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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    Bucha might be cognate with Pucha which is used by many castes in AP and Telangana. I see some place names in Nepal too.
    Is it found amongst kammas too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    Is it found amongst kammas too?
    Less compared to others
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    Found a very interesting video describing Rajputs:




    Aurora/Khatri:

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    We have discussed the heterogeneity of Gujarati Brahmins quite a few times. Regarding this, I stumbled upon this study report on the University of British Columbia Open Library:

    https://open.library.ubc.ca/cIRcle/c...tems/1.0101724

    "Changing patterns of family life in urban Gujarat: a study of twelve high-caste working women, by Marjorie Rodgers Wood, 1972"

    From page number 42. "Brahmin Jatis and Sects":

    "The Brahmins of Goozerat are believed to be subdivided into more castes than those of any other part of India" (Forbes, 1924: II, 233). Traditionally, it is said that there are eighty-four endogamous Brahmin communities in Gujarat, but attempts at enumerating them indicate the existence of well over one hundred. Not surprisingly, no two of the six Brahmin respondents in this study belong to the same endogamous unit...
    It would be very interesting to look at further Gujarati Brahmin samples. The ones on G25 are, unfortunately, not labelled with any sub-caste/sect information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laltota View Post
    https://metrosaga.com/21-kannada-wor...rth-karnataka/
    21 Kannada Words And How They Sound in South Karnataka V/S North Karnataka
    Chikkamma / Chikkappa V/s Kaaka/Kaaki
    Meaning: Uncle / Aunty
    Kaaka, Kaaki, Kakka, Kakki, Kaaku are the authentic North Karnataka synonym for South Karnataka’s Chikkamma and Chikkappa.

    https://www.quora.com/Why-some-peopl...nstead-of-appa
    Very interesting question. Not only do some people call their father as Anna, but in North Karnataka, people call their father as Kaka, which actually means uncle. My own father used to address my grandfather as Kaka or rather as Kakari. The ri just adds respect
    Likely Marathi influence

    kākā (काका).—m ( H) A paternal uncle. This meaning is rather that of the Hindustani word . In Marathi kākā is generally used as a respectful com- pellation for a paternal uncle, an elderly cousin, or other elderly male person. See vyāvahārika nāva. kākā māmā karaṇēṃ To address flatteringly or persuasively.
    https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/kaka#marathi

    Bombay Presidency

    At its greatest extent, the Bombay Presidency comprised the present-day state of Gujarat, the western two-thirds of Maharashtra state, including the regions of Konkan, Desh, and Kandesh, and northwestern Karnataka state of India;
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay...south_1909.jpg
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombay..._1956-1960.svg

    Seuna

    The Seuna, Sevuna, Gavli Kings or Yadavas of Devagiri (c. 1187–1317) was an Indian dynasty, which at its peak ruled a kingdom stretching from the Narmada river in the north to the Tungabhadra river in the south, in the western part of the Deccan region. Its territory included present-day Maharashtra, north Karnataka and parts of Madhya Pradesh, from its capital at Devagiri (present-day Daulatabad in modern Aurangabad district, Maharashtra).
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    Deshastha Brahmin


    The Deshastha Brahmins are equally distributed all through the state of Maharashtra, ranging from villages to urban areas.[63][a][64] In Karnataka, the Deshastha Brahmins are mostly concentrated in the districts of Bijapur, Dharwad, Gulbarga, Belgaum, Bidar, Raichur, Bellary, and Uttara Kannada.[65][66]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deshas...n#Demographics

    Matrimonial alliance between Kannada and Marathi Deshastha Brahmins

    https://www.quora.com/Do-Kannada-Des...astha-Brahmins

    Quora answer you mentioned has answered, he himself is a Deshasta and has relatives from Marathi Deshasta Brahmins.
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    Does anyone know why nawaz sharif and his family use the title of "mian"? isnt he kashmiri i have never heard of any other kashmiri's that use "mian" title?

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    Quote Originally Posted by karnalIroh View Post
    Does anyone know why nawaz sharif and his family use the title of "mian"? isnt he kashmiri i have never heard of any other kashmiri's that use "mian" title?
    Seems to be an adopted title not a bestowed one. Family has been settled in Punjab for several generations, similar to a alot of Punjabi families of Kashmiri descent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karnalIroh View Post
    Does anyone know why nawaz sharif and his family use the title of "mian"? isnt he kashmiri i have never heard of any other kashmiri's that use "mian" title?
    I had a conversation with someone from a prominent Arain family from Lahore once, he said its NOT an inherited title but something that was first used by his father, as the nouveau riche would do, when he gained prominent in the 60's, I think. It has now stuck to the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahuls77 View Post
    I had a conversation with someone from a prominent Arain family from Lahore once, he said its NOT an inherited title but something that was first used by his father, as the nouveau riche would do, when he gained prominent in the 60's, I think. It has now stuck to the family.
    i think it would make sense seeing the influence of arian people in lahore probably being the popular title got adopted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karnalIroh View Post
    i think it would make sense seeing the influence of arian people in lahore probably being the popular title got adopted.
    Yeah, as you gain prominence, and wealth, you tend to have options of people addressing you with any honorific of your choice. However in this case, the prominent Mian families of Lahore kind of resent that, I feel.

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