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    Pribislav posted this in another thread, the paper isn't published and there's no pre-print or anything yet but it's part of some upcoming big study on Roman and Medieval age in Balkans and surrounds I guess. Apparently a few I1s have been found already in Serbia.

    Viminacium - 28 (labeled Serbia_Roman):

    E x 13 (L618 x 6; L618>V13 x 3; Z830 x 1; Z830>M123 x 1; Z1902 x 1; M96 x 1)

    G x 5 (PF3148 x 1; PF3148>L91 x 1; P303 x 1; L497 x 1; L497>Z1815 x 1)

    R1b x 3 (Z2103 x 1; U106 x 1; U152>L2>Z367 x 1)

    R1a x 2 (Z2124>Z2122 x 1; Z2124>Z2123 x 1)

    J x 2 (M304 x 1; L24 x 1)

    T x 1 (M184)

    I1 x 1 (M253)

    I2 x 1 (L596)


    Timacum Minus, Slog necropolis - 10 (labeled Serbia_Roman):

    E x 3 (M35 x 1; L618 x 1; L618>V13 x 1)

    J x 3 (M304 x 1; M410 x 1; M241 x 1)

    R1b x 2 (Z2103 x 1; Z2103>CTS1450 x 1)

    G x 1 (CTS342>FGC12126)

    I1 x 1 (Z58>CTS8647)


    Timacum Minus, Kuline necropolis - 5 (labeled Serbia_Early_Middle_Age):

    I2 x 2 (M423 x 2)

    E x 1 (L618)

    J x 1 (M304)

    R1b x 1 (P312>DF99)


    Lepenski Vir - 2:

    E x 1 (M35) - Serbia_Roman

    J x 1 (M102) - Serbia_Medieval


    Mediana - 2 (labeled Serbia_Gepid):

    G x 1 (P287)

    I1 x 1 (Z58>CTS8647)


    Gomolava - 1 (labeled Serbia_Medieval):

    I2 x 1 (M423>L621>CTS4002)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz View Post
    Pribislav posted this in another thread, the paper isn't published and there's no pre-print or anything yet but it's part of some upcoming big study on Roman and Medieval age in Balkans and surrounds I guess. Apparently a few I1s have been found already in Serbia.

    Viminacium - 28 (labeled Serbia_Roman):

    E x 13 (L618 x 6; L618>V13 x 3; Z830 x 1; Z830>M123 x 1; Z1902 x 1; M96 x 1)

    G x 5 (PF3148 x 1; PF3148>L91 x 1; P303 x 1; L497 x 1; L497>Z1815 x 1)

    R1b x 3 (Z2103 x 1; U106 x 1; U152>L2>Z367 x 1)

    R1a x 2 (Z2124>Z2122 x 1; Z2124>Z2123 x 1)

    J x 2 (M304 x 1; L24 x 1)

    T x 1 (M184)

    I1 x 1 (M253)

    I2 x 1 (L596)


    Timacum Minus, Slog necropolis - 10 (labeled Serbia_Roman):

    E x 3 (M35 x 1; L618 x 1; L618>V13 x 1)

    J x 3 (M304 x 1; M410 x 1; M241 x 1)

    R1b x 2 (Z2103 x 1; Z2103>CTS1450 x 1)

    G x 1 (CTS342>FGC12126)

    I1 x 1 (Z58>CTS8647)


    Timacum Minus, Kuline necropolis - 5 (labeled Serbia_Early_Middle_Age):

    I2 x 2 (M423 x 2)

    E x 1 (L618)

    J x 1 (M304)

    R1b x 1 (P312>DF99)


    Lepenski Vir - 2:

    E x 1 (M35) - Serbia_Roman

    J x 1 (M102) - Serbia_Medieval


    Mediana - 2 (labeled Serbia_Gepid):

    G x 1 (P287)

    I1 x 1 (Z58>CTS8647)


    Gomolava - 1 (labeled Serbia_Medieval):

    I2 x 1 (M423>L621>CTS4002)
    Thanks for the heads up Oz!

    I’ll have to check this thread out and see what the up coming paper is.

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post695643


    Edit: With some follow ups:

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post695698


    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post695709
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    Paper Trail: 42.25% English, 31.25% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French. Or: 86% British Isles, 6.25% German, 6.25% Italian & 1.5% French.
    LDNA(c): 86.3% British Isles (48.6% English, 37.7% Scottish & Irish), 7.8% NW Germanic, 5.9% Europe South (Aegean 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%)
    BigY 700: I1-Z140 >I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 620 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 765 AD) >FT80854 (circa 1650 AD).

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    Nice to see some more ancient I1, especially a Gepid. I hope we get more Gepid samples.

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    This sounded familiar - I thought Pribislav had mentioned these samples earlier in this ancient I1 thread so went back and checked - post #619 on page 62 in February https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post644012
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone Meadow View Post
    The Big Y is not in my hobby budget just yet, so instead I am ordering the I1 Z2535 SNP Pack to burrow down the subclade I already know I'm a member of.

    My surname is Clayton, which genealogists James Bellarts and Elaine Rowland have traced to Robert of Caudebec, Normandy, who was awarded Clayton Manor in Lancashire in NW England after the Battle of Hastings. The Claytons mainly lived in Lancashire and Yorkshire for several hundred years before appearing in Sussex (for non-British, the south of England) about 1500. My line emigrated to New Jersey, USA, in 1677.

    Robert was son of Hugh and grandson of Leofwine of Normandy. Both of the latter names are Germanic or Anglo Saxon in origin, but I don't know if they're considered Norman in particular.

    Hi, this is my first post on this forum. Pardon me for joining this thread very late, but I found it very useful and I’d like to tease out one aspect. Maybe it will be helpful for some of the other guests who are having trouble interpreting DNA test results.

    Stone Meadow’s post mentioned his ancestor Leofwine of Normandy. There is an online genealogy which lists Sir Thomas de Clayton born in England around the 1500s as a direct male descendent of his. By chance, Sir Thomas de Clayton appears as the ancestor of a 7-step match of mine in my FTDNA test. So I was excited to see this post because it potentially linked me to a known individual deep into the Middle Ages.

    My FTDNA Y-111 test says I am S1990. My documented direct male genealogy goes back to Ireland but hits a wall around the late 1700s. At the 111-marker level, FTDNA lists only one match for me – an exact match with someone of the same surname as me (King). There are no other matches listed, even at different steps. But at the 67-marker view many more matches appear, and one of those lists Sir Thomas de Clayton as his ancestor.

    FTDNA’s “TiP” says there is an 86 per cent chance of this person and I having a common ancestor within 16 generations (say 600 years?) and a 95 per cent chance within 20 generations (say 1000 years?). At first glance this would appear to suggest there’s a pretty good chance that I also am descended from Leofwine of Normandy.

    However, at the 67-marker level I have a number of closer contacts whose ancestors came from much further afield. These include a 5-step match with someone harking from Neumark in eastern Germany, and a couple of 6-step matches pointing to Sweden. This would tend to suggest that the King and Clayton lines join up further back than Leofwine.

    So my question is: based on all of this, can I probably trace my descent to Leofwine of Normandy, or have I misinterpreted the guidance on years to most recent common ancestor? Or is the fact that I am looking at 67-marker results rather than 111-marker results skewing my interpretation? Also, will I have to test at a higher level (say Y-700), or to put my results into other providers in order to understand this better?

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    I noticed that their is an article on National Geographic today referring to the Viking study. Does this mean we’re closer to being able to analyze the raw data to search for deeper SNP calls?


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    I-DF29: ool009 Skane, Sweden 1930-1750 BCE

    Z58, Z59, Z2041, Z2040, Z382, FGC24333

    S26361: VK532 Zealand, Denmark 200-375 CE

    S16414, FGC24354, FGC24357, FGC24356, S10350

    FGC75802/BY19383: VK446 Funen, Denmark 800-1050 CE

    Y125947, S21197, BY149414, BY188003, BY188570

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    I noticed that their is an article on National Geographic today referring to the Viking study. Does this mean we’re closer to being able to analyze the raw data to search for deeper SNP calls?


    https://api.nationalgeographic.com/d...-genetic-roots
    Yes - the paper has now been published (it's mentioned in the Ancient DNA section on Anthrogenica) and it's in Nature https://www.nature.com/articles/s415...XIvjHrJYtEAY_g

    BAM files are available at European Nucleotide Archive under project PRJEB37976 here https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB37976

    I'm downloading VK327's BAM file now. It's going really slow. Not sure if that's due to my internet connection or if ENA is getting a lot of traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    Yes - the paper has now been published (it's mentioned in the Ancient DNA section on Anthrogenica) and it's in Nature https://www.nature.com/articles/s415...XIvjHrJYtEAY_g

    BAM files are available at European Nucleotide Archive under project PRJEB37976 here https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/browser/view/PRJEB37976

    I'm downloading VK327's BAM file now. It's going really slow. Not sure if that's due to my internet connection or if ENA is getting a lot of traffic.

    Awesome! Looks like you’re going to be a busy man in the near future

    Any additional info you can provide on the two I-Z2041 samples (VK445 and VK446) and the two I-Z2040 samples (VK496 and VK521) would be much appreciated
    I-DF29: ool009 Skane, Sweden 1930-1750 BCE

    Z58, Z59, Z2041, Z2040, Z382, FGC24333

    S26361: VK532 Zealand, Denmark 200-375 CE

    S16414, FGC24354, FGC24357, FGC24356, S10350

    FGC75802/BY19383: VK446 Funen, Denmark 800-1050 CE

    Y125947, S21197, BY149414, BY188003, BY188570

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    Awesome! Looks like you’re going to be a busy man in the near future

    Any additional info you can provide on the two I-Z2041 samples (VK445 and VK446) and the two I-Z2040 samples (VK496 and VK521) would be much appreciated
    Ah yes - I am going to be busy man in the near future, but not with analyzing these BAM files. Big project on at my new workplace, and they pay me so that takes priority. I won't have much bandwidth to look at the majority of these anytime soon. I will get through them but my approach to analyzing BAM files is rather manual and as a result is slow. Pribislav seems to be able to this a lot quicker than I do and his analysis is always sound, so he will probably get to it before I do. My priority list is the I-Z140 samples first , then the I-P109 samples and then I'll get to your I-Z2041 and I-Z2040 samples. But don't expect anything from me anytime soon on those four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadly77 View Post
    Ah yes - I am going to be busy man in the near future, but not with analyzing these BAM files. Big project on at my new workplace, and they pay me so that takes priority. I won't have much bandwidth to look at the majority of these anytime soon. I will get through them but my approach to analyzing BAM files is rather manual and as a result is slow. Pribislav seems to be able to this a lot quicker than I do and his analysis is always sound, so he will probably get to it before I do. My priority list is the I-Z140 samples first , then the I-P109 samples and then I'll get to your I-Z2041 and I-Z2040 samples. But don't expect anything from me anytime soon on those four.

    No problem! I completely understand the prioritization. I’m actually in the process of downloading VK521 right now because it seems the most promising to me. The downloading process is quite slow and tedious. Any advice for how a layman should approach looking at these?
    I-DF29: ool009 Skane, Sweden 1930-1750 BCE

    Z58, Z59, Z2041, Z2040, Z382, FGC24333

    S26361: VK532 Zealand, Denmark 200-375 CE

    S16414, FGC24354, FGC24357, FGC24356, S10350

    FGC75802/BY19383: VK446 Funen, Denmark 800-1050 CE

    Y125947, S21197, BY149414, BY188003, BY188570

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