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    This is entirely anecdotal but currently I live in Taiwan and I can't help but notice how tall many of the locals are. It may be because I live in a very rich area but the idea that ethnically Chinese people are short has been disproven in my eyes. One of my neighbors has trouble walking into the elevator. It isn't like everyone in this area is tall but a large percentage of people appear to be over 6'3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    My own height is 185.42 cm or 6 foot 1 inch. Here's a height bell curve I found. I'm not sure what the source of its stats is, and I don't feel like hunting it down, so take it with whatever size grain of salt you feel is needed. It strikes me as probably fairly accurate.

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    I feel like that graph would have been made either when people were shorter, or perhaps with people all across the world. I'm 175cm and considered somewhat short and at best medium-short (not within the Jewish community, I'd be about average there, but comparing myself to natives in England at least).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    My own height is 185.42 cm or 6 foot 1 inch. Here's a height bell curve I found. I'm not sure what the source of its stats is, and I don't feel like hunting it down, so take it with whatever size grain of salt you feel is needed. It strikes me as probably fairly accurate.

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    I judge those bell curves by my own personal experience. At my height, I am taller than most other guys but still shorter than many of them. That's basically what I see reflected in the male bell curve above, so it strikes me as reasonably accurate.

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    I am 5'9 or 175cm, late 20s, and find myself often shorter than most other guys in my race and age group. 5'9 is supposedly the average height for men in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    My own height is 185.42 cm or 6 foot 1 inch. Here's a height bell curve I found. I'm not sure what the source of its stats is, and I don't feel like hunting it down, so take it with whatever size grain of salt you feel is needed. It strikes me as probably fairly accurate.

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    What country or region does the data represent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I judge those bell curves by my own personal experience. At my height, I am taller than most other guys but still shorter than many of them. That's basically what I see reflected in the male bell curve above, so it strikes me as reasonably accurate.
    The apex of the curve for men is 177 cm which calculates to 5 feet, 8 inches tall - Not an average height for men here in Virginia. I think.
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    It's a combination of nutrition and genetics, but as the Dutch have shown, nutrition is the initial kickstarter. People also can't grow indefinitely and the cut-off before health issues start to kick in is somewhere in the range of 1.95-2m if I'm not mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celt_?? View Post
    What country or region does the data represent?
    See this post.

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    I think I live in a city (half of them is beneath 30) with may be the tallest people in Europe. The average man in Groningen is about 185 cm.

    I guess this has partly a nurture explanation, the welfare has risen over the last hunderd year, soo good nutrition (lots of cheese and milk

    But it's also nature, because even in tiny Netherlands the North Dutch stay on average 2 cm longer than the South Dutch.

    So there is a genetic factor, lately there is much discussion about the corded roots of the Dutch Bell Beaker....has this also influenced the genotype for example genes for greater length?

    Anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    I think I live in a city (half of them is beneath 30) with may be the tallest people in Europe. The average man in Groningen is about 185 cm.

    I guess this has partly a nurture explanation, the welfare has risen over the last hunderd year, soo good nutrition (lots of cheese and milk

    But it's also nature, because even in tiny Netherlands the North Dutch stay on average 2 cm longer than the South Dutch.

    So there is a genetic factor, lately there is much discussion about the corded roots of the Dutch Bell Beaker....has this also influenced the genotype for example genes for greater length?

    Anyone?
    This is a good article on genetic height in Europe, although it doesn't go into specifics about the Dutch.
    http://mathii.github.io/review/2015/...ight-in-europe

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