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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlus View Post
    Thanks! What does that 'i' indicate? In my case hovering over it shows - (=L-L1307*, L-Y44848).
    Looks like that you are Y44848 positive, but they have not placed you on that branch as yet.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-Y44848/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlus View Post
    There is a new sample (a Syrian individual) on Yfull, apparently with a pre L-1307 subclade!
    Attachment 40240
    Is there a South Korean sample there too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    Looks like that you are Y44848 positive, but they have not placed you on that branch as yet.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/L-Y44848/
    Yes, I checked with raw data browser. I am sharing just 2 SNPs within Y44848 subclade, probably a very early split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    Is there a South Korean sample there too?
    Yes, there is a new sample (beginning with 'SRS')from some study. Are those 'SRS' samples from some south korean paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlus View Post
    Yes, there is a new sample (beginning with 'SRS')from some study. Are those 'SRS' samples from some south korean paper?
    No the new SRS samples are from Turkey (but not necessarily of Turk ethnicity).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlus View Post
    There is a new sample (a Syrian individual) on Yfull, apparently with a pre L-1307 subclade!
    Attachment 40240
    That Syrian sample and the sample from the Turkish study have been placed under a new pre/para-L1307 subclade(Yfull live tree) with a large number of SNPs unique to them. Capture+_2021-06-11-00-20-56.png

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    In the live tree they have placed me under L1307* and removed the 2 SNPs, which I share with 2 Y44848 samples, from the Y44848 subclade.
    I guess this means that those are independently developed mutations rather than actual shared SNPs?
    I have no STR matches as of now, though manual verification of some STRs remains to be done.
    I have relatively higher number of novel SNPs (104 high quality ones), which probably makes it impossible for my subclade to be related to a relatively younger subclade (Y44848's age is estimated to be around 7900 ybp).
    What is the possible origin of my subclade? Is it a minor IVC lineage?

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    Capture+_2021-07-31-19-08-00.png
    Yfull has made a new subclade based on the 2 SNPs I share with those Bahraini samples. They have given an estimated age of 7800 ybp and estimated TMRCA of 4100ybp. This is probably one of the less successful bottlenecks under L1307.
    What can be said about its probable origin?

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