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    Some H1 from Spain? in new paper of modern distributions

    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/...0.2017.1416909 posted by Rozenfield in New DNA papers (thanks again)

    The genetic landscape of Mediterranean North African populations through complete mtDNA sequences

    From a wider perspective, in their paper “The genetic landscape of Mediterranean North African populations through complete mtDNA sequences”, Font-Porterias et al. (2018 Font-Porterias N, Solé-Morata N, Serra-Vidal G, Bekada A, Fadhlaoui-Zid K, Zalloua P, Calafell F, Comas D. 2018. The genetic landscape of Mediterranean North African populations through complete mtDNA sequences. Ann Hum Biol 45:98–104.[Taylor & Francis Online], [Google Scholar]) report new complete mitogenome sequences of North-African individuals that are highly homogeneous and geographically well distributed in the whole North-African region, i.e. Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt. These sequences were analysed together with whole mitochondrial sequences from the same area reported in literature. The identified haplogroups (groups of sequences which share an identical set of mutations derived from a common ancestor) and the phylogenetic analysis performed underline the great genetic heterogeneity of the North-African populations due to their complex demographic histories and migrations out of Africa and back which involved population movements from the Near and Middle East, South-Sahara and Western Europe. In the complex, the great majority of North-African haplotypes (70%) belong to H, HV, R0, J, T, U and W haplogroups of Eurasian origin which were very likely introduced from Western Eurasia during the Paleolithic and the Neolithic; 20% are of South-Saharan origin (L) attributed to the recent Arabic slave trade, starting in the 7th century CE and characterised by trans-Saharan migrations; and the remaining 10% are rightly assigned to U6 and M1 haplogroups, considered North-African autochthonous and present in the region since Palaeolithic times. These results confirm previous data on North-African populations. The thorough analysis carried out on the available complete mtDNA sequences led to the identification of a novel mtDNA sub-haplogroup named H1v2, which originated approximately 4000 years ago through the dispersal of the Eurasian haplogroup, and could never have been detected based on the classical sequence of the hypervariable segment I (HVS-I). This sub-branch belongs to H1 haplogroup, the most frequent in Western Europe, which shows a clinal distribution east-westward. Its coalescence age is between 8000 and 9000 years in accordance with a dispersion from Iberia towards Africa during postglacial times. Afterwards, H1w, H1x and H1v subclades originated. The coalescence age estimation of the H1v sub-branch, comprising Berber sequences from Tunisia, Tuareg haplotypes from Libya, and the novel Mozabite mitochondrial lineage from Algeria, and possibly correlated to an ancient split of nomadic populations from North Africa, ranged from 1900 and 6100 years, in agreement with previous estimations.

    This is from the editorial to a special eition and the full paper is http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...eedAccess=true
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    Out of 64 pre 1800 births 45% Cheshire, 1% Irish (or Scottish), 25% south Derbyshire, 13% Burton on Trent area (where 4 counties within 10 miles), 7% Shropshire, 1% Staffs, 8% Lancs. So far all British Isles despite what some testing companies say.

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    Hello Judith !

    I'm Berber from the Atlas mountains. My mtDNA haplogroup is H. I didn't do a Full Sequence but I guess it's H1 or H3 as both of them have ancient presence in North Africa, as the study says, and as the majority of my mtDNA matches are whether H1 or H3.
    I can even be H1w, H1x or H1v since they were formed in North Africa after their arrival from Iberia. I will let you know as soon as I have my results.

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    If you try James licks calculator then you may get further. https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/
    Which company did you do the test with?
    Image “Westray wifie” replica of Neolithic figurine Hidden Content
    Out of 64 pre 1800 births 45% Cheshire, 1% Irish (or Scottish), 25% south Derbyshire, 13% Burton on Trent area (where 4 counties within 10 miles), 7% Shropshire, 1% Staffs, 8% Lancs. So far all British Isles despite what some testing companies say.

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    Yes, I am H1, NorthWestern Spain, Galician. I run the motor you added... results:

    Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

    1) H1bw
    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1bw:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 8478T 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:
    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1bw (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 8478T ⇨ H1bw ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D
    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(5): 263G 1438G 3010A 8478T 8860G
    Extras(13): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D
    Untested(3): 750 4769 15326


    2) H1ax
    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1ax:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5054C 7471T 8429T 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:
    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1ax (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 5054C 7471T 8429T ⇨ H1ax ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 8478T
    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(5): 263G 1438G 3010A 7471D 8860G
    Extras(14): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 8478T
    Untested(5): 750 4769 5054 8429 15326


    3) H1ax1
    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1ax1:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5054C 7471T 8429T 8860G 14861A 15326G
    HVR1:
    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1ax1 (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 5054C 7471T 8429T ⇨ H1ax ⇨ 14861A ⇨ H1ax1 ⇨ 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 8478T
    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(5): 263G 1438G 3010A 7471D 8860G
    Extras(14): 65D 191D 299I 459D 2074I 2156D 2405D 4317I 5537D 5752D 7471D 8281D 8286D 8478T
    No-Calls(1): 14861A
    Untested(5): 750 4769 5054 8429 15326
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    hello , i just used that program in my mother haplogroup H1aj1a and it come exactly same to your results , with a few more extra markers but almost the same interesting she is related to the Galician branch of people

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    h1aj1a, its very old haplogroup indeed i don't know how it reached the the modern world , but there is some reports that was prevalent in mountainous and isolated people like the basqkue people

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