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    Do you mind giving me a run to see how I fare on this current spreadsheet?
    My genetics to the best of my knowledge consists of predominantly southern English (roughly 60%+), plus Ulster (Northern English/Lowland Scot) and Welsh ancestry, and possibly 12.5% Iberian.

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    My results with averages (not scaled), nMonte2:

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Czech Hungarian Slovakian Ukrainian
    0.01341786 0.01468472 0.01482861 0.01514171
    Croatian Polish German Russian_Kostroma
    0.01555347 0.01561174 0.01746808 0.01751163

    With moderns and ancients in the same run, it's a real mish-mash:

    Restricted:

    [1] "distance%=0.7847 / distance=0.007847"

    Russian_Tver 37.70
    Belarusian 13.30
    Alberstedt_LN 11.30
    LBKT_MN 9.10
    Lithuanian 8.65
    Srubnaya_outlier 7.60
    Norwegian 5.50
    Serbian 3.65
    CWC_Baltic_early 2.40
    Mari 0.80
    Poltavka_outlier 0.00
    Slovakian 0.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
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    I noticed this only after posting my own run. Did you use scaled averages? I used non-scaled ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garimund View Post
    Someone mind giving me a run through the nMontes?
    Same averages as in my run for myself, nMonte2:

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    England_Roman Orcadian Bell_Beaker_Germany
    0.01775841 0.01903570 0.01994200
    English Austrian Scottish
    0.02077394 0.02272852 0.02351764
    Irish Icelandic
    0.02355302 0.02408887

    Garimund, Restricted:

    Basque_French 43.75
    England_Roman 28.50
    Nordic_IA 17.05
    Comb_Ceramic 4.65
    Yakut 2.50
    CHG 1.95
    Lapita_Tonga 1.60
    Orcadian 0.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    In your case nMonte3 is more probable because is more western shifted and more inline with single distances
    It depends on how you look at it - I'm not Czech. So nMonte2 is just as probable. I'm West Polish and my results are very typical for Wielkopolska as you know. Western Poles are not descended from Southern groups such as Czechs, Hungarians or Slovaks, but rather a mix of Proto-Slavs plus local Pre-Slavs. So a mix of North-East Slavs (like Russian Tver) + something North-Western is a good model too.

    I will try runs with just moderns and just ancients instead of both groups mixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    Same averages as in my run for myself, nMonte2:

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    England_Roman Orcadian Bell_Beaker_Germany
    0.01775841 0.01903570 0.01994200
    English Austrian Scottish
    0.02077394 0.02272852 0.02351764
    Irish Icelandic
    0.02355302 0.02408887

    Garimund, Restricted:

    Basque_French 43.75
    England_Roman 28.50
    Nordic_IA 17.05
    Comb_Ceramic 4.65
    Yakut 2.50
    CHG 1.95
    Lapita_Tonga 1.60
    Orcadian 0.00
    French Basque @ 43.75, interesting.. I pull something southwest on almost every test, but that’s quite high.

    My overall matches appear very British Celt/Bell Beaker which is about in line with most other results.
    Last edited by Garimund; 02-13-2018 at 03:24 PM.
    My genetics to the best of my knowledge consists of predominantly southern English (roughly 60%+), plus Ulster (Northern English/Lowland Scot) and Welsh ancestry, and possibly 12.5% Iberian.

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    Generalissimo,

    Polish samples used in this Global 25 are from which region(s) of Poland?

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    My results with a selection of ancient populations (full list below):

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Alberstedt_LN Unetice Hungary_IA Nordic_IA
    0.02966513 0.03364113 0.03377780 0.03560983
    Battle_Axe_Sweden Halberstadt_LBA Srubnaya England_IA
    0.03567681 0.03632189 0.03831575 0.03856393

    [1] "distance%=1.2104 / distance=0.012104"

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    Baltic_BA 38.05
    Alberstedt_LN 13.65
    Minoan_Lasithi 10.15
    Srubnaya_outlier 8.90
    Vinca_MN 8.70
    Sintashta 8.60
    Ireland_EBA 4.40
    Nordic_IA 4.10
    Scythian_AldyBel 2.70
    Battle_Axe_Sweden 0.45
    England_Roman_outlier 0.30

    Altai_IA 0.00
    Anatolia_BA 0.00
    Anatolia_ChL 0.00
    Andronovo 0.00
    Andronovo_outlier 0.00
    Armenia_ChL 0.00
    Armenia_EBA 0.00
    Armenia_MLBA 0.00
    Balaton_Lasinja_CA 0.00
    Bell_Beaker_Germany 0.00
    CWC_Germany 0.00
    EHG 0.00
    England_IA 0.00
    England_Roman 0.00
    Halberstadt_LBA 0.00
    Hungary_BA 0.00
    Hungary_IA 0.00
    Iberia_BA 0.00
    Iberia_ChL 0.00
    Iran_ChL 0.00
    Iran_IA 0.00
    Levant_BA 0.00
    Mycenaean 0.00
    Narva_Estonia 0.00
    Narva_Lithuania 0.00
    Nordic_LN 0.00
    Portugal_LNCA 0.00
    Portugal_MBA 0.00
    Protoboleraz_LCA 0.00
    Remedello_BA 0.00
    Samara_Eneolithic 0.00
    Sarmatian_Pokrovka 0.00
    Scythian_Pazyryk 0.00
    Scythian_Samara 0.00
    Scythian_ZevakinoChilikta 0.00
    SHG 0.00
    Spain_LNCA 0.00
    Srubnaya 0.00
    Tiszapolgar_ECA 0.00
    Unetice 0.00

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    After adding Anglo-Saxons:

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Alberstedt_LN Unetice Hungary_IA
    0.02966513 0.03364113 0.03377780
    Nordic_IA Battle_Axe_Sweden Halberstadt_LBA
    0.03560983 0.03567681 0.03632189
    Srubnaya England_Anglo-Saxon
    0.03831575 0.03833953

    [1] "distance%=1.1709 / distance=0.011709"

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    Baltic_BA 38.85
    England_Anglo-Saxon 20.50
    Minoan_Lasithi 12.65
    Srubnaya_outlier 9.70
    Vinca_MN 7.80
    Scythian_AldyBel 5.25
    Sintashta 5.25

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    After adding Bohemian Slavs:

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    Slav_Bohemia Alberstedt_LN Unetice Hungary_IA
    0.01862686 0.02966513 0.03364113 0.03377780
    Nordic_IA Battle_Axe_Sweden Halberstadt_LBA Srubnaya
    0.03560983 0.03567681 0.03632189 0.03831575

    [1] "distance%=1.1534 / distance=0.011534"

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    Baltic_BA 33.15
    England_Anglo-Saxon 17.15
    Slav_Bohemia 13.65
    Srubnaya_outlier 9.20
    Minoan_Lasithi 8.55
    Vinca_MN 8.45
    Scythian_AldyBel 5.05
    Sintashta 3.75
    Alberstedt_LN 1.05
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    Will you run me through there?
    My genetics to the best of my knowledge consists of predominantly southern English (roughly 60%+), plus Ulster (Northern English/Lowland Scot) and Welsh ancestry, and possibly 12.5% Iberian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garimund View Post
    Will you run me through there?
    In closest single item distances, you get Roman era Insular Celts 1st, German Bell Beaker 2nd, then Unetice 3rd:

    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
    England_Roman Bell_Beaker_Germany Unetice
    0.01775841 0.01994200 0.02615537
    England_Anglo-Saxon Alberstedt_LN Nordic_IA
    0.02793547 0.02873621 0.02885464
    Ireland_EBA England_IA
    0.02957152 0.03223075

    And mixed mode, Celts + Nordic Vikings + Iberians, but not much of Anglo-Saxons it seems?:

    [1] "distance%=1.2338 / distance=0.012338"

    Garimund

    England_Roman 54.25
    Iberia_BA 18.05
    Nordic_IA 16.10
    Portugal_MBA 5.15
    Narva_Estonia 3.50
    England_Roman_outlier 2.00
    Anatolia_ChL 0.95

    Restricted:

    England_Roman 55.00
    Iberia_BA 18.30
    Nordic_IA 15.70
    Portugal_MBA 5.20
    Narva_Estonia 3.35
    England_Roman_outlier 2.45
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