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    Okay, BAM files for all of the samples from the Ancient Rome paper are now at European Nucleotide Archive, so I've downloaded the BAM files for R110 and R1286.

    After the great horizontal coverage of oll009, these two look a bit more sparse on the first few SNPs looked at so far. Of the I-DF29 SNPs, R110 is derived for CTS9857/V3772 with 1T read, no call for the rest. R1286 is no call for all I-DF29 level SNPs.

    For the larger branches of I-DF29, both are no call for Z58. R110 is ancestral (1A) for Z2336 / CTS6364, no call for Y2592 and Y2593 - R1286 is no call for all three I-Z2336 SNPs. For Z63, R110 is a no call at that position, but R1286 has an ambiguous call with both the derived and ancestral allele equally at Z63 - 1A and 1T, so it's read but not conclusive. Both are ancestral for Z140 - R110 has 1G, R1286 has 3G.

    I'll have a more in depth look later, but out with the family and then going to the football this afternoon.
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    Aha - R1286 is most likely I-P109. He's one-read derived with 1T for P109 itself, but that's strengthened by a good 4G read derived call for CTS11651/Z2338 upstream. So we can more confidently assign the earlier ambiguous Z63 to ancestral. R110 is not the same Y-lineage - he's ancestral for P109 (1C), as well as Z2337/CTS10028 (2T), Z2336/CTS6364 (1A).
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    Aha - R1286 is most likely I-P109. He's one-read derived with 1T for P109 itself, but that's strengthened by a good 4G read derived call for CTS11651/Z2338 upstream. So we can more confidently assign the earlier ambiguous Z63 to ancestral. R110 is not the same Y-lineage - he's ancestral for P109 (1C), as well as Z2337/CTS10028 (2T), Z2336/CTS6364 (1A).
    Excellent work and great to see these two on your Ancient DNA Samples Map already. Much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Excellent work and great to see these two on your Ancient DNA Samples Map already. Much appreciated.
    A little further down with S1286 from I-P109 - he's at least I-S14887.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Excellent work and great to see these two on your Ancient DNA Samples Map already. Much appreciated.
    Indeed! I was just going to go through the supplemental looking for the details on R1286 and then I clicked on Deadly’s map and it was all in there already. Nice!!!
    Paper Trail: 43.8% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
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    R110 is below Z63!

    R110; 400-600 AD; Crypta Balbi; Late Antiquity; I1-Z63>BY151>FGC81364>S2078>S2077>Y2245>Y7234

    No calls at Y7666 level, 7 ancestral SNPs at Y7663 level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    R110 is below Z63!

    R110; 400-600 AD; Crypta Balbi; Late Antiquity; I1-Z63>BY151>FGC81364>S2078>S2077>Y2245>Y7234

    No calls at Y7666 level, 7 ancestral SNPs at Y7663 level.
    Interesting, the Lombard CL63 is also I-Y2245.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    R110; 400-600 AD; Crypta Balbi; Late Antiquity; I1-Z63>BY151>FGC81364>S2078>S2077>Y2245>Y7234

    This was a tricky one, no calls at Z63, BY151 and FGC81364 levels, then FGC9506+ at S2078 level and Y4102/FGC9504+ at S2077 level. Then again no calls at Y2245 level, and then all 6 derived SNPs at Y7234 level:

    Y7234/FGC14479+ C>T (1 read)

    Y7235/FGC14480+ C>T (1 read)

    FT72052+ C>T (1 read)

    Y7510/FGC14490+ G>A (1 read)

    Y7511/FGC14485+ C>G (1 read)

    Y7239/FGC14497+ G>A (2 reads)

    No calls at Y7666 level, and 7 ancestral SNPs at Y7663 level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    A little further down with S1286 from I-P109 - he's at least I-S14887.
    R1286 should also be S14887>Y4115:

    Y4115/FGC13270+ A>T (1 read)

    He has only ancestral calls for all 6 downstream subclades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    More details:
    Nice work Pribislav - I had not dug down to far into R110, but it was quite clear he wasn't I-Z58 or I-Z2336.
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