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    Sorry for the mistake...
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    Quote Originally Posted by michal3141 View Post
    Tolan,

    Is it really interesting to me that the Yamnaya sample is like 50% West-Steppe and 50% East-Steppe. I wonder if there is a sample that is close to 100% West-Steppe or 100% East-Steppe. Does such a sample even exist?
    Well, I think the distinction was made during the separation to the west of Europe or to the east of Europe. So I think we will not find 100% Yamnaya sample 100% one or 100% the other
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    I am having problems running the files Tolan, would appreciate if you could upload it after correcting the F file, thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
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    FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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    0.86% Amerindian
    0.84% East-Asian
    0.06% East-African
    1.11% Oceanian
    0.02% Siberian
    75.21% South-Asian
    0.01% South-Chinese
    0.32% West-Africa

    0.00% West-Euro
    0.00% Central-Euro
    0.00% North-East-Euro
    0.00% North-Arrica
    0.00% Jordan_BA
    0.00% Mota
    0.00% Anatolian_CHL
    0.00% Armenia_CHL
    11.36% Iran_CHL
    0.00% West-Steppe
    0.00% East-Steppe
    10.22% Steppe_to_SCAsian

    for comparision
    Eurasia K14 Neolithic Oracle
    # Population Percent
    1 S_Indian 58.88
    2 Kalash 14.69
    3 Afansievo_Yamnaya 6.69
    4 Papuan 4.61
    5 Early_European_Farmers 3.95
    6 SW_Asian 3.94
    7 SE_Asian 3.54
    8 E_African 2.49
    9 S_Amerindian 1.2
    This "Steppe-to-ScAsia" components, I have not really tested it.
    Happy that it appears in some.
    I am surprised to see so much in a South Indian!
    Interressing to see what percentage it will have in a North Indian, Pakistani or Afghan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by randwulf View Post
    0.00% Amerindian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.00% Oceanian
    0.00% Siberian
    0.00% South-Asian
    0.00% South-Chinese
    0.00% West-Africa
    5.29% West-Euro
    51.44% Central-Euro
    5.00% North-East-Euro
    0.00% North-Arrica
    0.00% Jordan_BA
    0.00% Mota
    0.00% Anatolian_CHL
    0.00% Armenia_CHL
    0.00% Iran_CHL
    32.46% West-Steppe
    5.82% East-Steppe
    0.00% Steppe_to_SCAsian

    Thanks. Not sure what to make of my results. Will be interesting to compare to other British results,if there are any. Surprised at how high West-Steppe is and how low West- Euro. Perhaps I shouldn't be ?
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    Great looking calculator. I'm going to have to figure out how to run this myself.. this might just be the motivating factor for that.
    I'm always thinking about the possibly impossible question of differentiation between Celtic and Germanic peoples. The NE Euro category sort of sticks out here as some kind of indication of that perhaps. I notice that in the Randwulf collection his father and his FIL have higher NE Euro than the others and IIRC they seem to have a bit more "Germanic flavour" some of the time. Firemonkey who certainly has some of this too comes out with a 5.00. I went back to check Hinxton 4 and his 0.13% North-East-Euro indicates maybe there's something to this.. of course we cannot be sure.

    @Tolan would you be willing to test this little theory for me a bit further? Maybe some Driffield Terrace Romano-British? I'd be thinking 3DRIF16, 6DRIF18, 6DRIF21, and 6DRIF22 if possible and also some of the Anglo-Saxons? Are any of the other Iron Age Britons high coverage?
    Last edited by sktibo; 05-01-2018 at 05:14 AM.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Eastern European and Eastern German (Galicia, Poland) 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, French 8.2%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Thanks. Not sure what to make of my results. Will be interesting to compare to other British results,if there are any. Surprised at how high West-Steppe is and how low West- Euro. Perhaps I shouldn't be ?
    High West-Steppe is normal for a European of West.

    On the other hand, it's true, you have a low rate of West-Euro!
    But maybe that's normal for a English!
    In Hinxton, this rate is also very low.
    Some scientific articles have reported that in the Bronze Age, the replacement of the population in the UK has been huge!

    Hinxtons:

     

    Hinxton4
    0.00% Amerindian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.00% Oceanian
    0.00% Siberian
    0.00% South-Asian
    0.00% South-Chinese
    0.00% West-Africa
    13.62% West-Euro
    43.33% Central-Euro
    0.13% North-East-Euro
    0.00% North-Arrica
    0.00% Jordan_BA
    0.00% Mota
    0.00% Anatolian_CHL
    0.00% Armenia_CHL
    0.00% Iran_CHL
    32.78% West-Steppe
    10.14% East-Steppe
    0.00% Steppe_to_SCAsian

    Hinxton2
    0.00% Amerindian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.00% Oceanian
    0.00% Siberian
    0.00% South-Asian
    0.00% South-Chinese
    0.00% West-Africa
    0.00% West-Euro
    53.29% Central-Euro
    4.35% North-East-Euro
    0.00% North-Arrica
    0.00% Jordan_BA
    0.00% Mota
    0.00% Anatolian_CHL
    0.00% Armenia_CHL
    0.00% Iran_CHL
    38.15% West-Steppe
    4.21% East-Steppe
    0.00% Steppe_to_SCAsian

    Hinxton3
    0.00% Amerindian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.00% Oceanian
    0.00% Siberian
    0.00% South-Asian
    0.00% South-Chinese
    0.00% West-Africa
    0.00% West-Euro
    54.79% Central-Euro
    0.01% North-East-Euro
    0.00% North-Arrica
    0.00% Jordan_BA
    0.00% Mota
    0.00% Anatolian_CHL
    0.00% Armenia_CHL
    0.00% Iran_CHL
    42.24% West-Steppe
    2.96% East-Steppe
    0.00% Steppe_to_SCAsian

    Hinxton5
    0.00% Amerindian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.00% Oceanian
    0.00% Siberian
    0.00% South-Asian
    0.00% South-Chinese
    0.00% West-Africa
    6.23% West-Euro
    56.67% Central-Euro
    0.01% North-East-Euro
    0.00% North-Arrica
    0.00% Jordan_BA
    0.00% Mota
    0.00% Anatolian_CHL
    0.00% Armenia_CHL
    0.00% Iran_CHL
    21.53% West-Steppe
    15.56% East-Steppe
    0.00% Steppe_to_SCAsian
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    Quote Originally Posted by sktibo View Post
    Great looking calculator. I'm going to have to figure out how to run this myself.. this might just be the motivating factor for that.
    I'm always thinking about the possibly impossible question of differentiation between Celtic and Germanic peoples. The NE Euro category sort of sticks out here as some kind of indication of that perhaps. I notice that in the Randwulf collection his father and his FIL have higher NE Euro than the others and IIRC they seem to have a bit more "Germanic flavour" some of the time. Firemonkey who certainly has some of this too comes out with a 5.00. I went back to check Hinxton 4 and his 0.13% North-East-Euro indicates maybe there's something to this.. of course we cannot be sure.

    @Tolan would you be willing to test this little theory for me a bit further? Maybe some Driffield Terrace Romano-British? I'd be thinking 3DRIF16, 6DRIF18, 6DRIF21, and 6DRIF22 if possible and also some of the Anglo-Saxons? Are any of the other Iron Age Britons high coverage?
    I don't have any other samples of the Islands than the Hinxtons.

    If you know where I can download others, I'm interested
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    Me:
    0.00% Amerindian
    0.00% East-Asian
    0.00% East-African
    0.00% Oceanian
    0.00% Siberian
    0.00% South-Asian
    0.00% South-Chinese
    0.00% West-Africa
    24.63% West-Euro
    41.40% Central-Euro
    0.02% North-East-Euro
    0.00% North-Arrica
    0.00% Jordan_BA
    0.00% Mota
    0.00% Anatolian_CHL
    0.00% Armenia_CHL
    0.00% Iran_CHL
    24.93% West-Steppe
    9.03% East-Steppe
    0.00% Steppe_to_SCAsian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolan View Post
    Sorry for the mistake...
    I renamed the file in K20.par
    Hi Tolan, I could not find the renamed file in the shared folder link

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