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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    You are right in part, we don't have a sequenced genome of this individual so everything else aside from facial physical morphology and dating is unknown including skin pigmentation phenotype.
    oh..even the dark skin pigment is unconfirmed?

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    I always find these morphological representations redundant when they haven't sequenced the genome. And even then they're usually limited in what they can clue from the sequencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    You are right in part, we don't have a sequenced genome of this individual so everything else aside from facial physical morphology and dating is unknown including skin pigmentation phenotype.
    Even though the artist's license, pigmentation is probably correct. The hair likely correct too, though a copper color hair is possible.
    A red eye color is possible as in the Tamil photo posted.

    Unlike the Tamil, the Sahar Nahar Rai shows bone robustness with a remnant archaic brow ridge. The Tamil features developed as we became more gracile in the agricultural period.

    The Rakhigarhi ones too look tall but more gracile compared to the Ganga mesolitic.


    BR02 male of 1618 years, height 177.28 3.24 cm
    BR36 female of 3650 years, height 167.07 4.25 cm

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    No, it has some small traces of ancient whg like not present in castes probably from very old anatolian migration. castes have mlba mix which dilutes it
    Who has ancient whg?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    Even though the artist's license, pigmentation is probably correct. The hair likely correct too, though a copper color hair is possible.
    A red eye color is possible as in the Tamil photo posted.

    Unlike the Tamil, the Sahar Nahar Rai shows bone robustness with a remnant archaic brow ridge. The Tamil features developed as we became more gracile in the agricultural period.

    The Rakhigarhi ones too look tall but more gracile compared to the Ganga mesolitic.


    BR02 male of 16–18 years, height 177.28 3.24 cm
    BR36 female of 36–50 years, height 167.07 4.25 cm
    I dont want to sound too "phenotypical " ..so to speak..but the kallars and maravars among tamils are not exactly gracile....and may be quite coarse boned IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    Who has ancient whg?
    I believe there is some WHG come into Anatolian samples which resemble these ancient specimens

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    G25 Anc Dist 1.1 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 86.2 ITA_Sardinia_C_o 5.2 ITA_Daunian 1.4 VK2020_SWE_Gotland_VA 3.6 PAK_Saidu_S_H 3.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by vishankar View Post
    I dont want to sound too "phenotypical " ..so to speak..but the kallars and maravars among tamils are not exactly gracile....and may be quite coarse boned IMO
    My point was more about an increasing gracile nature from the Ganga Mesolithics to the modern Tamil.

    "The relatively lightly built skeletons of modern humans developed late in evolutionary history, and may have been the result of a shift away from a nomadic lifestyle to a more settled one ...

    modern humans have a relatively lightly built skeleton compared with those of chimpanzees — the closest living relatives of humans — as well with those of extinct human lineages ...

    about three-quarters to one-half as dense as those of our early human ancestors ...

    "We initially suspected that a more gracile, lightly built skeleton might be a characteristic of modern humans in general, compared to Neanderthals or our ancestors," Richmond said.

    Instead, the researchers discovered that the arms and legs of recent modern humans are lightly built compared not only with other living primates and with extinct human species, but also with modern humans from before the present Holocene Epoch, which began about 12,000 years ago. Rather than shifting gradually over time, bone density remained high throughout the history of human evolution, until the appearance of recent modern humans, when it decreased dramatically."

    this density drastically drops off in more recent times, when we started to use agricultural tools to grow food and settle in one place."
    https://www.livescience.com/49236-bo...evolution.html

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    Target: Daanyaal_scaled
    Distance: 2.8740% / 0.02874047
    62.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    16.2 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    6.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    6.6 Jarawa
    6.0 TJK_Sarazm_En
    1.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
    1.2 Gambian

    Target: Daanyaal_scaled
    Distance: 1.4528% / 0.01452758
    35.2 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    22.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    21.8 PAK_Katelai_LBA
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    1.2 CHN_Gaofeng_400BP
    1.2 RUS_Yana_MA
    0.8 BWA_Taukome_1100BP
    0.6 KEN_Kakapel_900BP
    0.6 MAR_EN
    0.6 UGA_Munsa_500BP
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkhanux View Post
    Hope I'm doing this right:

    Target: Daanyaal_scaled
    Distance: 2.8740% / 0.02874047
    62.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    16.2 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    6.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    6.6 Jarawa
    6.0 TJK_Sarazm_En
    1.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
    1.2 Gambian

    Target: Daanyaal_scaled
    Distance: 1.4528% / 0.01452758
    35.2 PAK_Saidu_Sharif_H_o
    22.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    21.8 PAK_Katelai_LBA
    5.6 VK2020_NOR_North_IA
    4.8 DEU_LBK_KD
    3.0 RUS_Ingria_IA
    2.2 KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul
    1.2 CHN_Gaofeng_400BP
    1.2 RUS_Yana_MA
    0.8 BWA_Taukome_1100BP
    0.6 KEN_Kakapel_900BP
    0.6 MAR_EN
    0.6 UGA_Munsa_500BP

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