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Thread: Y-DNA of Roman Soldier FN2 buried in Germany

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    Y-DNA of Roman Soldier FN2 buried in Germany

    Roman Soldier FN2 buried in Germany in Veeramah et al. 2018 didn't have the Y-DNA SNPs listed in the study, as far as I could tell, so I went ahead and downloaded the BAM file from here then I ran it through the BAM Analysis Kit. If the results are correct, which they seem to be since the results don't seem illogical, then he is positive for G-L43 and everything directly upstream and negative for everything downstream from G-L43 that he was tested for that was in the Ybrowse snps_hg19.csv file from 2017-12-17 that I compared the positions to.

    Here are some of what was reported. The full SNP results are attached in a spreadsheet here. Are there any G-L43 experts that can take a look and determine which subclades weren't tested or were tested but don't have a name in the spreadsheet? The filters can be changed to show tested positions without a longhand name or associated shorthand SNP.

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    hg19 position genotype SNP and synonyms Result Ancestral Derived 2017 Longhand Haplogroup
    13646167 T Z735 + C T G2a2b2a1a1b1
    17234236 G S19395/Z6380 + T G G2a2b2a1a1b1
    17234258 T CTS7012 + A T G2a2b2a1a1b1
    22784020 C Z1900 + T C G2a2b2a1a1b1
    2816687 C Z3035 + T C G2a2b2a1a1b1
    6979140 G CTS730 + C G G2a2b2a1a1b1
    8341813 G Z729 + T G G2a2b2a1a1b1
    14748116 A Z741/CTS3226 + C A G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    16009691 C Z745/CTS5089 + T C G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    16471001 G Z1819/CTS5762 + C G G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    16837337 G Z1817 + C G G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    18156635 A Z752/CTS8701 + C A G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    21304697 C Z6900 + A C G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    7550025 G Z727 + A G G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    7844120 G Z3195 + C G G2a2b2a1a1b1a
    14370143 T Z30640 + C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a1
    17937365 G L43/S147 + A G G2a2b2a1a1b1a1
    23631793 G Y10621/Z30642 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a
    9848214 T Y11074/Z30641 - T C G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a
    17353144 C YSC0000033 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a1a1b
    15474070 T Z17783 - T C G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a1c
    9816131 A Z17780 - A T G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a1c
    6755279 G S2786/AMM490.1 - G T G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a2a1c1a
    23592051 G F3484.2 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a2a2a
    17437224 A CTS7357 - A G G2a2b2a1a1b1a1a3
    14871922 T Z16771/Y14681 - T C G2a2b2a1a1b1a1b2b1
    16351365 A Y14326/Z16773 - A G G2a2b2a1a1b1a1b2b1
    17106280 G Z17394/Y14683 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a1b2b1
    7690970 T Z16770 - T C G2a2b2a1a1b1a1b2b1
    23559310 C M10375 - C G G2a2b2a1a1b1a1b2b1a2
    16201203 A M4977 - A G G2a2b2a1a1b1a1b2b1d~
    16571728 C M10506 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a1b2b1e~
    17111777 T Z726/CTS6796 - T C G2a2b2a1a1b1a2
    15833180 G CTS4803 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a
    19431505 C CTS10391 - C G G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1a
    21690692 A S23438 - A G G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1a
    16767022 G S18765 - G T G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1a2
    6964003 C CTS702 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1a5~
    7037735 G CTS826 - G C G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1a5~
    16407298 G S2796 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1d~
    17237855 C S2798 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1d~
    2883881 G S2784 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1d~
    7216816 G S2788 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a1d2~
    17533255 G M2226/CTS7551/L667 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a6~
    14097558 G F1694 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a7~
    2735219 G F720 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2a8~
    17341707 C Z16775 - C A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2b
    13936849 G Z6383 - G T G2a2b2a1a1b1a2c~
    15261567 T Z6385 - T A G2a2b2a1a1b1a2c~
    16970203 T Z6386 - T G G2a2b2a1a1b1a2c~
    18198733 T Z6031 - T C G2a2b2a1a1b1a2c~
    6885921 C Z6152 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a2c~
    7017280 C Z6151 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a2c~
    15897972 C Z6750/FGC499 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a3
    15097650 C CTS3664 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a6~
    6973218 C CTS718 - C T G2a2b2a1a1b1a6~
    15034018 G S16691 - G T G2a2b2a1a1b1b
    22753244 G S24652 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1b
    7653602 G S10458 - G A G2a2b2a1a1b1b

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    Right after posting that I realized I hadn't checked for L42. He shows to be positive for that too. It's in the spreadsheet but doesn't have a longhand name which is why I had missed it.
    Last edited by ArmandoR1b; 03-19-2018 at 01:47 AM.

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    He is negative for Z30641 and for Z30642

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    He is negative for Z30641 and for Z30642
    I know they're downstream of those two, but could you also check Z41202 and YSC0000033 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I know they're downstream of those two, but could you also check Z41202 and YSC0000033 ?
    Thanks. Negative for YSC0000033. Z41202 is hg19 position 19005035 which isn't showing in the results even without the SNP name or longhand name.

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    Hmm can anyone take a look at some of the Bavari males to see if they are U106 or P312 - I'd bet the guys with Northern ancestry are more likely to be U106 or R1a etc... if you can in fact get Y-SNP reads from the bam file...
    Y-DNA: 5th GGF Capt. Johann Martin Weber, 1st PA Rifles, Rev. War, b. 1739 in Germany, d. 1804 Paxton, PA. : R1b-U106-DF98 - S4004 - FGC14817(5 SNPs) with 6drif-3 soldier of York! Pennsylvania Scots Irish/German frontiersmen/colonial vets.

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget O'Danagher/O'Kennedy/MacEgan, Lorrha/Dorrha, Tipp - T2b2b. Mother's dad The O'Dwyer - O'Dwyers of Kilnamanagh/Ballagh Maguires/Fermanagh matching descendants of Irish exiles in Europe.

    Hebridean/Highland Scots both sides ;-).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollox79 View Post
    Hmm can anyone take a look at some of the Bavari males to see if they are U106 or P312 - I'd bet the guys with Northern ancestry are more likely to be U106 or R1a etc... if you can in fact get Y-SNP reads from the bam file...
    It will have to be someone other than myself due to the download and conversion times with my setup.

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    I can't see L42 in the spreadsheet...

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    I'm starting to check STr_486.

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    STR_486

    I leave only longest subcladed. Mostly likely E1.

    # Mutation ISOGG-Y-Haplogroup
    CTS2518/Z889 = E1a2a1a1
    L495.2/Z2788.2 = D1b2a
    L665 = N1c2b2
    L8M310/PF2402 = E1b1b1b1
    PF2276/Z1237 = E1b1b1a1a2
    Y1221 = Q1b2
    Z889/CTS2518 = E1a2a1a1
    Z1237/PF2276 = E1b1b1a1a2

    all https://drive.google.com/open?id=12m...v67SJwbO1vHYRA

    Y_STR
    DYS438 = 10
    DYS441 = 17
    DYS607 = 18
    DYS425 = 13

    Y-SNPS all

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WL...-1aqVfYIffTnNM


    I don't trust Bam Analysis Kit too much...

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