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    About the L595(L2)

    Hello.
    My haplogroup is my L595.
    My ancestors is Turkmen who came to Anatolia from Central Asia in the 1600s.
    Do you have any information other than what is known about this sublcade?
    Thank you.

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    What test or tests on your Y DNA have you taken so far?
    yDNA: L1b2c L-SK1414 (Oxon/Berks at Generation 9)
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    Here are the results of the Y-DNA Haplogroup L project. L-L595 (confirmed and predicted) is the first category.

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    Hello.
    So far, I took the y-111 test after y-12 first. At present, there is a big-y product whose results have not been announced.

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    Pleased to meet you @Alparslan. We are looking forward to seeing your L-L595 result. An ancient, and incredibly interesting Y.
    yDNA: L1b2c L-SK1414 (Oxon/Berks at Generation 9)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlparslanSancar View Post
    Hello.
    My haplogroup is my L595.
    My ancestors is Turkmen who came to Anatolia from Central Asia in the 1600s.
    Do you have any information other than what is known about this sublcade?
    Thank you.
    Hello Alparslan. Do you happen to have some Balkan ancestry? Because the L2-L595 subclade of L is largely restricted to Europe.


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    Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_L-M20

    The subclade L2 (L-L595), while it is extremely rare, is seldom found outside Western Europe.
    L2 (L595)
    L-L595 is found only in Europe from Ireland, Iberian Peninsula and Sardinia to Eastern Europe and their highest frequency is found in Estonia,[Footnote 5] Scozzari 2001, Lappalainen 2008.
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    Y-DNA: R1b>L51>L151>P312>U152>L2>Z41150>DF90>FGC14641>FGC 32041; Nigde, Turkey
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    Maternal Y-DNA: R1a>Z93>Z94>Y40>YP294>YP4866; Razgrad, Bulgaria
    Father's mtDNA: T2b; Nigde, Turkey
    Paternal grandfather's mtDNA: H2a1; Nigde, Turkey
    Maternal grandfather's mtDNA: H5; Razgrad, Bulgaria
    Father's maternal Y-DNA: R1b>L51>L151>P312>U152>L2>Z41150>DF90>FGC14641>FGC 32041; Nigde, Turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur Dincer View Post
    Hello Alparslan. Do you happen to have some Balkan ancestry? Because the L2-L595 subclade of L is largely restricted to Europe.


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    Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_L-M20
    I've seen some possible examples on the east side of the Black Sea, I'll try to find the paper. I don't know who started the myth (quoted by everyone because Wikipedia says so) that the highest frequency is in Estonia, the papers referred to didn't test L595.

    Anyway, the results are just in so I need to do some checking on the positive SNPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarethH View Post
    I've seen some possible examples on the east side of the Black Sea, I'll try to find the paper.
    This paper by Balanovsky et al.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...pmid/21571925/
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...kmss-41079.pdf

    Two Shapsug samples (SHAP-120 and SHAP-249) are likely to be L-L595.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarethH View Post
    I don't know who started the myth (quoted by everyone because Wikipedia says so) that the highest frequency is in Estonia, the papers referred to didn't test L595.
    That finding is based on FTDNA lab results according to Wikipedia.

    This paper by Balanovsky et al.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...pmid/21571925/
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...kmss-41079.pdf

    Two Shapsug samples (SHAP-120 and SHAP-249) are likely to be L-L595.
    Those two Shapsug samples are also likely to be L1 (xM27, xM317, xM357).
    Last edited by Onur Dincer; 03-02-2018 at 02:55 PM.
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    mtDNA: X2e2a; Drama, Greece
    Maternal Y-DNA: R1a>Z93>Z94>Y40>YP294>YP4866; Razgrad, Bulgaria
    Father's mtDNA: T2b; Nigde, Turkey
    Paternal grandfather's mtDNA: H2a1; Nigde, Turkey
    Maternal grandfather's mtDNA: H5; Razgrad, Bulgaria
    Father's maternal Y-DNA: R1b>L51>L151>P312>U152>L2>Z41150>DF90>FGC14641>FGC 32041; Nigde, Turkey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur Dincer View Post
    That finding is based on FTDNA lab results according to Wikipedia.
    There are no kits from Estonia in the L Project. FTDNA don't release data other than where individual customers join projects and make their results public. So this assertion is unverifiable and contrary to Wikipedia guidelines.

    Those two Shapsug samples are also likely to be L1 (xM27, xM317, xM357).
    There are no confirmed L1s who don't belong to L1a or L1b. Why do you think the two Shapsugs are L1 rather than L2?

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