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Thread: Unexpected R1b

  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    Hello guys!

    The SNP pack came back with the result:

    R-Z251

    Where did it originate and with what culture? How could it have gotten into Siberia. Is it worth to take the Z251 SNP pack. Are there any distribution maps for Z251. What ethnicities or subethnicites this clade is most popular among.
    Z251 forms a very large subclade or subdivision of L21, which is one of the primary branches of R1b-P312, the most common haplogroup in western Europe. A quick check shows that Z251 is found in much of Europe, principally Britain, but there is a smaller further branch of Z251 found in Belarus and Ukraine. My guess is that he is likely to be part of that particular branch.

    I suggest you join him to the R-P312 and R-L21 Projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenHind View Post
    Z251 forms a very large subclade or subdivision of L21, which is one of the primary branches of R1b-P312, the most common haplogroup in western Europe. A quick check shows that Z251 is found in much of Europe, principally Britain, but there is a smaller further branch of Z251 found in Belarus and Ukraine. My guess is that he is likely to be part of that particular branch.

    I suggest you join him to the R-P312 and R-L21 Projects.
    He seems to be outside of that eastern European group. Neither he is in the levite group.
    Z251 SNP pack results finally arrived. He is positive for Z17662 branch while all downstream of that SNP are tested negative. All Z17622 from the project are either Irish or Scottish, like his Y12 matches.

    Mystery

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z17662/
    Last edited by Aha; 08-28-2018 at 09:13 AM.
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    > R1b1a1b1a1a2c1a1e R-L21 > Z251 > Z17662
    >> R1a1a1b1a2a1a1a1j1 R-Z92 > YP1696
    mtDNA H10a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aha View Post
    He seems to be outside of that eastern European group. Neither he is in the levite group.
    Z251 SNP pack results finally arrived. He is positive for Z17662 branch while all downstream of that SNP are tested negative. All Z17622 from the project are either Irish or Scottish, like his Y12 matches.

    Mystery

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z17662/
    Here is similar information on Alex's BigTree:

    http://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php...479&star=false

    If you click the block it gives you a median age estimate of 1258 B.C.

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    L-617 in Lithuania

    I'm L-617 which Is the same as finding a three-legged man in Lithuania. Have never had more than a 12 marker Y match.

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