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    Haplogroup W1 but missing a marker - new subclade?

    Hi everyone,

    So I was assigned to haplogroup W1 by 23andme (after being assigned an L haplogroup by Wegene). After some investigation, I found out that both me and my mom are missing one of the defining markers for haplogroup W (15884) which explains the confusion on Wegene. I emailed Mark Wade from thecid.com and there is one known subclade of W that has reported having 15884G instead of 15884C, W1b1 found in Finland, however, I do not have the other markers for this particular subclade and have been unable to find anything on my situation. I have traced by maternal line back to colonial Virginia and then England.

    If anyone has any ideas about what's going on with my mtdna haplogroup, I would really appreciate some feedback.

    Here is what I get on James Lick's website:

    Markers found (shown as differences to rCRS):

    HVR2: 73G 263G
    CR: 1243C 1438G 2706G 3505G 5046A 5460A 7028T 7864T 8251A 8860G 8994A 11674T 11719A 11947G 12414C 12705T
    HVR1: 16223T 16292T

    1) W1

    Defining Markers for haplogroup W1:
    HVR2: 73G 189G 195C 204C 207A 263G
    CR: 709A 750G 1243C 1438G 2706G 3505G 4769G 5046A 5460A 7028T 7864T 8251A 8860G 8994A 11674T 11719A 11947G 12414C 12705T 14766T 15326G 15884C
    HVR1: 16223T 16292T

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup W1:
    H2a2a1(rCRS)263GH2a2a8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H21438GH2706G 7028THV ⇨ 14766T ⇨ R073G 11719AR12705T 16223TN ⇨ 189G 709A 5046A 11674T 12414CN2 ⇨ 195C 204C 207A 1243C 3505G 5460A 8251A 8994A 11947G 15884C 16292TW7864TW1

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(20): 73G 263G 1243C 1438G 2706G 3505G 5046A 5460A 7028T 7864T 8251A 8860G 8994A 11674T 11719A 11947G 12414C 12705T 16223T 16292T
    Mismatches(1): 15884G
    No-Calls(1): 207A
    Untested(8): 189 195 204 709 750 4769 14766 15326

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