Burusho + Kalash + Nogay + Punjabi_Jat @ 4.525875
    9 Afghan_Hazara + Kalash + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.599821
    10 Afghan_Turkmen + Kalash + Kalash + Pathan @ 4.632590
    11 Burusho + Kalash + Nogay + Pathan @ 4.649032
    12 Kalash + Kalash + Nogay + Pathan @ 4.703691
    13 Kalash + Kalash + Tadjik + Tadjik @ 4.719327
    14 Burusho + Burusho + Punjabi_Jat + Tabassaran @ 4.768996
    15 Burusho + Burusho + Pathan + Tabassaran @ 4.777812
    16 Kalash + Kalash + Kalash + Tatar @ 4.801555
    17 Afghan_Turkmen + Burusho + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.813304
    18 Afghan_Turkmen + Kalash + Kalash + Punjabi_Jat @ 4.834147
    19 Burusho + Burusho + Burusho + Lezgin @ 4.860896
    20 Afghan_Pashtun + Afghan_Turkmen + Kalash + Kalash @ 4.861071


    "Grandfather"

     

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 51.46
    2 West_Asian 24.11
    3 Eastern_Euro 9.62
    4 East_Med 5.07
    5 Atlantic 4.26
    6 Baltic 1.91
    7 Northeast_African 1.43


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sindhi @ 7.171946
    2 Punjabi_Jat @ 10.655857
    3 Pathan @ 12.655868
    4 Brahmin_UP @ 12.834838
    5 Gujarati @ 13.000806
    6 Kshatriya @ 13.964043
    7 Burusho @ 16.401686
    8 Bangladeshi @ 18.844891
    9 Kalash @ 19.532959
    10 Dharkar @ 22.622726
    11 Kanjar @ 23.734451
    12 Brahui @ 24.485399
    13 Balochi @ 24.604443
    14 Velamas @ 26.158262
    15 Uttar_Pradesh @ 27.154861
    16 Afghan_Pashtun @ 27.156607
    17 Kurumba @ 27.467245
    18 Makrani @ 27.688885
    19 Kol @ 28.706413
    20 Dusadh @ 29.495102

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Balochi +50% Kanjar @ 4.830040


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Balochi +25% Kanjar +25% Kanjar @ 4.830040


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Brahui + Kalash + Kanjar + Kshatriya @ 4.476497
    2 Balochi + Kalash + Kanjar + Kanjar @ 4.478163
    3 Brahui + Kalash + Kanjar + Kanjar @ 4.511517
    4 Balochi + Kalash + Kshatriya + North_Kannadi @ 4.512693
    5 Balochi + Kshatriya + Kshatriya + Sindhi @ 4.520527
    6 Brahui + Kalash + Kshatriya + North_Kannadi @ 4.530159
    7 Balochi + Dharkar + Kalash + Kanjar @ 4.545501
    8 Balochi + Kalash + Kanjar + Kshatriya @ 4.553678
    9 Balochi + Kanjar + Kshatriya + Pathan @ 4.583666
    10 Balochi + Kalash + Kshatriya + Kurumba @ 4.584203
    11 Brahui + Dharkar + Kalash + Kanjar @ 4.591831
    12 Brahui + Kshatriya + Kshatriya + Sindhi @ 4.603783
    13 Brahui + Burusho + Kanjar + Kshatriya @ 4.609688
    14 Brahui + Kalash + Kshatriya + Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.610184
    15 Balochi + Burusho + Kanjar + Kshatriya @ 4.626908
    16 Brahui + Kanjar + Kshatriya + Pathan @ 4.631574
    17 Balochi + Kalash + Kshatriya + Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.641777
    18 Kalash + Kanjar + Kanjar + Makrani @ 4.642327
    19 Brahui + Kalash + Kshatriya + Kurumba @ 4.654824
    20 Balochi + Burusho + Kshatriya + Velamas @ 4.660739


    1st Cousin

     

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 37.52
    2 West_Asian 30.14
    3 Eastern_Euro 12.35
    4 East_Med 6.17
    5 North_Sea 5.75
    6 Baltic 4.16
    7 Red_Sea 1.29
    8 Atlantic 1.11


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Pathan @ 4.909124
    2 Kalash @ 6.060819
    3 Burusho @ 10.305803
    4 Punjabi_Jat @ 10.626022
    5 Afghan_Pashtun @ 11.458881
    6 Balochi @ 11.982319
    7 Sindhi @ 12.241091
    8 Brahui @ 12.761561
    9 Makrani @ 16.797544
    10 Tadjik @ 20.811657
    11 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 21.799198
    12 Afghan_Tadjik @ 22.004446
    13 Brahmin_UP @ 26.299564
    14 Gujarati @ 27.092348
    15 Kshatriya @ 28.758675
    16 Turkmen @ 29.051449
    17 Bangladeshi @ 32.300808
    18 Tabassaran @ 35.507370
    19 Lezgin @ 36.672600
    20 Afghan_Hazara @ 36.803642

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +50% Pathan @ 3.333946


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Kalash +25% Makrani +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.476164


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Gujarati + Lezgin + Pathan + Pathan @ 2.088313
    2 Balochi + Kalash + Pathan + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.272075
    3 Gujarati + Kalash + Lezgin + Sindhi @ 2.283578
    4 Kshatriya + Lezgin + Pathan + Pathan @ 2.336977
    5 Kalash + Kshatriya + Lezgin + Sindhi @ 2.343915
    6 Kalash + Kshatriya + Lezgin + Pathan @ 2.344642
    7 Afghan_Pashtun + Kalash + Pathan + Pathan @ 2.362595
    8 Kalash + Kanjar + Lezgin + Pathan @ 2.398529
    9 Dharkar + Kalash + Lezgin + Pathan @ 2.456650
    10 Afghan_Pashtun + Kalash + Pathan + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.468192
    11 Kalash + Kalash + Makrani + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.476164
    12 Gujarati + Kalash + Lezgin + Pathan @ 2.506270
    13 Gujarati + Pathan + Pathan + Tabassaran @ 2.529100
    14 Gujarati + Kalash + Lezgin + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.537292
    15 Afghan_Pashtun + Balochi + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.543352
    16 Brahui + Kalash + Pathan + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.543606
    17 Kalash + Kalash + Kanjar + Lezgin @ 2.543714
    18 Afghan_Pashtun + Pathan + Pathan + Pathan @ 2.545527
    19 Balochi + Kalash + Kalash + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.550248
    20 Kalash + Kshatriya + Lezgin + Punjabi_Jat @ 2.569984
    “Chahar chez est tohfay Multan, Gard-o- Garma, Gada-o- Goristan”.

    Four things are the gift of Multan: Dusty winds, hot seasons, beggars and graveyards.




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    United States of America California Republic Canada India Punjab Sikh Empire Nishan Sahib
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 45.72
    2 West_Asian 25.28
    3 Eastern_Euro 14.57
    4 East_Med 4.76
    5 North_Sea 4.17
    6 Baltic 3.57
    7 Amerindian 1.59
    8 Siberian 0.33

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Punjabi_Jat 4.88
    2 Pathan 5.59
    3 Sindhi 6.77
    4 Burusho 10.38
    5 Kalash 11.07
    6 Brahmin_UP 15.58
    7 Gujarati 16.3
    8 Kshatriya 17.62
    9 Balochi 17.64
    10 Brahui 17.88
    11 Afghan_Pashtun 18.73
    12 Makrani 21.19
    13 Bangladeshi 21.93
    14 Dharkar 25.84
    15 Tadjik 26.54
    16 Kanjar 26.7
    17 Afghan_Uzbeki 26.98
    18 Afghan_Tadjik 27.39
    19 Velamas 29.52
    20 Uttar_Pradesh 29.7

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 80.3% Pathan + 19.7% Kshatriya @ 3.66
    2 79% Pathan + 21% Gujarati @ 3.66
    3 86.3% Pathan + 13.7% Kanjar @ 3.68
    4 78.4% Pathan + 21.6% Brahmin_UP @ 3.72
    5 88.5% Pathan + 11.5% North_Kannadi @ 3.75
    6 88.3% Pathan + 11.7% Kol @ 3.84
    7 87.9% Pathan + 12.1% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.86
    8 90.2% Pathan + 9.8% Chamar @ 3.88
    9 89.7% Pathan + 10.3% Piramalai @ 3.96
    10 90.5% Pathan + 9.5% Sakilli @ 3.96
    11 86.6% Pathan + 13.4% Dharkar @ 3.96
    12 89% Pathan + 11% Dusadh @ 3.99
    13 75.5% Kalash + 24.5% North_Kannadi @ 4.07
    14 88.9% Pathan + 11.1% Kurumba @ 4.11
    15 62.5% Kalash + 37.5% Kshatriya @ 4.11
    16 59.2% Punjabi_Jat + 40.8% Pathan @ 4.13
    17 88.7% Pathan + 11.3% Velamas @ 4.15
    18 72% Kalash + 28% Kanjar @ 4.19
    19 89.9% Pathan + 10.1% Chenchu @ 4.2
    20 74.2% Kalash + 25.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.22

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    A8a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 45.72
    2 West_Asian 25.28
    3 Eastern_Euro 14.57
    4 East_Med 4.76
    5 North_Sea 4.17
    6 Baltic 3.57
    7 Amerindian 1.59
    8 Siberian 0.33

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Punjabi_Jat 4.88
    2 Pathan 5.59
    3 Sindhi 6.77
    4 Burusho 10.38
    5 Kalash 11.07
    6 Brahmin_UP 15.58
    7 Gujarati 16.3
    8 Kshatriya 17.62
    9 Balochi 17.64
    10 Brahui 17.88
    11 Afghan_Pashtun 18.73
    12 Makrani 21.19
    13 Bangladeshi 21.93
    14 Dharkar 25.84
    15 Tadjik 26.54
    16 Kanjar 26.7
    17 Afghan_Uzbeki 26.98
    18 Afghan_Tadjik 27.39
    19 Velamas 29.52
    20 Uttar_Pradesh 29.7

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 80.3% Pathan + 19.7% Kshatriya @ 3.66
    2 79% Pathan + 21% Gujarati @ 3.66
    3 86.3% Pathan + 13.7% Kanjar @ 3.68
    4 78.4% Pathan + 21.6% Brahmin_UP @ 3.72
    5 88.5% Pathan + 11.5% North_Kannadi @ 3.75
    6 88.3% Pathan + 11.7% Kol @ 3.84
    7 87.9% Pathan + 12.1% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.86
    8 90.2% Pathan + 9.8% Chamar @ 3.88
    9 89.7% Pathan + 10.3% Piramalai @ 3.96
    10 90.5% Pathan + 9.5% Sakilli @ 3.96
    11 86.6% Pathan + 13.4% Dharkar @ 3.96
    12 89% Pathan + 11% Dusadh @ 3.99
    13 75.5% Kalash + 24.5% North_Kannadi @ 4.07
    14 88.9% Pathan + 11.1% Kurumba @ 4.11
    15 62.5% Kalash + 37.5% Kshatriya @ 4.11
    16 59.2% Punjabi_Jat + 40.8% Pathan @ 4.13
    17 88.7% Pathan + 11.3% Velamas @ 4.15
    18 72% Kalash + 28% Kanjar @ 4.19
    19 89.9% Pathan + 10.1% Chenchu @ 4.2
    20 74.2% Kalash + 25.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.22
    Wanted to compare my 2-Oracle list with yours. I posted the Oracle-4s in my post; they didn't give the full Oracle-2 list:

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Pathan 4.64
    2 Punjabi_Jat 6.86
    3 Sindhi 6.97
    4 Kalash 8.36
    5 Burusho 8.73
    6 Balochi 14.99
    7 Brahui 15.08
    8 Afghan_Pashtun 15.75
    9 Makrani 18.62
    10 Brahmin_UP 18.85
    11 Gujarati 19
    12 Kshatriya 20.66
    13 Tadjik 24.02
    14 Bangladeshi 24.49
    15 Afghan_Uzbeki 24.62
    16 Afghan_Tadjik 24.75
    17 Dharkar 28.63
    18 Kanjar 29.74
    19 Turkmen 31.18
    20 Velamas 31.79

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55.9% Sindhi + 44.1% Kalash @ 3.7
    2 80.8% Kalash + 19.2% Velamas @ 3.73
    3 81.4% Kalash + 18.6% Kurumba @ 3.74
    4 82.3% Kalash + 17.7% Dusadh @ 3.88
    5 83.4% Kalash + 16.6% Piramalai @ 3.91
    6 84.5% Kalash + 15.5% Sakilli @ 3.93
    7 71.7% Kalash + 28.3% Gujarati @ 3.99
    8 82.9% Kalash + 17.1% Chenchu @ 4.02
    9 84.5% Kalash + 15.5% Chamar @ 4.03
    10 82.1% Kalash + 17.9% Kol @ 4.05
    11 82.6% Kalash + 17.4% North_Kannadi @ 4.07
    12 79.5% Kalash + 20.5% Dharkar @ 4.1
    13 81.6% Kalash + 18.4% Uttar_Pradesh @ 4.12
    14 73.8% Kalash + 26.2% Kshatriya @ 4.26
    15 80.4% Kalash + 19.6% Kanjar @ 4.28
    16 58% Sindhi + 42% Burusho @ 4.28
    17 76.8% Pathan + 23.2% Sindhi @ 4.34
    18 92% Pathan + 8% Gujarati @ 4.35
    19 95.6% Pathan + 4.4% Kurumba @ 4.39
    20 95.5% Pathan + 4.5% Velamas @ 4.4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    @Tirunelvi

    You’re getting quite a bit of Euro “Steppe” related admixture for a Deccan Muslim. I was expecting more West Asian, East Med and Red Sea. That Steppe pull is causing Brahmins from Eastern UP and UP Kshatriya to show up at the top of your single population distance
    I was suprised when I initially got my results with how much Steppe-related ancestry I was scoring on Admixture calculators. I thought I would have much more Middle Eastern/West Asian related ancestry before I got my results, I'm from Hyderabad but some of my DNA relatives on 23andme are from the north like Northern Brahmins, Rajputs, and Punjabi Khatris so perhaps some of my ancestors are not native to the Deccan but from the north and the source of the higher steppe.

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    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 51.17
    2 West_Asian 23.8
    3 Eastern_Euro 14.3
    4 Atlantic 4.54
    5 Baltic 2.84
    6 Siberian 1.16
    7 North_Sea 1.04
    8 Amerindian 0.81
    9 East_Med 0.34

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Punjabi_Jat 8.44
    2 Sindhi 9.51
    3 Brahmin_UP 11.09
    4 Pathan 11.77
    5 Gujarati 12.03
    6 Kshatriya 12.87
    7 Burusho 13.64
    8 Kalash 16.22
    9 Bangladeshi 18.06
    10 Dharkar 21.06
    11 Kanjar 21.63
    12 Balochi 23.61
    13 Brahui 23.8
    14 Afghan_Pashtun 24.51
    15 Uttar_Pradesh 24.8
    16 Velamas 25.04
    17 Kurumba 25.88
    18 Kol 26.2
    19 North_Kannadi 27.08
    20 Makrani 27.12

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 57.6% Kalash + 42.4% Kanjar @ 4.74
    2 56.5% Kshatriya + 43.5% Kalash @ 4.83
    3 63.3% Kalash + 36.7% North_Kannadi @ 5.05
    4 61% Brahmin_UP + 39% Kalash @ 5.16
    5 61.2% Kalash + 38.8% Uttar_Pradesh @ 5.17
    6 67.7% Kalash + 32.3% Chamar @ 5.38
    7 57.1% Kalash + 42.9% Dharkar @ 5.44
    8 58.8% Gujarati + 41.2% Kalash @ 5.54
    9 51.8% Kshatriya + 48.2% Burusho @ 5.58
    10 56.5% Brahmin_UP + 43.5% Burusho @ 5.64
    11 62.7% Kalash + 37.3% Kol @ 5.68
    12 53.9% Gujarati + 46.1% Burusho @ 5.73
    13 68.2% Kalash + 31.8% Sakilli @ 5.8
    14 66% Kalash + 34% Piramalai @ 5.9
    15 64% Kalash + 36% Dusadh @ 5.99
    16 52.9% Pathan + 47.1% Kshatriya @ 6.05
    17 52.1% Brahmin_UP + 47.9% Pathan @ 6.12
    18 62.6% Kalash + 37.4% Kurumba @ 6.12
    19 66.3% Punjabi_Jat + 33.7% Kshatriya @ 6.21
    20 67.5% Pathan + 32.5% Kanjar @ 6.27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirunelvi View Post
    I was suprised when I initially got my results with how much Steppe-related ancestry I was scoring on Admixture calculators. I thought I would have much more Middle Eastern/West Asian related ancestry before I got my results, I'm from Hyderabad but some of my DNA relatives on 23andme are from the north like Northern Brahmins, Rajputs, and Punjabi Khatris so perhaps some of my ancestors are not native to the Deccan but from the north and the source of the higher steppe.
    What's your exact breakdown that you know of? I'm trying to label everyone as accurate as possible (if they are OK with it). I'm talking each grandparent, cities, villages, huts. Written/oral histories. Basically, I'm trying to get everyone's, "Well... supposedly my [This] is from [That], but they moved from [There] ... I'm a [This], which is a [That], but.... our [Such-and-Such] varies [Them-and-Those] because..." story.

    I'm trying to get a sense of population movements in last 500 years and seeing if they are corroborated by other knowns, like historical records, y-DNA/mtDNA distribution etc. We generalize too much over huge swathes of land, so every little bit helps put the puzzle together.
    Last edited by khanabadoshi; 04-10-2018 at 02:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khanabadoshi View Post
    What's your exact breakdown that you know of? I'm trying to label everyone as accurate as possible (if they are OK with it). I'm talking each grandparent, cities, villages, huts. Written/oral histories. Basically, I'm trying to get everyone's, "Well... supposedly my [This] is from [That], but they moved from [Their] ... I'm a [This], which is a [That], but.... our [Such-and-Such] varies [Them-and-Those] because..." story.

    I'm trying to get a sense of population movements in last 500 years and seeing if they are corroborated by other knowns, like historical records, y-DNA/mtDNA distribution etc. We generalize too much over huge swathes of land, so every little bit helps put the puzzle together.
    My family history that I know is that my grandparents are all from Old City Hyderabad, There native tongues were Deccani Urdu and Telugu. Both sides of my family have Middle Eastern origin myths . My father's side we are supposedly Syed and go by the title Qazi or Qadi, and we were granted the title from a Firman from Shah Jehan himself after settling from Iran according to family lore( very very unlikely based on my Y-DNA). While on mother side we are supposedly of Iraqi Arab ancestry as well 7 generations back but after these results I don't trust these family myths. Most of the surnames on my family tree are also of Islamic Honorific lineages like Siddiqui, Ansari, Farooqui, and so on. On 23andme DNA relatives the ones I have are of diverse origin mostly other Hyderabadis but also Tamil/Keralite Hindus and Christians and oddly like said in my other post Upper caste North Indians which was the biggest suprise. Most of my family migrated to Karachi post-partition.
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    # Population Percent
    1 South_Asian 50.88
    2 West_Asian 18.77
    3 Eastern_Euro 12.69
    4 North_Sea 6.91
    5 Siberian 3.17
    6 Amerindian 1.89
    7 Baltic 1.69
    8 Red_Sea 1.61
    9 Southeast_Asian 1.31
    10 Sub-Saharan 1.06


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Punjabi_Jat @ 9.733476
    2 Brahmin_UP @ 10.688128
    3 Gujarati @ 11.920383
    4 Sindhi @ 13.203907
    5 Kshatriya @ 13.350498
    6 Pathan @ 15.052127
    7 Burusho @ 16.167318
    8 Bangladeshi @ 16.772907
    9 Kalash @ 21.069502
    10 Dharkar @ 22.089003
    11 Kanjar @ 22.989487
    12 Uttar_Pradesh @ 25.972124
    13 Velamas @ 27.100094
    14 Kol @ 27.280493
    15 Kurumba @ 27.689070
    16 North_Kannadi @ 28.696871
    17 Afghan_Pashtun @ 28.793907
    18 Dusadh @ 28.896801
    19 Balochi @ 29.270935
    20 Brahui @ 29.432346

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Brahmin_UP +50% Burusho @ 6.089939


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Brahmin_UP +25% Burusho +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 5.349778


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
    1 Burusho + Kol + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.228919
    2 Burusho + North_Kannadi + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.297026
    3 Burusho + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat + Uttar_Pradesh @ 5.338563
    4 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Gujarati + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.340593
    5 Brahmin_UP + Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.349778
    6 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Kshatriya + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.433362
    7 Burusho + Chamar + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.510303
    8 Bangladeshi + Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.606633
    9 Burusho + Gujarati + Gujarati + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.626117
    10 Burusho + Gujarati + Kshatriya + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.644512
    11 Burusho + Burusho + Chamar + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.669281
    12 Burusho + Dusadh + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.683773
    13 Bangladeshi + Burusho + Gujarati + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.704496
    14 Burusho + Kanjar + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.729230
    15 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Burusho + Kol @ 5.730989
    16 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Kalash + Kol @ 5.734448
    17 Burusho + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat + Sakilli @ 5.757691
    18 Burusho + Kshatriya + Kshatriya + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.761514
    19 Burusho + Chenchu + Punjabi_Jat + Punjabi_Jat @ 5.764532
    20 Brahmin_UP + Burusho + Kalash + Uttar_Pradesh @ 5.824843

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirunelvi View Post
    My family history that I know is that my grandparents are all from Old City Hyderabad, There native tongues were Deccani Urdu and Telugu. Both sides of my family have Middle Eastern origin myths . My father's side we are supposedly Syed and go by the title Qazi or Qadi, and we were granted the title from a Firman from Shah Jehan himself after settling from Iran according to family lore( very very unlikely based on my Y-DNA). While on mother side we are supposedly of Iraqi Arab ancestry as well 7 generations back but after these results I don't trust these family myths. Most of the surnames on my family tree are also of Islamic Honorific lineages like Siddiqui, Ansari, Farooqui, and so on. On 23andme DNA relatives the ones I have are of diverse origin mostly other Hyderabadis but also Tamil/Keralite Hindus and Christians and oddly like said in my other post Upper caste North Indians which was the biggest suprise. Most of my family migrated to Karachi post-partition.
    I have the results of another South Asian Qazi -- though given the meaning and honorific use of Qazi -- we probably shouldn't assume you 2 share paternal/tribal/clan-like ancestry. Though, you never know. It's possible the results I have are yours hahaha. I'll dig them up tonight and post here. I don't know where that Qazi is from.

    Since we have a few people from Hyderabad or the surrounding areas on this forum, I think it's a good place for me to start trying to dig deeper. There are lots of written records for Hyderabad, so we can go backwards and try to figure out who came when and so on. Establish a kind of baseline.

    I'm trying to learn at least the who/what/when/where of South Asian Muslims to a similar extent I am familiar with Pakistan, but it's daunting. There is so much geography, time periods to cover, figuring out when a place was ruled by a Muslim and when/if people converted (and who the rulers brought with them and from where), even just the general lay of the land and what ethnic groups live where is proving a burden. The Sikhs and Hindus have a pretty good sense of their respective "Who's Who", and in Pakistan we rely a lot more on language differentiation and have the benefit of a significant % of the populace having tribal/clan names that persist. However, when it comes to looking at Muslim population east of there, I think we are all so lazy and just generalize people as, "UP Muslim", "Bihari", etc. A lot of people are from Hyderabad, but are the majority of Muslims there originally Telugu Hindus who adopted Urdu, or are they South Asians from further North who moved South? There are a massive amount of backgrounds in Hyderabad alone, so I think it's a good idea to at least consolidate all the histories, myths, rumors, and general knowns and form a more nuanced perspective of these regions. I'd like to able to use terms that hold some meaningful weight and are actually descriptive. f. ex. I can post a result of a person from Lahore and say so and so is Gujjar and then post another result and say so and so is Jatt -- and this gives a lot of context to the results. The fact they're from Lahore becomes almost irrelevant. The opposite seems to be the case for how we are treating Indian Muslims or Bengalis. we are just dividing people as Syed/non-Syed pretty much or "local convert"/"maybe-moved-from-somewhere-else convert", and relying heavily on their current geographical location for all context and inferences. I suppose we in fact generalize too much for much of Central and Eastern India, be it the Muslim or Hindu populations. I mean I made like 5-7 distinct groupings of people from just the district of Chitral, literally each valley got its own grouping... and when it comes to UP or Bihar -- 2 states whose combined population nearly equals or exceeds the entire population of Pakistan -- the only distinction we make is Muslim (Syed/non-Syed) and Hindu (Brahmin/non-Brahmin). And even that doesn't really give any context, except to tell me this guy says Assalaamualaikum and that guy says Namaste.

    I got plans! However, I'm a procrastinator, so eventually I think we can figure some things out. I know one thing -- if we don't try to sort these things out, no one else will! Many people just aren't interested in the region as a whole beyond their own piece in it. At least the British were curious during their reign. I'd say our best recent records are all British, and now those are 100-some years old. The more time passes, the more we lose even the myths and stories of people's backgrounds, and then we'll have nothing to go on.

    ...but yeah, I'll find that Qazi for ya, LOL...

    /ramblings
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    I get south east asian in every calculator. Is it related to central indian tribals?

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