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    Yakut academic sample (not from Lazaridis or Russian dataset)


    0.05% Nasoic
    2.16% Uralic
    1.06% South-Amerindian
    1.82% North-Indian
    0.00% Central-African
    2.95% Altaic
    2.19% Kamchatkan
    0.25% Mediterranean
    1.21% Eskimoic
    6.66% Siberian
    0.00% Caucasian
    0.00% Amazonian
    9.77% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.45% Druzian
    0.02% North-Amerindian
    0.00% Arabic
    0.00% Berberic
    0.56% Papuan
    3.40% Northeast-European
    0.00% Khomani-San
    5.22% Taiwanese-Aborigenal
    1.46% Kalash
    60.76% Northeast-Asian
    0.00% West-African

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    Results for Finnish samples:

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    Nasoic Uralic South-Amerindian North-Indian Central-African Altaic Kamchatkan Mediterranean Eskimoic Siberian Caucasian Amazonian East-Asian East-African Druzian North-Amerindian Arabic Berberic Papuan Northeast-European Khomani-San Taiwan-Aborigenal Kalash Northeast-Asian West-African ID Ethnicity
    
    0.009455 0.029244 0.020272 0.022808 0.002822 0.005702 0.00001 0.145572 0.00001 0.017741 0.000813 0.00001 0.00001 0.00001 0.038756 0.00001 0.000807 0.029844 0.00001 0.606549 0.00001 0.016391 0.024928 0.028208 0.00001 HG00190 Finnish
    0.001044 0.062848 0.012766 0.013828 0.002102 0.027343 0.013159 0.063022 0.00371 0.035408 0.00001 0.00001 0.00001 0.000557 0.00001 0.006433 0.050505 0.022063 0.00001 0.661499 0.00001 0.00001 0.012595 0.011038 0.00001 HG00182 Finnish
    0.00001 0.085903 0.00001 0.00438 0.00001 0.024344 0.00001 0.079846 0.001745 0.035138 0.00001 0.004503 0.00001 0.00001 0.019305 0.008854 0.00001 0.019827 0.012308 0.678448 0.00001 0.00001 0.007309 0.017979 0.00001 HG00171 Finnish
    0.00001 0.057929 0.00001 0.00001 0.00001 0.015297 0.02359 0.102335 0.005058 0.017962 0.019687 0.007721 0.005338 0.009736 0.039185 0.006094 0.016681 0.013344 0.011147 0.634979 0.00001 0.008615 0.000188 0.005053 0.00001 HG00266 Finnish
    0.021058 0.086912 0.006473 0.025658 0.00001 0.008309 0.018692 0.112871 0.000127 0.024386 0.004328 0.00001 0.00001 0.002814 0.024838 0.012274 0.010521 0.007741 0.003108 0.609729 0.00001 0.00001 0.020091 0.00001 0.00001 HG00183 Finnish
    0.00001 0.026201 0.005951 0.027522 0.00001 0.01713 0.020087 0.185371 0.024857 0.011579 0.00001 0.002721 0.00001 0.000561 0.00001 0.00001 0.042745 0.002534 0.00001 0.61117 0.00001 0.000014 0.018119 0.003348 0.00001 HG00174 Finnish
    0.013282 0.073061 0.008561 0.005002 0.00001 0.00799 0.00001 0.155017 0.005612 0.019954 0.011841 0.00001 0.00001 0.00001 0.01263 0.013671 0.00001 0.00001 0.00001 0.636039 0.00001 0.012875 0.007938 0.016428 0.00001 HG00173 Finnish
    Apart from Northeast-European and Mediterranean which is common in all Europeans they tend to score some noticeable Uralic.
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    High K calculators should be supervised on ADMIXTURE, otherwise there will be ancestral components which are related very closely (see the Yakut's result, 60% NE Asia and 6.66% Siberia).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mephisto View Post
    High K calculators should be supervised on ADMIXTURE, otherwise there will be ancestral components which are related very closely (see the Yakut's result, 60% NE Asia and 6.66% Siberia).
    If I understood you correctly you are trying to convince me that the NE Asian peaking in Yakuts and Siberian peaking in Kets and Nganassans are related very closely as components. I don't think this is the case.There must have been a reason that ADMIXTURE created this two separate components and not NW-Euro and NE-Euro. Genetically Orcadians and Belarussians must be closer related than Kets and Yakuts. I am quite convinced this is the case.

    EDIT: I mean Europeans are quite mixed because of heavy migrations that took place in Europe throughout millenia. The populations in some regions of the world such as Siberia might be more isolated because because not so many migrations took place there (I am not 100% sure this is correct but this is my understanding).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mephisto View Post
    High K calculators should be supervised on ADMIXTURE, otherwise there will be ancestral components which are related very closely (see the Yakut's result, 60% NE Asia and 6.66% Siberia).
    mephisto
    isn't the calculator even if unsurpervised know to make a diffrence which allells
    go to {northeast europe group} and which one to {berberic ,arabic druze in my case }
    which allells to {caucasus group} and which one to {med group}
    all those population are very differnt from each other don't they ?

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    I think everybody have similar percentage of Uralic and Altaic. Compare it to your results or Yakut(!). Those two components need tuning. Tubalar and Tuvan (as Altaic) shouldn't show in British or French completely.


    0.05% Nasoic
    2.88% Uralic
    0.59% South-Amerindian
    11.26% North-Indian
    0.00% Central-African
    1.81% Altaic
    0.68% Kamchatkan
    2.37% Mediterranean
    0.31% Eskimoic
    0.18% Siberian
    37.23% Caucasian
    0.00% Amazonian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.07% East-African
    8.39% Druzian
    1.30% North-Amerindian
    4.53% Arabic
    0.00% Berberic
    1.05% Papuan
    23.06% Northeast-European
    0.00% Khomani-San
    0.00% Taiwanese-Aborigenal
    4.24% Kalash
    0.00% Northeast-Asian
    0.00% West-African
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    0.18% Nasoic
    1.70% Uralic
    0.02% South-Amerindian
    1.07% North-Indian
    0.00% Central-African
    1.95% Altaic
    0.00% Kamchatkan
    27.68% Mediterranean
    0.00% Eskimoic
    0.21% Siberian
    9.82% Caucasian
    0.57% Amazonian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    7.90% Druzian
    0.75% North-Amerindian
    0.19% Arabic
    2.13% Berberic
    1.13% Papuan
    41.37% Northeast-European
    0.00% Khomani-San
    0.00% Taiwanese-Aborigenal
    3.35% Kalash
    0.00% Northeast-Asian
    0.00% West-African
    Known ancestry - English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Croatian, Bosnian, Ashkenazi, Polish and Māori.


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    0.04% Nasoic
    1.61% Uralic
    0.63% South-Amerindian
    1.93% North-Indian
    0.19% Central-African
    0.77% Altaic
    0.00% Kamchatkan
    31.71% Mediterranean
    0.00% Eskimoic
    0.76% Siberian
    5.84% Caucasian
    0.64% Amazonian
    0.48% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    1.52% Druzian
    0.10% North-Amerindian
    2.05% Arabic
    0.73% Berberic
    0.07% Papuan
    46.32% Northeast-European
    0.00% Khomani-San
    0.03% Taiwanese-Aborigenal
    4.56% Kalash
    0.00% Northeast-Asian
    0.01% West-African


    Grandmother:
     
    0.34% Nasoic
    2.43% Uralic
    1.08% South-Amerindian
    2.13% North-Indian
    0.11% Central-African
    1.51% Altaic
    0.00% Kamchatkan
    29.06% Mediterranean
    0.00% Eskimoic
    0.59% Siberian
    9.21% Caucasian
    0.00% Amazonian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.84% Druzian
    0.69% North-Amerindian
    0.76% Arabic
    2.36% Berberic
    0.04% Papuan
    45.72% Northeast-European
    0.15% Khomani-San
    0.41% Taiwanese-Aborigenal
    2.57% Kalash
    0.00% Northeast-Asian
    0.00% West-African

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    0.24% Nasoic
    3.12% Uralic
    0.42% South-Amerindian
    2.19% North-Indian
    0.00% Central-African
    2.42% Altaic
    0.00% Kamchatkan
    30.17% Mediterranean
    0.00% Eskimoic
    0.00% Siberian
    7.70% Caucasian
    0.74% Amazonian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    5.89% Druzian
    0.02% North-Amerindian
    2.32% Arabic
    1.34% Berberic
    0.43% Papuan
    41.31% Northeast-European
    0.00% Khomani-San
    0.00% Taiwanese-Aborigenal
    1.68% Kalash
    0.00% Northeast-Asian
    0.00% West-African
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    North-Caucasian Avar sample

    I think everybody have similar percentage of Uralic and Altaic. Compare it to your results or Yakut(!). Those two components need tuning. Tubalar and Tuvan (as Altaic) shouldn't show in British or French completely.


    0.05% Nasoic
    2.88% Uralic
    0.59% South-Amerindian
    11.26% North-Indian
    0.00% Central-African
    1.81% Altaic
    0.68% Kamchatkan
    2.37% Mediterranean
    0.31% Eskimoic
    0.18% Siberian
    37.23% Caucasian
    0.00% Amazonian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.07% East-African
    8.39% Druzian
    1.30% North-Amerindian
    4.53% Arabic
    0.00% Berberic
    1.05% Papuan
    23.06% Northeast-European
    0.00% Khomani-San
    0.00% Taiwanese-Aborigenal
    4.24% Kalash
    0.00% Northeast-Asian
    0.00% West-African
    Look at the results of Lupus82. He has no Uralic (0%) and 0.92% of Altaic so I think it varies from person to person.
    Possibly due to tons of Russian samples used to create this calc the Uralic and Altaic may be higher than in the calculators based only on Lazaridis but still I think this values are reasonable and low.
    You can treat them as a noise or some common steppe ancestry that is present in almost all Northern Eurasians.

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