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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessie View Post
    I've posted my results in the other thread but it's interesting to compare to yours Caledonian.



    Quite similar over all, the biggest differences is your 5% higher Bell Beaker and my 5%ish higher Indus valley.
    Last edited by Caledonian; 05-05-2018 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombatofthenorth View Post
    I'm surprised people from the UK and Albania are getting such high Latvian HG results, especially those from the UK. Does that make any sense at all?
    I've even seen a half-Polish/half-Lithuanian score less.
    And even my mom only gets not even 2x as much as you guys at 5%.
    I have thought for a while now that there must be some ancient affinity between people in the isles and the Baltic nations. looking at my DNA results on Gedmatch there does seem to be some pull to the Baltic, and even on MyHeritage I score 11.3% Baltic.

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    Well after looking a bit at the other thread too:

    A few odd things, how are most UK people getting more than half the amount of Latvian HG that some Latvians get and some from the UK getting even more than Latvians get (5%) and 2x more than some half-Polish/half-Lithuanians get? And I see by far the highest amount for that so far is from Finnish 11%/8% and Ukrainians at 9%. Also some far south Balkans like Albanians are getting like 75% as much Latvian HG as Baltic area people.

    OTOH, Western HG is seeming to peak in Baltic people (10-15%) today.

    Latvian HG might be some sort of more recent HG group that seems to maybe peak in some odd stretch from Ukraine then sweeping far northwest into Finland and then dipping a bit into the northern Baltics and then also over far northern Scandinavian into the UK and then also stretching SW from the Ukraine a bit across the far southern Balkans but not hitting any other parts of Europe too much? Seems a very odd distribution? Does it make any sense? Anyway, the samples found in Latvia and so named, but the name being somewhat a misnomer?

    Western HG seems to be from the original HG of Europe who survived the Ice Age down at the tip of Iberia and then spread out all across Europe again but who then got super largely replaced everyone in Europe other than for the Baltics (although even here it might be just 10-15% left directly mediated).

    Or something is working a bit randomly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombatofthenorth View Post
    I'm surprised people from the UK and Albania are getting such high Latvian HG results, especially those from the UK. Does that make any sense at all?
    I've even seen a half-Polish/half-Lithuanian score less.
    And even my mom only gets not even 2x as much as you guys at 5%.
    I've noticed that as well, British people are getting around 3.5%, and mine is at 5.3% (originally 5.9%). Another Brit comparison here, my original results:

    EUROPEAN 51%

    Bell Beakers: 26.7%
    Western Hunter Gatherers: 1.7%
    European Neolithic Farmers: 16.8%
    Latvian Hunter Gatherers: 5.9%

    EURASIAN STEPPE 36.1%

    Steppe-MLBA-Western: 23.3%
    Siberian Hunter Gatherer: 1.6%
    Steppe-MLBA-Eastern: 7.3%
    Central & Eastern Scythians: 3.8%

    WESTERN EURASIAN STEPPE 8%

    Kura-Araxes: 8%

    EAST ASIAN 2.7%

    CENTRAL & SOUTH ASIAN 2.2%

    Indus Valley Civilisation: 2.1%

    And my new results:

    EUROPEAN 50.4%

    Bell Beakers: 24.8%
    Western European Hunter Gatherers: 3.2%
    European Neolithic Farmers: 17.1%
    Latvian Hunter Gatherers: 5.3%

    EURASIAN STEPPE 37.9%

    Steppe-MLBA-Western: 21.8%
    Siberian Hunter Gatherer: 1.7%
    Steppe-MLBA-Eastern: 9.9%
    Central & Eastern Scythians: 4.4%

    WESTERN EURASIAN STEPPE 7.9%

    Kura-Araxes: 7.9%

    CENTRAL & SOUTH ASIAN 2.2%

    Indus Valley Civilisation: 1.9%
    Ancestral Ancient South Asian: 0.3%

    EAST ASIAN 1.7%


    I'm really curious about the Kura-Araxes, other British people seem to get around 2-3%, whereas I get around 8%. That, along with the Latvian HG, is really interesting!

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    I like the Central & Eastern Scythian at 17%......ydna P????
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    EUROPEAN 56.6%

    Bell Beakers 26.6%
    Western European Hunter Gatherers 6.7%
    European Neolithic Farmers 19.5%
    Latvian Hunter Gatherers 3.9%


    EURASIAN STEPPE 30.0%

    STEPPE-MLBA-WESTERN 20.7%
    Siberian Hunter Gatherer 0.0%
    STEPPE-MLBA-EASTERN 4.2%
    Central & Eastern Scythians 5.1%

    CENTRAL & SOUTH ASIAN 10.9%

    Turan-Central 6.4%
    Indus Valley Civilization 4.5%
    Ancestral Ancient South Asian 0.0%

    WESTERN EURASIAN STEPPE 2.3%


    Kura-Araxes 2.3%
    Indus Valley Civilization 4.5%
    Ancestral Ancient South Asian 0.0%

    SUB-SAHARAN AFRICAN 0.1%

    EAST ASIAN 0.0%
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    *Eurogenes K15 - West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 6.696671
    *MDLP K23B - Dane_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ @ 1.366235
    *PuntDNAL K12 Ancient - Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.023980

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledonian View Post
    New update in and I'm now slightly more Bell Beaker and now have 8.1% Indus valley civilisation.

    8.1% Seems a bit high for a Scot, Irish hybrid like myself, and seems quite a bit higher than what I have seen from people of a similar ancestry.
    I score a High South / Central Asian myself, but I think it'll be higher due to an incursion of continental ancestry.

    CENTRAL & SOUTH ASIAN 10.9%

    Turan-Central 6.4%
    Indus Valley Civilization 4.5%
    Ancestral Ancient South Asian 0.0%
    Last edited by Vestri; 05-05-2018 at 08:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wombatofthenorth View Post
    Well after looking a bit at the other thread too:

    A few odd things, how are most UK people getting more than half the amount of Latvian HG that some Latvians get and some from the UK getting even more than Latvians get (5%) and 2x more than some half-Polish/half-Lithuanians get? And I see by far the highest amount for that so far is from Finnish 11%/8% and Ukrainians at 9%. Also some far south Balkans like Albanians are getting like 75% as much Latvian HG as Baltic area people.

    OTOH, Western HG is seeming to peak in Baltic people (10-15%) today.

    Latvian HG might be some sort of more recent HG group that seems to maybe peak in some odd stretch from Ukraine then sweeping far northwest into Finland and then dipping a bit into the northern Baltics and then also over far northern Scandinavian into the UK and then also stretching SW from the Ukraine a bit across the far southern Balkans but not hitting any other parts of Europe too much? Seems a very odd distribution? Does it make any sense? Anyway, the samples found in Latvia and so named, but the name being somewhat a misnomer?

    Western HG seems to be from the original HG of Europe who survived the Ice Age down at the tip of Iberia and then spread out all across Europe again but who then got super largely replaced everyone in Europe other than for the Baltics (although even here it might be just 10-15% left directly mediated).

    Or something is working a bit randomly?
    Dutch get this (on the 1.0 version

    Baltic HG 4-6%
    WHG 3-7%

    Not very different from the English.

    IMO for the Baltic one it's the 'Baltic influx' in the Nordic/Germanic tribes that went to NW Europe.....

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    Re: UK people and Latvian.
    I match full threshold on ged with Lithuanians in Lithuania lol
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    I imagine baltic countries will have some North European ancestry themselves due to Scandinavian influences?
    Also isn't farfetched to believe that Vikings took them as slaves when raiding them and dispersed their genes over North-West Europe over a few generations?

    Considering the R1a Corded Ware connection aswell that goes into much of Norway, much of it's going to be ancient linked? I would confidently believe many Scandinavian folk that came to Britain would also have brought these influences from previous generation raids and slave trades etc.
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    *Eurogenes K15 - West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 6.696671
    *MDLP K23B - Dane_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ + Dutch_ @ 1.366235
    *PuntDNAL K12 Ancient - Vatya_SG_RISE479 + Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 @ 1.023980

    Dad - Y-DNA R1a Z284 / MtDNA U5b2b1a1
    Mum - Y-DNA I1 / MtDNA W1g
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