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    Sapporo's Living DNA Results

    Since the other thread was already full of too much data and charts and Living DNA provided a lot of nice cool stuff to screenshot, I'm starting a separate thread.

    I'll start with my haplogroups;

    Paternal Line:



    - outdated data from 2002, 2003 and 2006.



    - Sampling ignores more recent data from North/Northwest India and Pamirs. Distribution and data from Turkey, Chechnya and Europe are not included all together. The Tamil Nadu and Dravidian data is concentrated almost entirely on Tamil Kallars. Actual L data on South Asia can be found here:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-DNA_..._of_South_Asia

    It does not include the 2017 Mahal Jatt study.


    Phylogenetic Tree:

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    Last edited by Sapporo; 04-05-2018 at 02:00 PM.

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    Maternal Line:



    HV Heat Map:



    note: This data is just pulled from a few academic studies and does not necessarily represent accurate heat maps and is for HV overall. Not HV2 or HV2a3 in particular.


    Phylogenetic Tree:

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    Ancestry Composition:







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    Could you kindly upload onto Gedmatch genesis and then run some of the ancestry calculators, thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by jortita View Post
    Could you kindly upload onto Gedmatch genesis and then run some of the ancestry calculators, thank you
    Just uploaded it. I can run a few but apparently LivingDNA tends to have worse overlap with GEDMatch and other DIY R-based calculators than even 23andMe V5, which I plan to do so shortly since both my parents are on V5.

    Are you looking for any calculator in particular?

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    Please feel free to post on this thread, https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....uropean-person

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    Their Ancestry Comp already looks worlds superior to other companies for South Asians. That's an impressive level of Y-DNA tree placement too. That would have required custom SNP ordering or a NGS test otherwise. This dates your line to 1400 BCE which is amazing. https://yfull.com/tree/L/

    A lot of J2b people are getting tested on the South Asian side and in spite of that I'm still at like 4900 BCE, lol, and the lowest is 4400 BCE. My mom's R1a-L657 is down to 1000 BCE on YFull, shared by someone from UAE and another Pakistani Punjabi.

    Have any other L-M357 Jatts gotten tests for further down the tree?
    Last edited by Dr_McNinja; 04-05-2018 at 05:44 PM.
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494) (FTDNA Kit 311047), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29) (FTDNA Kit 329181))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Their Ancestry Comp already looks worlds superior to other companies for South Asians. That's an impressive level of Y-DNA tree placement too. That would have required custom SNP ordering or a NGS test otherwise. This dates your line to 1400 BCE which is amazing. https://yfull.com/tree/L/

    A lot of J2b people are getting tested on the South Asian side and in spite of that I'm still at like 4900 BCE, lol, and the lowest is 4400 BCE. My mom's R1a-L657 is down to 1000 BCE on YFull, shared by someone from UAE and another Pakistani Punjabi.

    Have any other L-M357 Jatts gotten tests for further down the tree?
    His Y-DNA TMRCA is the same period as the Indo-Aryan expansion in SA

    I am L-M27 which I believe came earlier and might coincide with the same timeline as your J line given how intricately linked L and pre-Shi'a/Iranian J lines are in SA

    J2b from the latest paper, any of these your clades?:

    I1931 J2b1a2 .. Dali_MLBA 1495-1300 calBCE (313030 BP, Beta-391198) Kazakhstan
    I4241 K1a3a J2b Hajji_Firuz_C 6016-5899 calBCE (708030 BP, PSUAMS-2163) Iran
    I4349 U1a4 J2b Hajji_Firuz_C 5887-5724 calBCE (691540 BP, PSUAMS-2126) Iran
    I4318 J2b1a2 .. Kairan_MLBA 1767-1658 calBCE (341520 BP, PSUAMS-2961) Kazakhstan
    I0982 J2b1d .. Sintashta_MLBA 2050-1650 BCE [based on 12 directly dates samples] Russia
    I1020 J2b1 R1b1a1a2a2 Sintashta_MLBA_o2 2012-1774 calBCE (355531 BP, OxA-12533) Russia
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    Impressive results. The Y results were good. I did a Big Y and went onto Y full tree and Living DNA had me very close to my terminal snp.

    My breakdown. Similar to yours.

    Asia (South) 80.2%
    Sindh 38.9%
    Indian subcontinent 34.1%
    Pashtun 5.9%
    Burusho 1.3%

    Near East 12.3%
    North Turkey 7.5%
    Armenia and Cyprus 3.5%
    Kurdish 1.3%

    Europe 6.1%
    Germanic 2.9%
    Western Russia 2.2%
    Northwestern Europe 1.1%

    Asia (East) 1.3%
    South China 1.3%
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    interesting results!

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