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    kurd, is the genotype rate for ftdna better on the geneplaza calculators than ancestry dna or living dna, thank you very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
    POPULATION .Khana .Dluffy .Sapporo .Parasar .Varun .Reza .English .KingJ .Pole_A1
    Central & South Asia 56.27% 59.89% 61.09% 59.19% 65.52% 67.73% 8.63% 25.26% 7.90%
    Turan-Central 18.90% 13.99% 18.47% 10.81% 15.15% 5.24% 3.27% 13.81% 0.40%
    Indus Valley Civilization 30.16% 31.14% 30.60% 36.22% 34.89% 40.18% 5.36% 11.02% 7.50%
    AASI 7.21% 14.76% 12.02% 12.16% 15.47% 22.31% 0.00% 0.43% 0.00%
    Eurasian Steppe 22.41% 26.57% 19.23% 21.80% 20.64% 18.70% 29.38% 20.82% 32.08%
    Steppe-MLBA-W 6.23% 5.31% 9.08% 12.20% 3.42% 3.93% 22.41% 11.93% 20.66%
    Steppe-MLBA-E 7.18% 10.29% 2.26% 1.85% 8.06% 3.12% 6.97% 7.43% 4.92%
    Siberian-HG 3.01% 3.81% 4.16% 3.67% 3.59% 2.82% 0.00% 0.00% 1.43%
    Scythian-East 6.00% 7.16% 3.73% 4.08% 5.57% 8.84% 0.00% 1.46% 5.06%
    W Asia 5.75% 3.42% 7.24% 4.45% 0.26% 0.00% 3.61% 6.92% 1.91%
    Kura-Araxes 5.75% 3.42% 7.24% 4.45% 0.26% 0.00% 3.61% 6.92% 1.91%
    Europe 8.29% 6.51% 9.15% 6.94% 5.78% 0.24% 57.03% 46.67% 57.06%
    SE European Neolithic Farmers 0.00% 0.74% 0.00% 2.85% 0.31% 0.00% 24.40% 36.63% 17.22%
    Bell Beakers 8.28% 5.60% 7.82% 1.79% 3.64% 0.23% 25.80% 10.04% 26.80%
    WHG 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 1.82% 0.00% 5.54% 0.00% 9.05%
    Latvian-HG 0.00% 0.17% 1.32% 2.30% 0.00% 0.00% 1.29% 0.00% 4.00%
    E Asian 4.51% 2.58% 2.70% 5.96% 4.06% 10.63% 0.48% 0.00% 0.00%
    Sub-Saharan 2.77% 1.02% 0.59% 1.66% 3.75% 2.70% 0.87% 0.33% 1.05%
    Interesting on how parasar is scoring very high east asian in fact quite close to reza, even other south asians are scoring some amount of east asian as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by jortita View Post
    Interesting on how parasar is scoring very high east asian in fact quite close to reza, even other south asians are scoring some amount of east asian as well
    Its probably absorbing Munda like SE Asian or SE Asian part of AASI as well as some of the NE Asian that is present in North India
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    Quote Originally Posted by jortita View Post
    Interesting on how parasar is scoring very high east asian in fact quite close to reza, even other south asians are scoring some amount of east asian as well
    Generally, S Asians will always score higher E Asian than Europeans and W Asians when substructure is strpped down to the basics. Any researcher that says S Asians don’t have much E Asian is badly mistaken. Geography alone is a clue. Heck it is even reflected in the phenotype.

    For me there were a few pleasant surprises from this latest study, one of which is the extent of AASI introgression west of India. I always thought that AASI in Kurds and Iranians showing up in older calculators was nothing more than shared Iran N related shared between Kurds and S Asians. Apparently not the case, because even with sources such as IVC and Turan, I can’t get rid of AASI in them.....

    Another thing this study and calculator shows is how genetically similar Kurds/Iranics are to N S Asians. Not what you’d guess from looking at 23andme results, hah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
    A few comments:

    1- There is considerable genetic overlap between some MLBA-W and MLBA-E samples.
    2- Siberian-HG represents extra ANE that can't be accounted for by the Steppe and other Asian references
    3- From the samples tested, Iranian-Kurds-Afghan Pashtuns and Dluffy scored highest Scythian, with highest score going to an Afghan Pashtun. No surprises considering the historical range of the Saka. Amounts are likely inflated for populations east of India due to a lack of proper E Asian sources.
    Siberian_HG is West_Siberian_neolithic sample from SCA paper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    Siberian_HG is West_Siberian_neolithic sample from SCA paper?
    Yes, Daamgaard’s Lake Baikal samples have still not been released. BTW, your dad had the highest total Steppe score (previous page)
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    dear kurd ,
    kudos for all your work
    the indus valley sicililzation are the swat samples from north pakistan ?
    if thats the case shouldn't we call the indian periphery instead ?
    i score here 11% not shy number but given that there is no iranian neolithic reference it probably iranian neolithic allells shared with the pakistani swat refernces ?
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    which refernces did you used for STEPPE MLBA-E ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
    Yes, Daamgaard’s Lake Baikal samples have still not been released. BTW, your dad had the highest total Steppe score (previous page)
    Yes, but also interesting is nearly lack of Turan and higher Indus Valley compared to English sample. I wonder what it means. Indus Valley component is pre-Aryan only I suppose?

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