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Thread: Ancient DNA from North Africa (this time with formal stats)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govan View Post
    10 % Yamnaya-Samara , it shows North African Berbers not only descend from Iberian Neolithics , but also from Bell Beaker Iberians, making them some kind of old world preColombian Mestizos (for a funny comparison , not all accurate because Iberomaurisians were morphologically Caucasoid , of a different variety).
    The contrary happened actually, Proto-Beakers first went to Iberia from Morocco, then Beakers back-migrated into Morocco.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean-Pierre Daugas
    Circa 3700 B.C., the upper Middle Neolithic expanded over the entire area studied, with a pottery industry of the Proto-Bell-Beakers type. The final phase of the Middle Neolithic was a favorable environment for the birth of local metallurgy. At about 2700-2500 B.C., it participated in the emergence of the Iberic Bell-Beakers civilization which would return its products to Morocco.

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    No , it is outdated hypothesis. Bell Beakers appeared in Central Europe and had 60-70% or more Yamanaya(steppe) and R1b. Some Beakers tribes moved into Iberia with R1b and steppe admixture and moved into North Africa. We can see their legacy in uniparental marker, as RM269 was quite common ydna in the Guanches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govan View Post
    No , it is outdated hypothesis. Bell Beakers appeared in Central Europe and had 60-70% or more Yamanaya(steppe) and R1b. Some Beakers tribes moved into Iberia with R1b and steppe admixture and moved into North Africa. We can see their legacy in uniparental marker, as RM269 was quite common ydna in the Guanches.
    Radiocarbon datations aren't "hypotheses" but scientific facts. The Bell Beakers did not appear in Central Europe but in Iberia under the impetus of Moroccan Proto-Beakers.

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    Not this silly BB theory again, please, we're in 2018
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    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428. Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1680 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal
    mtDNA - H20. Maria Josefa de Almeida, b. circa 1750 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

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