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    "White" in Native America, not admixed.

    This will be a thread disccusion about a little known fact about American Indians (Western Hemisphere people's)
    A little tribe in Northern Arizona that was totally isolated from the rest of the world until the the turn of the 20th century. Moqui, now known as Hopi.
    A description from the time period,

    (In appearance the Moquis resembles the Caucasian rather than the Mongolian race. The facial features are a cross between pleasant and severe, and in many instances the expression is that of an unusual intelligence. The complexion is a light red-brown, the teeth snow white, and hair "jet black", coarse and long.)
    End quote Dr. Oscar Loew "Popular Science Monthly" 1874

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    For the doubting Tomas's look at images of Adam Clark Vroman

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    But Hopi aren't "white". Their features are Caucasian, nothing more. Vroman picked the "whitest" to photograph. The Hopi Indian maiden in the village of Shonguapavi, ca.1901 picture certainly isn't pale.
    Last edited by Rolling; 03-18-2018 at 08:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolling View Post
    But Hopi aren't "white". Their features are Caucasian, nothing more. Vroman picked the "whitest" to photograph. The Hopi Indian maiden in the village of Shonguapavi, ca.1901 picture certainly isn't pale.
    "White" skin or "white" living?

    Our skin isn't understood by genetics yet, but I'll help them.
    Our skin is not pigmented, it's clear. The color you see is the tissue below, and the blood flowing within.
    And the amount of "sunburn" sustained. Our skin is thicker thus we have more capillaries to show the blood.
    the sun stains our skin. Without sun exposure it appears bluish green, or Olive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    "White" skin or "white" living?

    Our skin isn't understood by genetics yet, but I'll help them.
    Our skin is not pigmented, it's clear. The color you see is the tissue below, and the blood flowing within.
    And the amount of "sunburn" sustained. Our skin is thicker thus we have more capillaries to show the blood.
    the sun stains our skin. Without sun exposure it appears bluish green, or Olive.
    You're the one who called them "white", not me. So tell me, skin or living.

    Caucasian features doesn't equal "white", your reference
    The complexion is a light red-brown, the teeth snow white, and hair "jet black", coarse and long.) End quote Dr. Oscar Loew "Popular Science Monthly" 1874


    Btw, Vroman who photographed pale claimed Hopi. By far C.C. Pierce was a more authentic photographer.
    Last edited by Rolling; 03-18-2018 at 11:27 PM. Reason: added reference quote

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    Genetically the original Hopi people were/are very likely just like the rest of the indigenous inhabitants of the Americas...That is a mixture of ANE and ENA/East Eurasian ancestries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Genetically the original Hopi people were/are very likely just like the rest of the indigenous inhabitants of the Americas...That is a mixture of ANE and ENA/East Eurasian ancestries.
    I don't know about that, J1C5 Came from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolling View Post
    But Hopi aren't "white". Their features are Caucasian, nothing more. Vroman picked the "whitest" to photograph. The Hopi Indian maiden in the village of Shonguapavi, ca.1901 picture certainly isn't pale.
    Got any evidence in your detraction of Vroman?

    Features, Caucasian says so much even when you didn't mean it too.

    And what about the Chinese railroad worker introduction of DNA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    Got any evidence in your detraction of Vroman?
    I'll PM you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    Features, Caucasian says so much even when you didn't mean it too.
    Indeed. Caucasian applies to North African, Central Asians, West Asian & South Asian too. Reference says light red-brown skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    I don't know about that, J1C5 Came from there.
    J1C5?

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