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    Quote Originally Posted by Pappy View Post
    Got any evidence in your detraction of Vroman?

    Features, Caucasian says so much even when you didn't mean it too.

    And what about the Chinese railroad worker introduction of DNA?
    If you are looking to explore the Myths & Legends of European Explorers pre Columbus, I think from Europe there is a few.
    Certainly the Vikings had a camp in Newfoundland, and also in Greenland later being abandoned, it might have been feasible for them to have migrated down the Great lakes and into the Mid West from there.

    Also even from my own country we have a legend of a Prince Madoc who left Wales in 1170 and landed at Mobile Alabama. Then migrated up the rivers.

    Also there is an Irish legend of St Brendan, although its possible he landed in Iceland, or Shetlands or Orkney (impossible to say)

    But at least at the moment I do not think there is any DNA proof for the above.
    I always thought that the proof of any myths might lie in the DNA of the horses of Pre Columbus origin, if there is any?

    But from what I understand the Native American Tribes are against any DNA of their ancestors at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolling View Post
    I'll PM you.

    Indeed. Caucasian applies to North African, Central Asians, West Asian & South Asian too. Reference says light red-brown skin.
    I don't need you to harass me by PM mmkay?

    We're born "white" and our skin develops color over time and sun exposure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgdavies@hotmail.com View Post
    If you are looking to explore the Myths & Legends of European Explorers pre Columbus, I think from Europe there is a few.
    Certainly the Vikings had a camp in Newfoundland, and also in Greenland later being abandoned, it might have been feasible for them to have migrated down the Great lakes and into the Mid West from there.

    Also even from my own country we have a legend of a Prince Madoc who left Wales in 1170 and landed at Mobile Alabama. Then migrated up the rivers.

    Also there is an Irish legend of St Brendan, although its possible he landed in Iceland, or Shetlands or Orkney (impossible to say)

    But at least at the moment I do not think there is any DNA proof for the above.
    I always thought that the proof of any myths might lie in the DNA of the horses of Pre Columbus origin, if there is any?

    But from what I understand the Native American Tribes are against any DNA of their ancestors at least.
    The OCA2 variant is over represented in this tribe, in fact the entire southwest is covered with it.

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    What just happened here? I have never seen any full Natives that looked white. Dear god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yelmex View Post
    What just happened here? I have never seen any full Natives that looked white. Dear god.
    The two prime movers in this thread have been banned, so, yeah.

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    Hopi Natives Look rather asiatic to me




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    They don't look white to me.

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    Some full-blooded Native Americans have Caucasoid features. This could stem from a genetic link with the Ainu who sometimes look Caucasoid, or it could be one of those quirks of genetic recombination. It does not mean they are "white".
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    Wouldn't those features stem from ANE ancestry most likely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mildlycurly View Post
    Some full-blooded Native Americans have Caucasoid features. This could stem from a genetic link with the Ainu who sometimes look Caucasoid, or it could be one of those quirks of genetic recombination. It does not mean they are "white".
    Yeah, stronger jaw lines, thinner and longer noses are the features that confuse people.

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