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Thread: Is there a good way of teasing out Irish from Scottish ancestry ?

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    Just an example from another Irish person.

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    K13
    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Irish 4.76
    2 West_Scottish 4.91
    3 Norwegian 5.23
    4 North_Dutch 5.42
    5 Danish 5.61
    6 Orcadian 5.92
    7 North_German 7.6
    8 Southwest_English 7.94
    9 Southeast_English 8.01
    10 Swedish

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 54.57
    2 Baltic 25.12
    3 West_Med 8.26
    4 West_Asian 8.25
    5 East_Med 1.27
    6 South_Asian 1.24
    7 Amerindian 1.2
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Irish 4.76
    2 West_Scottish 4.91
    3 Norwegian 5.23
    4 North_Dutch 5.42
    5 Danish 5.61
    6 Orcadian 5.92
    7 North_German 7.6
    8 Southwest_English 7.94
    9 Southeast_English 8.01
    10 Swedish 8.12
    11 South_Dutch 12.72
    12 West_German 13.44
    13 North_Swedish 14.39
    14 Austrian 17.8
    15 East_German 17.86
    16 French 18.23
    17 Hungarian 21.94
    18 Southwest_Finnish 22.7
    19 Spanish_Cataluna 25.32
    20 South_Polish 26.14

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55.3% West_Scottish + 44.7% Norwegian @ 4.25
    2 59.7% Irish + 40.3% Norwegian @ 4.33
    3 79% West_Scottish + 21% Swedish @ 4.58
    4 86% Irish + 14% Swedish @ 4.64
    5 66.3% West_Scottish + 33.7% Danish @ 4.65
    6 75.5% Irish + 24.5% Danish @ 4.65
    7 97.4% Irish + 2.6% La_Brana-1 @ 4.7
    8 79.5% Irish + 20.5% North_Dutch @ 4.71
    9 65.9% West_Scottish + 34.1% North_Dutch @ 4.71
    10 95.6% Irish + 4.4% North_Swedish @ 4.72
    11 95.3% West_Scottish + 4.7% La_Brana-1 @ 4.73
    12 91.4% West_Scottish + 8.6% North_Swedish @ 4.74
    13 99.2% Irish + 0.8% Tabassaran @ 4.75
    14 98.8% Irish + 1.2% Finnish @ 4.75
    15 95.8% Irish + 4.2% North_German @ 4.75
    16 99.5% Irish + 0.5% Lezgin @ 4.75
    17 99.1% Irish + 0.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.76
    18 97.6% West_Scottish + 2.4% Tabassaran @ 4.76
    19 90.5% Irish + 9.5% West_Scottish @ 4.76
    20 99.6% Irish + 0.4% East_Finnish @ 4.76


    K15
    1 Irish 5.57
    2 West_Scottish 5.58
    3 Danish 7.09
    4 Southeast_English 7.31
    5 Orcadian 7.42
    6 North_Dutch 7.81
    7 North_German 7.91
    8 Southwest_English 9.31
    9 West_Norwegian 11.18
    10 Norwegian 11.18

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 36.14
    2 Atlantic 34.34
    3 Baltic 10.47
    4 Eastern_Euro 9.34
    5 West_Asian 5.79
    6 West_Med 2.89
    7 Amerindian 0.8
    8 South_Asian 0.24

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Irish 5.57
    2 West_Scottish 5.58
    3 Danish 7.09
    4 Southeast_English 7.31
    5 Orcadian 7.42
    6 North_Dutch 7.81
    7 North_German 7.91
    8 Southwest_English 9.31
    9 West_Norwegian 11.18
    10 Norwegian 11.18
    11 Swedish 11.99
    12 South_Dutch 12.05
    13 North_Swedish 14.16
    14 West_German 14.31
    15 French 16.64
    16 East_German 17.04
    17 Southwest_Finnish 17.78
    18 Austrian 19.82
    19 Finnish 21.4
    20 Hungarian 21.65

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 98.1% West_Scottish + 1.9% North_Ossetian @ 5.48
    2 98% West_Scottish + 2% Chechen @ 5.48
    3 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Adygei @ 5.51
    4 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Kabardin @ 5.51
    5 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Ossetian @ 5.52
    6 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Lezgin @ 5.52
    7 98.7% West_Scottish + 1.3% Abhkasian @ 5.52
    8 98.4% West_Scottish + 1.6% Tabassaran @ 5.52
    9 98.5% West_Scottish + 1.5% Balkar @ 5.52
    10 98.7% Irish + 1.3% Chechen @ 5.53
    11 53.4% Irish + 46.6% West_Scottish @ 5.53
    12 98.8% West_Scottish + 1.2% Georgian @ 5.54
    13 98.8% Irish + 1.2% Tabassaran @ 5.54
    14 99% Irish + 1% North_Ossetian @ 5.54
    15 99% Irish + 1% Lezgin @ 5.54
    16 99.2% Irish + 0.8% Adygei @ 5.55
    17 99.2% Irish + 0.8% Kabardin @ 5.55
    18 99.2% Irish + 0.8% Ossetian @ 5.55
    19 98.9% West_Scottish + 1.1% Kumyk @ 5.55
    20 99.5% Irish + 0.5% Abhkasian @ 5.56


    MDLP K16
    1 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.12
    2 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 2.61
    3 English (Cornwall) 2.78
    4 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.2
    5 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 3.2
    6 Irish (Connacht) 3.22
    7 Irish (Munster) 3.43
    8 Irish (Ulster) 3.46
    9 Scottish (Highlands) 3.58
    10 English (Kent) 3.86

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 28.01
    2 NorthEastEuropean 27.2
    3 Steppe 26.27
    4 Caucasian 16.62
    5 Indian 1.33
    6 Arctic 0.57

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.12
    2 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 2.61
    3 English (Cornwall) 2.78
    4 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.2
    5 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 3.2
    6 Irish (Connacht) 3.22
    7 Irish (Munster) 3.43
    8 Irish (Ulster) 3.46
    9 Scottish (Highlands) 3.58
    10 English (Kent) 3.86
    11 Irish (Leinster) 3.94
    12 English (England) 4.01
    13 Scottish (Grampian) 4.12
    14 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 4.16
    15 Norwegian (Norwegia) 4.23
    16 Scottish (Fife) 4.44
    17 Icelandic (Iceland) 4.54
    18 French (WestFrance) 4.77
    19 Scottish (Borders) 4.83
    20 Dutch (Netherlands) 5.21

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 14.4% German (Germany) @ 1.63
    2 93.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 6.1% Italian (Bergamo) @ 1.74
    3 75% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 25% English (England) @ 1.74
    4 70.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 29.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 1.79
    5 95% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 1.8
    6 95.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 4.4% Greek (Thessaloniki) @ 1.81
    7 89.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 10.8% French (EastFrance) @ 1.82
    8 95.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 4.3% Albanian (Albania) @ 1.82
    9 87.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 12.8% French (France) @ 1.82
    10 79% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 21% Scottish (Fife) @ 1.82
    11 94.1% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5.9% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 1.83
    12 77.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 22.1% Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) @ 1.83
    13 95.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 4.1% Greek (Greece) @ 1.84
    14 71.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 28.2% Irish (Connacht) @ 1.84
    15 93.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 6.6% Serbian (Serbia) @ 1.85
    16 94.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5.3% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) @ 1.85
    17 93.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 6.2% Montenegrian (Montenegro) @ 1.86
    18 98.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 1.8% Turk (Trabzon) @ 1.86
    19 95.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 4.6% Corsican (Corsica) @ 1.88
    20 94.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5.8% Spanish (Baleares) @ 1.88


    Lukasz's K36 report
    1 Ireland 94%
    2 Northern Ireland 93%
    3 Wales 91%
    4 North Scotland 90%
    5 England 90%
    6 South Scotland 88%
    7 Brittany 86%
    8 Netherlands 86%
    9 Denmark 85%
    10 Belgium 83%
    11 Germany 83%
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    Paternal great grandfather (mt): Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)

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    K13
    1 West_Scottish 5.61
    2 Irish 6.09
    3 Southwest_English 7.33
    4 Orcadian 7.58
    5 Southeast_English 8.84
    6 North_Dutch 8.98
    7 Danish 9.49
    8 Norwegian 9.86
    9 North_German 11.5
    10 Swedish 12.95

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 56.58
    2 Baltic 19.7
    3 West_Med 11.2
    4 West_Asian 8.36
    5 Amerindian 2.28
    6 South_Asian 1.23
    7 Red_Sea 0.43
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.17
    9 East_Med 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 West_Scottish 5.61
    2 Irish 6.09
    3 Southwest_English 7.33
    4 Orcadian 7.58
    5 Southeast_English 8.84
    6 North_Dutch 8.98
    7 Danish 9.49
    8 Norwegian 9.86
    9 North_German 11.5
    10 Swedish 12.95
    11 South_Dutch 13.43
    12 West_German 14.53
    13 French 17.4
    14 North_Swedish 19.36
    15 Austrian 20.73
    16 East_German 21.16
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 23.38
    18 Southwest_French 24.2
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 24.43
    20 Spanish_Cantabria 24.51

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Karitiana @ 5.52
    2 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Mayan @ 5.54
    3 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Pima @ 5.54
    4 99.4% West_Scottish + 0.6% North_Amerindian @ 5.58
    5 99.2% West_Scottish + 0.8% Balochi @ 5.59
    6 99.3% West_Scottish + 0.7% Brahui @ 5.59
    7 98.2% West_Scottish + 1.8% French_Basque @ 5.59
    8 99.6% West_Scottish + 0.4% Makrani @ 5.6
    9 99.7% West_Scottish + 0.3% Sindhi @ 5.61
    10 99.8% West_Scottish + 0.2% Kalash @ 5.61
    11 99.8% West_Scottish + 0.2% Tabassaran @ 5.61
    12 99.8% West_Scottish + 0.2% Ossetian @ 5.61
    13 100% West_Scottish + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 5.61
    14 100% West_Scottish + 0% Abhkasian @ 5.61
    15 100% West_Scottish + 0% Adygei @ 5.61
    16 100% West_Scottish + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.61
    17 100% West_Scottish + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.61
    18 100% West_Scottish + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 5.61
    19 100% West_Scottish + 0% Algerian @ 5.61
    20 100% West_Scottish + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.61


    K15
    1 Orcadian 5.01
    2 West_Scottish 5.85
    3 Irish 6.31
    4 Southeast_English 7.07
    5 North_Dutch 8.28
    6 Southwest_English 8.3
    7 Danish 8.39
    8 West_Norwegian 10.35
    9 North_German 10.47
    10 Norwegian 11.29

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 39.96
    2 Atlantic 32.78
    3 Eastern_Euro 6.65
    4 Baltic 6.43
    5 West_Med 6.02
    6 West_Asian 5.61
    7 Amerindian 1.89
    8 South_Asian 0.53
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.13

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Orcadian 5.01
    2 West_Scottish 5.85
    3 Irish 6.31
    4 Southeast_English 7.07
    5 North_Dutch 8.28
    6 Southwest_English 8.3
    7 Danish 8.39
    8 West_Norwegian 10.35
    9 North_German 10.47
    10 Norwegian 11.29
    11 South_Dutch 12.64
    12 Swedish 12.85
    13 West_German 13.49
    14 French 15.91
    15 North_Swedish 16.03
    16 East_German 19.51
    17 Southwest_Finnish 21.33
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 22.58
    19 Austrian 23.01
    20 Spanish_Galicia 23.39

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Karitiana @ 4.82
    2 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Anzick-1 @ 4.85
    3 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Pima @ 4.85
    4 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Mayan @ 4.86
    5 99% Orcadian + 1% North_Amerindian @ 4.93
    6 96.9% Orcadian + 3.1% French_Basque @ 4.93
    7 95.1% Orcadian + 4.9% Irish @ 5.01
    8 95.7% Orcadian + 4.3% West_Scottish @ 5.01
    9 99.9% Orcadian + 0.1% East_Greenlander @ 5.01
    10 99.9% Orcadian + 0.1% Abhkasian @ 5.01
    11 100% Orcadian + 0% Ossetian @ 5.01
    12 100% Orcadian + 0% Georgian @ 5.01
    13 100% Orcadian + 0% Adygei @ 5.01
    14 100% Orcadian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 5.01
    15 100% Orcadian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 5.01
    16 100% Orcadian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.01
    17 100% Orcadian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.01
    18 100% Orcadian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 5.01
    19 100% Orcadian + 0% Algerian @ 5.01
    20 100% Orcadian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.01


    MDLP K16
    1 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.52
    2 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 2.82
    3 Irish (Connacht) 3.13
    4 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 3.2
    5 English (Cornwall) 3.25
    6 Irish (Munster) 3.68
    7 Scottish (Highlands) 3.71
    8 Irish (Ulster) 3.74
    9 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.87
    10 English (Kent) 3.99

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 28.03
    2 Steppe 26.56
    3 NorthEastEuropean 26.56
    4 Caucasian 16.47
    5 Amerindian 1.75
    6 Indian 0.63

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.52
    2 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 2.82
    3 Irish (Connacht) 3.13
    4 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 3.2
    5 English (Cornwall) 3.25
    6 Irish (Munster) 3.68
    7 Scottish (Highlands) 3.71
    8 Irish (Ulster) 3.74
    9 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.87
    10 English (Kent) 3.99
    11 Irish (Leinster) 4.31
    12 Scottish (Grampian) 4.44
    13 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 4.49
    14 English (England) 4.61
    15 Scottish (Fife) 4.75
    16 Norwegian (Norwegia) 4.87
    17 French (WestFrance) 4.97
    18 Icelandic (Iceland) 5.11
    19 Scottish (Borders) 5.17
    20 Dutch (Netherlands) 5.65

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 62.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 37.3% Irish (Connacht) @ 2.11
    2 93.1% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 6.9% Italian (Bergamo) @ 2.11
    3 96.7% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.3% Turk (Trabzon) @ 2.14
    4 96.5% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.5% Georgian (Megrelia) @ 2.16
    5 96.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.7% Georgian_Abkhazia (Abkhazia) @ 2.17
    6 86.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 13.6% German (Germany) @ 2.17
    7 96.4% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.6% Abkhazian (Gudauta) @ 2.18
    8 96.2% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.8% Adygei (Adygea) @ 2.18
    9 85.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 14.8% French (France) @ 2.19
    10 96.2% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.8% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 2.19
    11 96.2% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.8% Balkar (Kabardino-Balkaria) @ 2.2
    12 96.4% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.6% Georgian (Kakheti) @ 2.2
    13 96.3% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.7% Abkhazian_Lykhny (Lykhny) @ 2.2
    14 92.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 7.2% Spanish (Baleares) @ 2.21
    15 96.5% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.5% Georgians (Zugdidi) @ 2.21
    16 95.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 4.8% Greek (Thessaloniki) @ 2.21
    17 94.5% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 5.5% Greek (Athens) @ 2.22
    18 96.6% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.4% Abhkasian (Abkhasia) @ 2.22
    19 96.5% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 3.5% Georgian (Georgia) @ 2.22
    20 94.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5.3% Kosovar (Kosovo) @ 2.22


    Lukasz's K36 report
    1 Wales 92%
    2 England 92%
    3 Northern Ireland 91%
    4 South Scotland 91%
    5 Ireland 90%
    6 Netherlands 88%
    7 Denmark 86%
    8 Brittany 85%
    9 North Germany 84%
    10 Belgium 84%

    Someone looking at his DNA thought that he looked more Scots-Irish or Northern Irish than Irish from the Republic of Ireland. However, his known ancestors are all from Connacht and his direct paternal line has been around the Galway-Roscommon border since around the 4th century going by genealogies but at the very least since the 1200s. He was also curious if he was descended from Irish but born in the US or Canada due to the Native American trace that appears.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    Paternal great grandfather (mt): Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)

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    K13
    1 Norwegian 1.95
    2 Danish 2.54
    3 North_Dutch 2.64
    4 North_German 3.69
    5 Swedish 3.8
    6 Orcadian 4.97
    7 Irish 5
    8 West_Scottish 5.78
    9 Southeast_English 6.79
    10 Southwest_English 7.86

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 50.56
    2 Baltic 28.21
    3 West_Med 9.4
    4 West_Asian 6.95
    5 East_Med 2.41
    6 South_Asian 1.15
    7 Amerindian 0.72
    8 Oceanian 0.59

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Norwegian 1.95
    2 Danish 2.54
    3 North_Dutch 2.64
    4 North_German 3.69
    5 Swedish 3.8
    6 Orcadian 4.97
    7 Irish 5
    8 West_Scottish 5.78
    9 Southeast_English 6.79
    10 Southwest_English 7.86
    11 North_Swedish 10.28
    12 South_Dutch 10.48
    13 West_German 10.94
    14 East_German 13.39
    15 Austrian 13.63
    16 French 16.65
    17 Hungarian 17.72
    18 Southwest_Finnish 18.51
    19 South_Polish 21.5
    20 Croatian 22.79

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Balochi @ 1.32
    2 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Makrani @ 1.32
    3 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Brahui @ 1.32
    4 97.2% Norwegian + 2.8% Tabassaran @ 1.34
    5 97.3% Norwegian + 2.7% Lezgin @ 1.35
    6 97.8% Norwegian + 2.2% Kalash @ 1.37
    7 97.5% Norwegian + 2.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.38
    8 98% Norwegian + 2% Sindhi @ 1.4
    9 97.4% Norwegian + 2.6% Chechen @ 1.4
    10 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Pathan @ 1.42
    11 98% Norwegian + 2% Abhkasian @ 1.42
    12 97.8% Norwegian + 2.2% Punjabi_Jat @ 1.43
    13 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Georgian @ 1.43
    14 97.8% Norwegian + 2.2% Kurdish @ 1.43
    15 97.9% Norwegian + 2.1% Iranian @ 1.45
    16 97.7% Norwegian + 2.3% Adygei @ 1.45
    17 97.6% Norwegian + 2.4% Kumyk @ 1.46
    18 97.8% Norwegian + 2.2% North_Ossetian @ 1.48
    19 97.8% Norwegian + 2.2% Ossetian @ 1.48
    20 72.9% Norwegian + 27.1% North_German @ 1.5


    K15
    1 Danish 3.12
    2 West_Scottish 4.4
    3 North_Dutch 4.49
    4 Irish 4.97
    5 North_German 5.32
    6 Southeast_English 5.85
    7 Orcadian 6
    8 Norwegian 6.34
    9 West_Norwegian 7.16
    10 Southwest_English 7.37

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 36.53
    2 Atlantic 29.09
    3 Eastern_Euro 13.13
    4 Baltic 11.23
    5 West_Med 5.11
    6 West_Asian 3.92
    7 Oceanian 0.35
    8 South_Asian 0.31
    9 Amerindian 0.17
    10 East_Med 0.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Danish 3.12
    2 West_Scottish 4.4
    3 North_Dutch 4.49
    4 Irish 4.97
    5 North_German 5.32
    6 Southeast_English 5.85
    7 Orcadian 6
    8 Norwegian 6.34
    9 West_Norwegian 7.16
    10 Southwest_English 7.37
    11 Swedish 7.55
    12 North_Swedish 8.94
    13 South_Dutch 9.8
    14 West_German 11
    15 East_German 13.28
    16 Southwest_Finnish 13.66
    17 French 14.96
    18 Finnish 17.14
    19 Austrian 17.34
    20 Hungarian 18.12

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87% West_Scottish + 13% East_Finnish @ 3.01
    2 90.6% West_Scottish + 9.4% Erzya @ 3.01
    3 89.4% West_Scottish + 10.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.03
    4 98.4% Danish + 1.6% Chuvash @ 3.05
    5 98.7% Danish + 1.3% Mari @ 3.06
    6 97.5% Danish + 2.5% East_Finnish @ 3.07
    7 96.2% Danish + 3.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.07
    8 98.2% Danish + 1.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.08
    9 98.6% Danish + 1.4% Erzya @ 3.08
    10 72.9% West_Scottish + 27.1% North_Swedish @ 3.1
    11 96.1% Danish + 3.9% North_Swedish @ 3.1
    12 98.9% Danish + 1.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.1
    13 98.3% Danish + 1.7% Finnish @ 3.1
    14 98.8% Danish + 1.2% Estonian @ 3.1
    15 99.1% Danish + 0.9% Southwest_Russian @ 3.11
    16 98.9% Danish + 1.1% La_Brana-1 @ 3.11
    17 99.2% Danish + 0.8% Belorussian @ 3.11
    18 99.3% Danish + 0.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.11
    19 99.4% Danish + 0.6% Tatar @ 3.11
    20 99.2% Danish + 0.8% Polish @ 3.11


    MDLP K16
    1 English (Cornwall) 2.45
    2 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 2.81
    3 Irish (Connacht) 2.89
    4 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.95
    5 Irish (Ulster) 3.14
    6 English (Kent) 3.24
    7 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 3.26
    8 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.27
    9 Scottish (Highlands) 3.36
    10 Irish (Munster) 3.4

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 28.88
    2 NorthEastEuropean 26.44
    3 Steppe 26.2
    4 Caucasian 16.76
    5 Indian 1.72

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 English (Cornwall) 2.45
    2 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 2.81
    3 Irish (Connacht) 2.89
    4 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.95
    5 Irish (Ulster) 3.14
    6 English (Kent) 3.24
    7 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 3.26
    8 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.27
    9 Scottish (Highlands) 3.36
    10 Irish (Munster) 3.45
    11 Irish (Leinster) 3.54
    12 English (England) 3.7
    13 Scottish (Grampian) 3.76
    14 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 4.07
    15 Scottish (Fife) 4.27
    16 French (WestFrance) 4.28
    17 Scottish (Borders) 4.62
    18 Norwegian (Norwegia) 5.1
    19 Icelandic (Iceland) 5.37
    20 Dutch (Netherlands) 5.52

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 77.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 22.2% German (Germany) @ 2.09
    2 75.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 24.6% French (France) @ 2.1
    3 89.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 10.1% Italian (Bergamo) @ 2.15
    4 88.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 11.6% Spanish (Baleares) @ 2.21
    5 95% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 2.26
    6 51.3% Irish (Connacht) + 48.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 2.26
    7 60.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 39.2% English (England) @ 2.27
    8 73.5% English (Cornwall) + 26.5% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.31
    9 59.2% Irish (Cork_Kerry) + 40.8% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) @ 2.34
    10 62.2% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 37.8% Scottish (Grampian) @ 2.35
    11 87.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 12.1% Spanish (Spain) @ 2.35
    12 98.6% English (Cornwall) + 1.4% Chechen (Chechnya) @ 2.37
    13 88.9% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 11.1% Italian (Bergamo) @ 2.37
    14 98.8% English (Cornwall) + 1.2% Adygei (Adygea) @ 2.39
    15 98.9% English (Cornwall) + 1.1% Balkar (Kabardino-Balkaria) @ 2.4
    16 56.1% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 43.9% English (England) @ 2.4
    17 99.1% English (Cornwall) + 0.9% Georgian (Tbilisi) @ 2.4
    18 98.7% English (Cornwall) + 1.3% Ava (Dagestan_Khunzakh) @ 2.41
    19 98.8% English (Cornwall) + 1.2% Tabasaran (Dagestan) @ 2.41
    20 99% English (Cornwall) + 1% Kumyk (Dagestan) @ 2.41


    Lukasz's K36 report
    1 Ireland 89%
    2 Brittany 88%
    3 Northern Ireland 87%
    4 North Scotland 87%
    5 Wales 87%
    6 England 85%
    7 South Scotland 83%
    8 North France 83%
    9 North Germany 83%
    10 Denmark 82%
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    Paternal great grandfather (mt): Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)

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    Y-DNA (P)
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    mtDNA (M)
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    mtDNA (P)
    H27e

    Ireland
    Paternal Great Aunt

    K13
    1 Southwest_English 3.27
    2 West_Scottish 3.76
    3 Irish 3.99
    4 Orcadian 4.83
    5 Southeast_English 5.51
    6 North_Dutch 7.09
    7 Danish 7.63
    8 Norwegian 8.7
    9 North_German 9.36
    10 South_Dutch 9.52

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 52.91
    2 Baltic 20.74
    3 West_Med 14.96
    4 West_Asian 6.77
    5 South_Asian 1.93
    6 Amerindian 0.98
    7 East_Med 0.61
    8 Red_Sea 0.38
    9 Siberian 0.38
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.33

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_English 3.27
    2 West_Scottish 3.76
    3 Irish 3.99
    4 Orcadian 4.83
    5 Southeast_English 5.51
    6 North_Dutch 7.09
    7 Danish 7.63
    8 Norwegian 8.7
    9 North_German 9.36
    10 South_Dutch 9.52
    11 West_German 11.04
    12 Swedish 11.39
    13 French 13.52
    14 Austrian 17.22
    15 East_German 17.63
    16 North_Swedish 17.64
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 19.55
    18 Southwest_French 19.93
    19 Spanish_Cantabria 20.48
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.69

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.4% Irish + 12.6% French_Basque @ 2.08
    2 88.7% West_Scottish + 11.3% French_Basque @ 2.25
    3 90.3% West_Scottish + 9.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.93
    4 89.4% West_Scottish + 10.6% Southwest_French @ 2.95
    5 89.8% West_Scottish + 10.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.97
    6 90.7% West_Scottish + 9.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.02
    7 89.3% Irish + 10.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.02
    8 91.5% West_Scottish + 8.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.04
    9 95.7% West_Scottish + 4.3% Sardinian @ 3.04
    10 66% Southwest_English + 34% West_Scottish @ 3.08
    11 98.3% Southwest_English + 1.7% Kalash @ 3.08
    12 98.4% Southwest_English + 1.6% Balochi @ 3.09
    13 98.5% Southwest_English + 1.5% Brahui @ 3.09
    14 98.5% Southwest_English + 1.5% Sindhi @ 3.1
    15 70.5% Southwest_English + 29.5% Irish @ 3.1
    16 98.3% Southwest_English + 1.7% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.1
    17 98.4% Southwest_English + 1.6% Burusho @ 3.12
    18 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% Gujarati @ 3.13
    19 98.6% Southwest_English + 1.4% Brahmin_UP @ 3.13
    20 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% Kshatriya @ 3.14


    Eurogenes K15
    1 Southeast_English 3.13
    2 Southwest_English 3.37
    3 Irish 3.68
    4 West_Scottish 3.71
    5 Orcadian 3.83
    6 North_Dutch 5.78
    7 Danish 5.95
    8 North_German 7.5
    9 South_Dutch 8.28
    10 Norwegian 9.27

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 36.7
    2 Atlantic 30.88
    3 West_Med 9.66
    4 Baltic 8.62
    5 Eastern_Euro 7.74
    6 West_Asian 4.06
    7 South_Asian 1.33
    8 Amerindian 0.79
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southeast_English 3.13
    2 Southwest_English 3.37
    3 Irish 3.68
    4 West_Scottish 3.71
    5 Orcadian 3.83
    6 North_Dutch 5.78
    7 Danish 5.95
    8 North_German 7.5
    9 South_Dutch 8.28
    10 Norwegian 9.27
    11 West_Norwegian 9.33
    12 West_German 10.02
    13 Swedish 10.93
    14 French 11.78
    15 North_Swedish 13.83
    16 East_German 15.31
    17 Southwest_Finnish 18.44
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.66
    19 Austrian 19.2
    20 Spanish_Galicia 19.3

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 88.1% Orcadian + 11.9% French_Basque @ 1.57
    2 86.6% Orcadian + 13.4% Southwest_French @ 2
    3 87.8% Orcadian + 12.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.21
    4 86.8% Orcadian + 13.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.22
    5 87.9% Orcadian + 12.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.34
    6 55.9% Southwest_English + 44.1% Orcadian @ 2.4
    7 88.2% Orcadian + 11.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.42
    8 89.3% Orcadian + 10.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.49
    9 86.8% Orcadian + 13.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.61
    10 55.3% Southwest_English + 44.7% West_Scottish @ 2.61
    11 87.6% Orcadian + 12.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.62
    12 63% Southeast_English + 37% Orcadian @ 2.69
    13 55.5% Southwest_English + 44.5% Irish @ 2.73
    14 88.6% Orcadian + 11.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.74
    15 88.9% Orcadian + 11.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.77
    16 94.8% Orcadian + 5.2% Sardinian @ 2.82
    17 91.6% West_Scottish + 8.4% French_Basque @ 2.84
    18 89.8% West_Scottish + 10.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.88
    19 88.8% Orcadian + 11.2% Portuguese @ 2.88
    20 95.5% West_Scottish + 4.5% Sardinian @ 2.95


    MDLP K16
    1 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.14
    2 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 2.33
    3 English (Cornwall) 3.09
    4 Irish (Connacht) 3.22
    5 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.37
    6 Norwegian (Norwegia) 3.56
    7 English (Kent) 3.75
    8 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 3.76
    9 Irish (Ulster) 3.78
    10 Scottish (Highlands) 3.85

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Neolithic 28.21
    2 NorthEastEuropean 27.88
    3 Steppe 25.83
    4 Caucasian 16.34
    5 Siberian 0.68
    6 EastAfrican 0.58
    7 NorthAfrican 0.34
    8 Australian 0.14

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Scottish (Argyll_bute) 2.14
    2 Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) 2.33
    3 English (Cornwall) 3.09
    4 Irish (Connacht) 3.22
    5 Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) 3.37
    6 Norwegian (Norwegia) 3.56
    7 English (Kent) 3.75
    8 Irish (Cork_Kerry) 3.76
    9 Irish (Ulster) 3.78
    10 Scottish (Highlands) 3.85
    11 Irish (Munster) 3.88
    12 Icelandic (Iceland) 3.97
    13 Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) 4.21
    14 Irish (Leinster) 4.35
    15 Scottish (Grampian) 4.41
    16 English (England) 4.64
    17 Scottish (Fife) 4.81
    18 French (WestFrance) 4.9
    19 Scottish (Borders) 4.96
    20 Swede (Sweden) 5.16

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 14.2% German (Germany) @ 1.67
    2 73.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 26.3% English (Kent) @ 1.79
    3 87.5% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 12.5% French (France) @ 1.86
    4 71.4% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 28.6% Irish (Connacht) @ 1.86
    5 78.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 21.4% Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) @ 1.87
    6 82.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 17.4% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.88
    7 94.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5.1% Italian (Bergamo) @ 1.88
    8 85.4% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 14.6% German (Germany) @ 1.89
    9 86.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 13.1% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 1.89
    10 73.8% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 26.2% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 1.89
    11 93.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 6.1% Serbian (Serbia) @ 1.91
    12 97.5% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 2.5% Sardinian (Sardinia) @ 1.92
    13 92.9% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 7.1% Macedonian (Macedonia) @ 1.93
    14 93.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 6.3% Spanish (Spain) @ 1.93
    15 93.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 6.4% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 1.93
    16 87.9% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 12.1% Welsh (Wales) @ 1.93
    17 91.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 8.3% Hungarian (Hungary) @ 1.94
    18 93.6% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 6.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) @ 1.94
    19 91.9% Orcadian (Orkney_Islands) + 8.1% Serbian (Serbia) @ 1.94
    20 94.6% Scottish (Argyll_bute) + 5.4% Montenegrian (Montenegro) @ 1.95


    Lukasz's K36 report
    1 Brittany 87%
    2 Ireland 84%
    3 Northern Ireland 83%
    4 Wales 82%
    5 North Scotland 81%
    6 England 81%
    7 North France 80%
    8 Central France 87%
    9 South Scotland 77%
    10 Belgium/ Netherlands 77%

    The person looking at my great aunt's DNA detected a southern shift towards France or Iberia. I don't know how true it is but it was interesting to see it mentioned by someone in the thread that Connacht has a connection with Brittany.
    Ancestry: Ireland (Paper trail ≅ 81.25% Roscommon, 12.5% Galway, 6.25% Mayo)
    Y-DNA (P) ancestor (Y): Kelly b. c1830 in Co. Roscommon (Uí Maine)
    mtDNA (P) ancestor: Fleming b. c1831 in Co. Roscommon
    mtDNA (M) ancestor: McDermott b. c1814 in Co. Roscommon
    Paternal great grandfather (mt): Connella b. c1798 in Co. Roscommon (T2a1a8)

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    The MDLP K16 seems reflective of my family tree (paper trail) Ancestry. Even if it's not as reflective of my DNA results from Ancestry.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 3.398439
    2 Irish_Connacht @ 3.460978
    3 Scottish_Grampian @ 3.629341
    4 Scottish_Highlands @ 3.736763
    5 Scottish_Fife @ 3.807672
    6 Irish_Munster @ 3.899476
    7 French_WestFrance @ 3.939815
    8 English_England @ 3.995156
    9 Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 4.055691
    10 Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 4.122802
    11 English_Cornwall @ 4.430071
    12 Irish_Leinster @ 4.474013
    13 English_Kent @ 4.551624
    14 Dutch_Netherlands @ 4.725279
    15 Irish_Ulster @ 4.762119
    16 Scottish_Borders @ 4.942213
    17 Welsh_Wales @ 5.595805
    18 German_Germany @ 5.758939
    19 French_France @ 5.821363
    20 Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 5.881584

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +50% Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.482563


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_Kent +25% Macedonian_Macedonia +25% Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.345840


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Italian_Bergamo + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.137320
    2 English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.226301
    3 Italian_Bergamo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.237859
    4 Italian_Tuscany + Norwegian_Norwegia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.277630
    5 English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.287492
    6 Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Tuscany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.297972
    7 Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.302665
    8 Italian_Tuscany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.310320
    9 Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.323515
    10 Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.333139
    11 French_France + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.342774
    12 English_Kent + English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.345840
    13 French_France + Montenegrian_Montenegro + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.361865
    14 Italian_Tuscany + Norwegian_Norwegia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.372160
    15 English_Kent + Montenegrian_Montenegro + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.386890
    16 French_France + Macedonian_Macedonia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.390544
    17 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.398685
    18 Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.399907
    19 Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.407772
    20 English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.409739

    Done.

    The images attached are from the Ipad Ancestry App and it plots my family tree ancestors back 7 generations, that lived in Europe. They were also 'ThruLines". ancestry - 1.jpg

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    Northern Ireland Ireland
    Not to be clutching at straws BUT I notice that Protestant Ulster Scots usually have a decent chunk of England in ancestry.

    I don’t know if this infers anything but I assume that Scottish people would have a similar breakdown?

    https://imgur.com/gallery/fKkNLLC

    I can’t find a way to separate the Ireland and Scotland community though? I have seen some Highland Scots with a high percentage for that.
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    Northern Ireland Ireland
    I’m not sure if my grandmothers Donegal ancestry influences this? It seems to skew heavily towards Southern Irish despite being from NI.

    K16

    1 English_Cornwall @ 2.354438
    2 Irish_Connacht @ 2.547189
    3 Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 2.706069
    4 Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 2.798262
    5 Irish_Ulster @ 2.893154
    6 Scottish_Highlands @ 2.954407
    7 English_Kent @ 3.064443
    8 Irish_Munster @ 3.227293
    9 Irish_Leinster @ 3.381576
    10 English_England @ 3.505602
    11 Scottish_Grampian @ 3.535358
    12 Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 3.575921
    13 Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 3.704858
    14 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 3.813442
    15 French_WestFrance @ 3.963068
    16 Scottish_Fife @ 4.000154
    17 Scottish_Borders @ 4.330859
    18 Norwegian_Norwegia @ 5.257518
    19 Dutch_Netherlands @ 5.436989
    20 Icelandic_Iceland @ 5.721165

    K15

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Orcadian @ 4.884040
    2 North_Dutch @ 6.679823
    3 Danish @ 6.782596
    4 West_Scottish @ 7.108345
    5 West_Norwegian @ 7.346189
    6 Norwegian @ 7.667627
    7 Southeast_English @ 7.676363
    8 Southwest_English @ 7.838267
    9 Irish @ 8.108424
    10 North_German @ 9.909571
    11 Swedish @ 10.076996
    12 West_German @ 11.029986
    13 South_Dutch @ 12.112175
    14 North_Swedish @ 12.990473
    15 French @ 16.263229
    16 East_German @ 18.165838
    17 Southwest_Finnish @ 20.278549
    18 Finnish @ 23.305502
    19 Hungarian @ 23.357244
    20 Austrian @ 23.673668

    K13

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Irish @ 3.936009
    2 West_Scottish @ 4.748309
    3 Orcadian @ 5.213415
    4 Southwest_English @ 5.374004
    5 North_Dutch @ 6.427535
    6 Southeast_English @ 6.767406
    7 Danish @ 6.857608
    8 Norwegian @ 8.123405
    9 North_German @ 8.128976
    10 South_Dutch @ 10.395234
    11 Swedish @ 10.582765
    12 West_German @ 11.732635
    13 French @ 16.040529
    14 North_Swedish @ 17.522673
    15 Austrian @ 17.635296
    16 East_German @ 17.939262
    17 Hungarian @ 23.030792
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.635248
    19 Southwest_French @ 24.199205
    20 Spanish_Cantabria @ 24.841675
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garth View Post
    The MDLP K16 seems reflective of my family tree (paper trail) Ancestry. Even if it's not as reflective of my DNA results from Ancestry.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Scottish_Dumfries_Galloway @ 3.398439
    2 Irish_Connacht @ 3.460978
    3 Scottish_Grampian @ 3.629341
    4 Scottish_Highlands @ 3.736763
    5 Scottish_Fife @ 3.807672
    6 Irish_Munster @ 3.899476
    7 French_WestFrance @ 3.939815
    8 English_England @ 3.995156
    9 Shetlandic_Shetland_Islands @ 4.055691
    10 Irish_Cork_Kerry @ 4.122802
    11 English_Cornwall @ 4.430071
    12 Irish_Leinster @ 4.474013
    13 English_Kent @ 4.551624
    14 Dutch_Netherlands @ 4.725279
    15 Irish_Ulster @ 4.762119
    16 Scottish_Borders @ 4.942213
    17 Welsh_Wales @ 5.595805
    18 German_Germany @ 5.758939
    19 French_France @ 5.821363
    20 Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 5.881584

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% German_Germany +50% Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.482563


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_Kent +25% Macedonian_Macedonia +25% Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.345840


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Italian_Bergamo + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.137320
    2 English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.226301
    3 Italian_Bergamo + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.237859
    4 Italian_Tuscany + Norwegian_Norwegia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.277630
    5 English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.287492
    6 Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Tuscany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.297972
    7 Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.302665
    8 Italian_Tuscany + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.310320
    9 Italian_Bergamo + Norwegian_Norwegia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.323515
    10 Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.333139
    11 French_France + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Serbian_Serbia @ 2.342774
    12 English_Kent + English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.345840
    13 French_France + Montenegrian_Montenegro + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.361865
    14 Italian_Tuscany + Norwegian_Norwegia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.372160
    15 English_Kent + Montenegrian_Montenegro + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.386890
    16 French_France + Macedonian_Macedonia + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.390544
    17 Bulgarian_Bulgaria + English_Kent + Scottish_Argyll_bute + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.398685
    18 Icelandic_Iceland + Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Scottish_Argyll_bute @ 2.399907
    19 Italian_Tuscany + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.407772
    20 English_Kent + Macedonian_Macedonia + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands + Orcadian_Orkney_Islands @ 2.409739

    Done.

    The images attached are from the Ipad Ancestry App and it plots my family tree ancestors back 7 generations, that lived in Europe. They were also 'ThruLines". ancestry - 1.jpg
    this model's oracles are worthless for you in the 3 and 4 populations listings. I don't care what the model is "trying to do", there is no reason those bolded populations should have been chosen based on what you say your family history is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    this model's oracles are worthless for you in the 3 and 4 populations listings. I don't care what the model is "trying to do", there is no reason those bolded populations should have been chosen based on what you say your family history is.
    Indeed I agree.

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