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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
    Regions of Ancestry
    West Africa - East Africa - North Africa - Levant - Arabia - Southern Europe - South Asia - Oceania - Northern Europe - Asia East

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    Me:

    29.85% Mediterranean
    1.15% Mozabite
    1.79% Arabia
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.02% Omotic
    0.78% Arctic
    0.00% E_Asia
    0.00% Khomani
    51.36% Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    0.02% S_Asia
    13.27% Caucasus
    1.39% Siberia
    0.38% E_Africa
    0.00% SE_Asia

    Dad:

    28.89% Mediterranean
    2.43% Mozabite
    0.90% Arabia
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% Omotic
    0.46% Arctic
    0.00% E_Asia
    0.01% Khomani
    50.84% Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    0.47% S_Asia
    13.17% Caucasus
    2.50% Siberia
    0.34% E_Africa
    0.00% SE_Asia

    Mom:

    27.98% Mediterranean
    1.43% Mozabite
    0.02% Arabia
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.40% Omotic
    0.61% Arctic
    0.00% E_Asia
    0.00% Khomani
    54.81% Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    1.97% S_Asia
    12.66% Caucasus
    0.00% Siberia
    0.12% E_Africa
    0.00% SE_Asia

    Wife:

    26.14% Mediterranean
    1.81% Mozabite
    1.33% Arabia
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.38% Omotic
    0.41% Arctic
    0.00% E_Asia
    0.03% Khomani
    55.51% Europe
    0.01% Papuan
    0.01% S_Asia
    13.45% Caucasus
    0.92% Siberia
    0.00% E_Africa
    0.00% SE_Asia

    Father in law:

    26.03% Mediterranean
    2.71% Mozabite
    1.17% Arabia
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.36% Omotic
    0.89% Arctic
    0.42% E_Asia
    0.00% Khomani
    54.68% Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    0.90% S_Asia
    12.17% Caucasus
    0.34% Siberia
    0.30% E_Africa
    0.03% SE_Asia

    I like the tweaks/adjustments.

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    My Results:

    0.00% Mediterranean
    1.14% Mozabite
    0.00% Arabia
    41.26% W_Africa
    9.22% Omotic

    0.14% Arctic
    0.06% E_Asia
    6.59% Khomani
    0.00% Europe
    0.70% Papuan
    0.80% S_Asia
    0.00% Caucasus
    0.00% Siberia
    39.95% E_Africa
    0.13% SE_Asia

    Nice work Mephisto!

    The re-calibration of Dinka for E_Africa has done wonders -- they're the golden standard

    I'm curious to see how the Hadza might appear. Given the lack of an E_HG cluster, I'm guessing their Omotic will be substantial. I think that's where my usual tinge of E_HG got dumped.
    I'll run some African samples tomorrow and see if anything interesting pops up
    PuntDNAL K8
    Population: Hidden Content 46.16, Ubangian_Congo 9.56, W_Benue_Congo 24.21, Eastern_HG 2.09, E_Benue_Congo 12.94, Omotic 5.05
    Single Population Sharing: Hidden Content 14.17, Hidden Content 17.26, South_Sudanese 25.21, South_Sudan_Anuak 25.65, Cameroon_Mada 28.57, Ethiopian_Gumuz 33.91, Kenyan_Maasai 36.07, Kenyan_Bantu 38.05, Chad_Kaba 40.04, DRC_Hema 42.08, Kenyan_Luhya 46.64

    The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it - Hidden Content

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    The reference population for Europe should be Lithuanians only since they carry the highest WHG, EHG. The rest of Europeans are more Near Eastern-Neolithic shifted.
    Mozabites should be deleted since they're a mixture of West African, Mediterranean and SW Asian and I don't see any North African members who captures it fully.
    The Mediterranean reference could be Neolithic Farmer kits from Anatolia or Stuttgart, Greece Neolithic

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    Quote Originally Posted by giorgio View Post
    The reference population for Europe should be Lithuanians only since they carry the highest WHG, EHG. The rest of Europeans are more Near Eastern-Neolithic shifted.
    Mozabites should be deleted since they're a mixture of West African, Mediterranean and SW Asian and I don't see any North African members who captures it fully.
    The Mediterranean reference could be Neolithic Farmer kits from Anatolia or Stuttgart, Greece Neolithic
    Could you run your raw data and post your results, please?

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    26.48% Mediterranean
    1.81% Mozabite
    2.14% Arabia
    0.05% W_Africa
    0.60% Omotic
    0.39% Arctic
    0.00% E_Asia
    0.00% Khomani
    51.03% Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    2.17% S_Asia
    14.46% Caucasus
    0.56% Siberia
    0.31% E_Africa
    0.00% SE_Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by giorgio View Post
    The reference population for Europe should be Lithuanians only since they carry the highest WHG, EHG. The rest of Europeans are more Near Eastern-Neolithic shifted.
    Mozabites should be deleted since they're a mixture of West African, Mediterranean and SW Asian and I don't see any North African members who captures it fully.
    The Mediterranean reference could be Neolithic Farmer kits from Anatolia or Stuttgart, Greece Neolithic
    I mentioned it already many times: in an unsupervised ADMIXTURE run no samples are assigned manually. Only the number of ancestral components is chosen (in this case K=15). The ADMIXTURE manual is very nicely written, I really recommend reading it to understand what this notorious ADMIXTURE program is for. If you would have given a look at the barplot of the newest version of this calculator you would have seen that the "Europe" component even peaks with ~90% in a Lithuanian and another Estonian sample, so ADMIXTURE itself centered the "Europe" ancestral component already around Lithuanians. However, since this is a calculator on modern samples, I do not see the relevance of Lithuanians having the highest WHG and EHG. The Mozabite component surely will not be deleted, Mozabites are enough divergent from any other population (and/or ancestral component) that they always get an own ancestral component assigned by ADMIXTURE itself. Again you can see that some Mozabites score 99% of their ancestral component (and consider that this in an unsupervised ADMIX. run). Nobody will score 100% of any component if the person wasn't part of the dataset, so your argument that it does "not capture it fully" is not valid (despite the scores for NAs still being very high). The so called Mediterranean component is usually based on Sardinians, they have a lot of Anatolia N. ancestry.
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    The results of WHG-Villabruna:
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     19.18%  Mediterranean       
      0.00%  Mozabite            
      0.00%  Arabia              
      1.77%  W_Africa            
      0.00%  Omotic              
      0.00%  Arctic              
      0.00%  E_Asia              
      0.55%  Khomani             
     74.20%  Europe              
      0.15%  Papuan              
      0.00%  S_Asia              
      0.00%  Caucasus            
      0.73%  Siberia             
      1.53%  E_Africa            
      1.89%  SE_Asia 

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    I just tried this out, interesting calculator! My results (sorted):

    56.08% Europe
    26.24% Mediterranean
    7.26% Balochi
    5.13% Caucasus
    1.75% Yakut
    1.03% ME_broad
    0.74% Arabian_Pen
    0.70% Papuan
    0.69% Bedouin
    0.25% E_African
    0.09% E_Asia
    0.06% Mozabite
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% Med_broad
    0.00% Khomani

    Updated Version (Sorted):

    58.98% Europe
    25.12% Mediterranean
    9.71% Caucasus
    2.42% S_Asia
    2.11% Arctic
    0.57% Papuan
    0.38% Mozabite
    0.30% Omotic
    0.24% Arabia
    0.20% E_Africa
    0.00% W_Africa
    0.00% Siberia
    0.00% SE_Asia
    0.00% Khomani
    0.00% E_Asia
    Last edited by Ais; 04-23-2018 at 12:53 AM. Reason: Updated with new version

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    My results (final):
    24.44% Mediterranean
    5.97% Mozabite
    8.72% Arabia
    0.08% W_Africa
    0.79% Omotic
    0.00% Arctic
    0.01% E_Asia
    0.23% Khomani
    26.64% Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    3.41% S_Asia
    27.43% Caucasus
    1.70% Siberia
    0.58% E_Africa
    0.00% SE_Asia


    My dad (final):
    24.41% Mediterranean
    8.25% Mozabite
    8.20% Arabia
    0.00% W_Africa
    1.34% Omotic
    0.23% Arctic
    0.37% E_Asia
    0.00% Khomani
    28.47% Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    0.01% S_Asia
    25.55% Caucasus
    2.37% Siberia
    0.81% E_Africa
    0.00% SE_Asia


    Me (v2)
    0.00% Khomani
    0.46% Siberia
    2.96% S_Asia
    23.35% NW_Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    30.47% S_Near_East
    11.50% Mediterranean

    0.00% SE_Asia
    0.00% E_Asia
    0.05% W_Africa
    2.99% Mozabite
    6.34% E_Europe
    21.25% Caucasus
    0.62% Omotic
    0.00% Dinka


    My dad (v2)
    0.00% Khomani
    1.52% Siberia
    0.00% S_Asia
    19.03% NW_Europe
    0.00% Papuan
    27.39% S_Near_East
    12.52% Mediterranean
    0.00% SE_Asia
    0.02% E_Asia
    0.00% W_Africa
    6.21% Mozabite
    11.74% E_Europe
    20.58% Caucasus
    0.98% Omotic
    0.00% Dinka
    Last edited by jonahst; 05-17-2018 at 12:50 AM.

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