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    It's official: Millennials run from 1981-1996

    Pew Research has officially announced that Millennials run from 1981-1996 and anyone 1997 onward, are post-Millennials. Apparently they don't get an official name yet though many call them Generation Z. It's a running question in my house because my son was born in the last 2 weeks of 1999. My son's graduating class is half 1999 and half 2000 and many were literally born at the Millennium. So, how are they not Millennials? Do you agree with Pew Research on this? Does it matter? I know it does to my kids but given all the bad press that Millennials get, I actually think my son is relieved, though I don't think the criticism is necessarily deserved. I was a Gen X and I definitely didn't think we deserved all the bad press we got. Here's the story:
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ned/386562002/

    Someone in the piece says that naming generations is a lot like astrology but couldn't that be significant in it's own right? I know when I see people talk astrology, they often rationalize how they fit the model and couldn't that be affecting how people act? Could naming a generation and giving it attributes be affecting the outcomes in subtle, or not so subtle, ways? I think it does, for better and for worse, even if the affect is marginal.
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    Naming generations is arbitrary even according to the original "conceptors" of generational theory (William Strauss and Neil Howe), but don't forget they divided each generation in two cohorts. For example, there is a big difference between a Gen Xer born in 1969 and one born in 1980. Their cultural landscape and outlook will be different. The first one will share characteristics of the Boomers and the later with the Millenials. It's a spectrum.

    I think 1981-1996 is alright, with the first cohort from 1981 to 1989, (the transition being the fall of the berlin wall or the Gulf war) then the second cohort from 1990 to 1997.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little bit View Post
    Could naming a generation and giving it attributes be affecting the outcomes in subtle, or not so subtle, ways? I think it does, for better and for worse, even if the affect is marginal.
    Fascinating idea. Look at how solid the idea of the Baby Boomers is. It certainly conjures a strong image in my mind. And I know I'm Gen X. I could certainly see how it could contribute to generational divides. People like to group and sort people. Then you name them and define the date ranges for inclusion and things get just a bit firmer. I wonder how you could do a study on how people react to situations when the groups are named and defined versus unnamed and undefined.

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    I think millenials are probably one of the few generations we could make a rather concrete division of. Those that grew up before internet and those who grew up with internet.

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    Tbh although I am a millennial I can see myself having more in common with Generation Z as they get older.

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    Naming generations as cohorts is used for the purpose of grouping similar people together so you know how to sell to them.
    It's a marketing construct.
    Politicians use it too, because they are trying to sell us policies.
    So Demographers have to join in as well.

    Marketers change cohort definitions when it suits them to do so.

    Sometimes these definitions mean something to historians.
    Sometimes they can be unhelpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saetro View Post
    Naming generations as cohorts is used for the purpose of grouping similar people together so you know how to sell to them.
    It's a marketing construct.
    Politicians use it too, because they are trying to sell us policies.
    So Demographers have to join in as well.

    Marketers change cohort definitions when it suits them to do so.

    Sometimes these definitions mean something to historians.
    Sometimes they can be unhelpful.
    The whole Generational theory of W. Strauss and N. Howe were adopted by marketers, politicians and advertisers but marketing was not the original intend of the authors.

    btw it's crazy that a lot of predictions by Strauss and Howe ended up being true.

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    I'm even older than the Boomers. I think my cohort is called the Silent Generation.

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    I can't see the logic of calling people Millennials if they were born before 2000. If the argument is it refers to people living in the new millennium then that applies to everyone still alive.
    Maybe it is to help people to feel "special" or not left out, bless 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimore1937 View Post
    I'm even older than the Boomers. I think my cohort is called the Silent Generation.
    The Silent generation are those who lived too young to participate to WWII but lived through it as an infant/child.

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