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    this has been my experience with the various GED calculators - no matter which testing company MENA pops up on MDLP, Eurogenes, Dodecad, Harappa World, puntDNAL, and GedrosiaDNA - Ashkenazi Jew, but also Jews from Azerbaijan, Georgian, Iranian, Iraqi, Kurdish, Morocco, Uzbek, but the most prevalent is Iraqi Jew. This was previously unknown to me - but this has been the case for years.

    I agree that this is more than simply coincidence or noise or overlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie X View Post
    this has been my experience with the various GED calculators - no matter which testing company MENA pops up on MDLP, Eurogenes, Dodecad, Harappa World, puntDNAL, and GedrosiaDNA - Ashkenazi Jew, but also Jews from Azerbaijan, Georgian, Iranian, Iraqi, Kurdish, Morocco, Uzbek, but the most prevalent is Iraqi Jew. This was previously unknown to me - but this has been the case for years.

    I agree that this is more than simply coincidence or noise or overlap.

    true. when a certain region or ethnic group is showing up in its various forms across the board of all the calculating models, it is not coincidence or noise or overlap. now, while the various labels for Jews are used in different models, Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Iraqi et cetera.... this doesn't necessarily mean Jewish ancestry, but rather it means you have similar traits as those groups. remember that on many calculators Ashkenazi is used almost interchangeably with South-Italian/Sicilian.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 34.09
    2 West_Med 20.06
    3 North_Sea 15.34
    4 East_Med 11.28
    5 Baltic 6.22
    6 West_Asian 5.41
    7 Red_Sea 3.05
    8 Sub-Saharan 2.33
    9 Northeast_African 2.21

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Andalucia 5.29
    2 Spanish_Valencia 5.74
    3 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.74
    4 Spanish_Aragon 6.75
    5 Spanish_Murcia 6.92
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.03
    7 Spanish_Extremadura 7.79
    8 Spanish_Cataluna 8.48
    9 Spanish_Cantabria 8.58
    10 Southwest_French 9.12
    11 Portuguese 9.58
    12 North_Italian 11.17
    13 Spanish_Galicia 11.69
    14 French_Basque 14.38
    15 Tuscan 15.62
    16 French 15.65
    17 South_Dutch 19.35
    18 West_Sicilian 20.43
    19 Italian_Abruzzo 21.4
    20 Serbian 21.68

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.7% French_Basque + 24.3% Jordanian @ 4.43
    2 63.8% French_Basque + 36.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.48
    3 75% French_Basque + 25% Syrian @ 4.63
    4 65.8% French_Basque + 34.2% Ashkenazi @ 4.76
    5 60.6% French_Basque + 39.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.81
    6 97.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 2.3% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 4.82
    7 97.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 2.2% Luhya @ 4.82
    8 97.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 2.2% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.82
    9 59.4% French_Basque + 40.6% West_Sicilian @ 4.83
    10 98% Spanish_Andalucia + 2% Biaka_Pygmy @ 4.83
    11 97.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 2.4% San @ 4.83
    12 74.9% French_Basque + 25.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.84
    13 98.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 1.9% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.84
    14 98.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 1.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 4.84
    15 98.2% Spanish_Andalucia + 1.8% Mandenka @ 4.86
    16 98.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 1.7% Yoruban @ 4.87
    17 65.1% French_Basque + 34.9% South_Italian @ 4.87
    18 97.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 2.3% Sudanese @ 4.87
    19 96.6% Spanish_Valencia + 3.4% Sudanese @ 4.9
    20 97.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 2.3% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 4.9

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 31.86
    2 West_Med 20.93
    3 North_Sea 16.3
    4 East_Med 11.93
    5 West_Asian 4.43
    6 Baltic 4.1
    7 Red_Sea 3.53
    8 Eastern_Euro 2.15
    9 Sub-Saharan 1.97
    10 Northeast_African 1.89
    11 Amerindian 0.57
    12 Oceanian 0.36

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Andalucia 3.54
    2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 4.12
    3 Spanish_Valencia 4.33
    4 Spanish_Murcia 4.37
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 5
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.68
    7 Spanish_Aragon 5.89
    8 Spanish_Cataluna 6.85
    9 Portuguese 7.15
    10 Spanish_Cantabria 7.17
    11 Southwest_French 8.62
    12 North_Italian 9.23
    13 Spanish_Galicia 9.52
    14 Tuscan 14.08
    15 French 14.38
    16 French_Basque 15.31
    17 South_Dutch 18.58
    18 West_Sicilian 19.09
    19 Italian_Abruzzo 20.24
    20 Serbian 20.63

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 92.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7.4% Egyptian @ 2.43
    2 90.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 9.6% Tunisian @ 2.5
    3 92.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7.3% Jordanian @ 2.51
    4 90.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 9.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.54
    5 93% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7% Palestinian @ 2.57
    6 93% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7% Bedouin @ 2.63
    7 89.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 10.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.63
    8 92.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.64
    9 92.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7.3% Syrian @ 2.64
    10 88.8% Spanish_Aragon + 12.2% Jordanian @ 2.66
    11 93.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.66
    12 89.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 10.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.67
    13 88.9% Spanish_Aragon + 11.1% Egyptian @ 2.7
    14 93.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.72
    15 84% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 16% West_Sicilian @ 2.73
    16 93.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.7% Samaritan @ 2.73
    17 91.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 8.4% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.74
    18 91% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 9% Algerian @ 2.76
    19 93.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.77
    20 89.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 10.1% Italian_Jewish @ 2.77


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 32.39
    2 West_Med 20.84
    3 North_Sea 16.38
    4 East_Med 12.23
    5 West_Asian 3.99
    6 Baltic 3.75
    7 Red_Sea 3.37
    8 Eastern_Euro 2.36
    9 Northeast_African 2.03
    10 Sub-Saharan 1.85
    11 Amerindian 0.54
    12 Oceanian 0.27

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Spanish_Andalucia 3.71
    2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 4.06
    3 Spanish_Valencia 4.25
    4 Spanish_Murcia 4.39
    5 Spanish_Extremadura 5.24
    6 Spanish_Aragon 5.7
    7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.92
    8 Spanish_Cataluna 7
    9 Spanish_Cantabria 7.25
    10 Portuguese 7.41
    11 Southwest_French 8.66
    12 North_Italian 9.64
    13 Spanish_Galicia 9.83
    14 Tuscan 14.46
    15 French 14.58
    16 French_Basque 15.02
    17 South_Dutch 18.72
    18 West_Sicilian 19.33
    19 Italian_Abruzzo 20.58
    20 Serbian 20.99

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7% Egyptian @ 2.54
    2 89.2% Spanish_Aragon + 10.8% Egyptian @ 2.63
    3 90.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 9.1% Tunisian @ 2.64
    4 91.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 8.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.66
    5 93.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.8% Jordanian @ 2.67
    6 89.3% Spanish_Aragon + 10.7% Jordanian @ 2.68
    7 93.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.6% Palestinian @ 2.68
    8 93.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.76
    9 90.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 9.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.76
    10 93.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.5% Bedouin @ 2.79
    11 90.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 9.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.8
    12 94.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 5.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.83
    13 93.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.84
    14 93.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.7% Syrian @ 2.86
    15 92.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 7.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.86
    16 94% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.86
    17 93.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 6.3% Samaritan @ 2.87
    18 87% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13% West_Sicilian @ 2.88
    19 90.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 9.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.89
    20 91.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 8.3% Algerian @ 2.9



    Basically all the same

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    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Belarusian 0.91
    2 Lithuanian 4.52
    3 Russian 5.02
    4 Karelian 5.69
    5 Mordovian 5.72
    6 Finnish 6.09
    7 Polish 6.6
    8 Swedish 10.11
    9 Norwegian 12.65
    10 North_German 13.53
    11 Slovenian 14.62
    12 Scottish 14.86
    13 Austrian 15.07
    14 Orcadian 15.35
    15 Hungarian 15.77
    16 Irish 15.91
    17 English 16.33
    18 Croatian 17.8
    19 Utahn_White 19.69
    20 South_German 20.31

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.3% Belarusian + 3.7% Swedish @ 0.83
    2 94.6% Belarusian + 5.4% Polish @ 0.83
    3 99.1% Belarusian + 0.9% Basque @ 0.84
    4 97.7% Belarusian + 2.3% Scottish @ 0.84
    5 97.4% Belarusian + 2.6% Norwegian @ 0.85
    6 99.1% Belarusian + 0.9% Portuguese @ 0.85
    7 97.6% Belarusian + 2.4% North_German @ 0.85
    8 98% Belarusian + 2% English @ 0.85
    9 97.9% Belarusian + 2.1% Orcadian @ 0.85
    10 98.4% Belarusian + 1.6% Utahn_White @ 0.86
    11 99.1% Belarusian + 0.9% Spaniard @ 0.86
    12 98.1% Belarusian + 1.9% Irish @ 0.86
    13 99.5% Belarusian + 0.5% Sardinian @ 0.86
    14 98.5% Belarusian + 1.5% South_German @ 0.86
    15 98.7% Belarusian + 1.3% French @ 0.86
    16 99.7% Belarusian + 0.3% Somali @ 0.88
    17 99.6% Belarusian + 0.4% Mozabite_Berber @ 0.88
    18 99.3% Belarusian + 0.7% Italian @ 0.88
    19 99.4% Belarusian + 0.6% Brazilian @ 0.88
    20 98.4% Belarusian + 1.6% Slovenian

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    0.91 is close. It should be 0.00. If not me, then who is genetically Belarusian.

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    If southern Slavs consider us as some kind of pure Slavs, then , in my opinion, we are not (Belarusians) We don't see ourselves this way, As a north-eastern Belarusian, I see original Slavs - Slovaks and Slovenes.
    Perhaps, Lusatian Sorbs. Those who are Roman Catholic?

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    We had many Balts meddling among us throughout written history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volat View Post
    0.91 is close. It should be 0.00. If not me, then who is genetically Belarusian.
    0.91 is very close.

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    1 NE_European 52.68
    2 Mediterranean 32.07
    3 Caucasian 12.4
    4 SW_Asian 0.98
    5 Amerindian 0.54
    6 Siberian 0.5
    7 S_Indian 0.49
    8 Horn_Of_Africa 0.32

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Utahn_White 2.9
    2 South_German 2.92
    3 French 4.79
    4 Irish 4.85
    5 English 5.23
    6 Croatian 5.75
    7 Serbian 5.76
    8 Orcadian 5.91
    9 Hungarian 6.34
    10 Slovenian 6.73
    11 Austrian 6.74
    12 Scottish 6.78
    13 North_German 7.22
    14 Norwegian 8.81
    15 Bosnian 10.78
    16 Swedish 11.05
    17 Macedonian 11.14
    18 Romanian 12.18
    19 Bulgarian 12.97
    20 Polish 14.37

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 95.3% Utahn_White + 4.7% Lezgin @ 1.7
    2 92.8% English + 7.2% Georgian @ 1.77
    3 95.6% Utahn_White + 4.4% North_Ossetian @ 1.79
    4 95.1% Utahn_White + 4.9% Chechen @ 1.81
    5 95.5% Utahn_White + 4.5% Balkar @ 1.82
    6 95.5% Utahn_White + 4.5% Kumyk @ 1.86
    7 96.6% Utahn_White + 3.4% Georgian @ 1.87
    8 96.4% Utahn_White + 3.6% Abkhasian @ 1.87
    9 89.4% Scottish + 10.6% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.97
    10 91.9% English + 8.1% Turk_Trabzon @ 2.02
    11 92.4% English + 7.6% Abkhasian @ 2.05
    12 95.5% Utahn_White + 4.5% Nogai @ 2.06
    13 72.8% Utahn_White + 27.2% Serbian @ 2.09
    14 96.2% Utahn_White + 3.8% Turk_Istanbul @ 2.09
    15 78.9% Scottish + 21.1% Greek_Central @ 2.13
    16 79% Irish + 21% Italian @ 2.17
    17 96% Utahn_White + 4% Tadjik @ 2.18
    18 77.2% Scottish + 22.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.2
    19 90.8% Scottish + 9.2% Georgian @ 2.2
    20 96.6% Utahn_White + 3.4% Azerbaijani @ 2.22

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    1 NE_European 61.56
    2 Mediterranean 26.34
    3 Caucasian 5.95
    4 SW_Asian 3.62
    5 Oceanian 0.99
    6 Siberian 0.83
    7 S_Indian 0.68
    8 S_African 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Swedish 2.38
    2 Norwegian 3.32
    3 Polish 4.31
    4 North_German 4.76
    5 Scottish 5.28
    6 Orcadian 5.78
    7 English 6.64
    8 Austrian 6.65
    9 Slovenian 6.86
    10 Irish 6.94
    11 Hungarian 8.05
    12 Utahn_White 10
    13 Croatian 10.13
    14 Belarusian 10.64
    15 South_German 10.68
    16 Mordovian 11.26
    17 Russian 11.34
    18 Karelian 12.38
    19 Finnish 13.03
    20 French 14.03

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 78.7% Lithuanian + 21.3% Sardinian 1.41
    2 73.8% Belarusian + 26.2% Basque 1.55
    3 63.4% Lithuanian + 36.6% Spaniard 1.57
    4 92.8% Polish + 7.2% Sardinian 1.62
    5 98.1% Swedish + 1.9% Bedouin_B 1.65
    6 86% Polish + 14% Spaniard 1.76
    7 88.3% Polish + 11.7% Basque 1.79
    8 98.2% Swedish + 1.8% Saudi 1.98
    9 84.2% Norwegian + 15.8% Lithuanian 2.06
    10 50.1% French + 49.9% Lithuanian 2.07
    11 87.8% Polish + 12.2% Portuguese 2.09
    12 83.2% Belarusian + 16.8% Sardinian 2.09
    13 59.5% Norwegian + 40.5% Polish 2.11
    14 68.9% English + 31.1% Lithuanian 2.13
    15 80.4% Norwegian + 19.6% Belarusian 2.14
    16 66.2% Lithuanian + 33.8% Portuguese 2.17
    17 81.5% Norwegian + 18.5% Mordovian 2.17
    18 72.2% Orcadian + 27.8% Lithuanian 2.18
    19 68.5% Scottish + 31.5% Belarusian 2.23
    20 79% Polish + 21% French 2.23

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