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    Confused with Gedmatch calculators (two people, different data, exactly same results)

    Hello!

    So, me and my mom have both been using Gedmatch calculators for a while now. First, we both uploaded our raw data from MyHeritage to the page and later our FamilyTree Dna data (but we only uploaded our Myheritage data to Familytreedna and then those results to the Gedmatch).
    We've noticed that our results are exactly same when eg. I use FamilyTree data and she uses MyHeritage data and same other way around. Here's an example:

    My results in Eurogenes K13 with FamilyTree Dna:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 48.33
    2 North_Atlantic 29.50
    3 Siberian 7.82
    4 West_Med 7.37
    5 East_Med 4.88
    6 Oceanian 1.08

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 East_Finnish 6.275970
    2 Finnish 7.580615
    3 Belorussian 7.766594
    4 Estonian 7.934742
    5 Estonian_Polish 7.972981
    6 Kargopol_Russian 8.608108
    7 Russian_Smolensk 9.512957
    8 Southwest_Russian 9.847100
    9 Polish 10.398795
    10 Lithuanian 10.478583
    11 Ukrainian 11.392326
    12 Southwest_Finnish 11.448729
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.894484
    14 Erzya 12.097961
    15 South_Polish 12.180536
    16 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.765800
    17 La_Brana-1 17.591400
    18 Croatian 18.662405
    19 North_Swedish 20.395058
    20 Hungarian 21.111799

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_Finnish +50% Estonian_Polish 5.129549


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Ukrainian 4.876505


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ukrainian 4.876505
    2 Croatian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish 5.012670
    3 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + South_Polish 5.056340
    4 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ukrainian 5.095107
    5 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Southwest_Russian 5.106030
    6 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish 5.114192
    7 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ukrainian_Lviv 5.116336
    8 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish 5.129549
    9 Belorussian + Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish 5.149320
    10 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish 5.150363
    11 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian 5.175648
    12 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Ukrainian 5.179142
    13 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Southwest_Russian 5.201903
    14 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish 5.212006
    15 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Southwest_Russian 5.229778
    16 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Russian 5.240992
    17 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + South_Polish 5.285318
    18 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + South_Polish 5.296724
    19 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Ukrainian 5.298032
    20 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Finnish 5.298737


    Her results in Eurogenes K13 with MyHeritage:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 48.33
    2 North_Atlantic 29.50
    3 Siberian 7.82
    4 West_Med 7.37
    5 East_Med 4.88
    6 Oceanian 1.08


    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 East_Finnish 6.275970
    2 Finnish 7.580615
    3 Belorussian 7.766594
    4 Estonian 7.934742
    5 Estonian_Polish 7.972981
    6 Kargopol_Russian 8.608108
    7 Russian_Smolensk 9.512957
    8 Southwest_Russian 9.847100
    9 Polish 10.398795
    10 Lithuanian 10.478583
    11 Ukrainian 11.392326
    12 Southwest_Finnish 11.448729
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.894484
    14 Erzya 12.097961
    15 South_Polish 12.180536
    16 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.765800
    17 La_Brana-1 17.591400
    18 Croatian 18.662405
    19 North_Swedish 20.395058
    20 Hungarian 21.111799

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_Finnish +50% Estonian_Polish 5.129549


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Ukrainian 4.876505


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ukrainian 4.876505
    2 Croatian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish 5.012670
    3 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + South_Polish 5.056340
    4 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ukrainian 5.095107
    5 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Southwest_Russian 5.106030
    6 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish 5.114192
    7 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Ukrainian_Lviv 5.116336
    8 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish 5.129549
    9 Belorussian + Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish 5.149320
    10 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish 5.150363
    11 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Ukrainian 5.175648
    12 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Ukrainian 5.179142
    13 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Southwest_Russian 5.201903
    14 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish 5.212006
    15 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Southwest_Russian 5.229778
    16 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Southwest_Russian 5.240992
    17 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + South_Polish 5.285318
    18 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + South_Polish 5.296724
    19 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Ukrainian 5.298032
    20 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Finnish 5.298737


    So I don't know should I even believe any of these results anymore. How is this even possible? And I'm sure we have not mixed our kits or anything.

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    It sure looks like the same kit got loaded under both IDs - I haven't seen anything like this happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randwulf View Post
    It sure looks like the same kit got loaded under both IDs - I haven't seen anything like this happen.
    I think I am going to delete all of those kits and upload them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kukkuu View Post
    I think I am going to delete all of those kits and upload them again.
    I think it is a good idea.

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    Yes it is a good idea.

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    I deleted all the kits and uploaded them again. Problem seems to be solved now, I somehow messed up since some of the files had similar names. Thanks anyway!

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