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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    I see. So no EHG ancestry?
    nope. Although I am not sure if its ANE is WSHG derived specifically or from a Kumsay related source. But this population is ancient in this area and recent Neolithic individual had haplogroup U5 possibly from Kelteminar culture.
    Last edited by Kapisa; 12-06-2022 at 03:27 AM.

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    sample: ElShujinkoJ_scaled
    distance: 1.46
    Turan BA: 50.6
    Steppe MLBA: 28
    Indo-Gangetic BA: 18.8
    Tibetian-Himalayan: 2.6
    Target: ESJ
    1.3627% / 0.01362765
    56.2 Kalash
    43.8 Ror

    Davidski:
    Target: ESJ
    1.7890% / 0.01789038
    35.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    33.2 TJK_Sarazm_En
    27.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    2.2 Levant_PPNB
    2.0 Han

    Pegasus:
    Target: ESJ
    0.5212
    Kalash: 64
    Rorghost: 19
    CG_IVCp: 17

    Target: ESJ
    1.266
    CG_IVCp: 40.5
    Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA: 21.5
    Dzharkutan1_BA: 19.5
    Aigyrzhal_BA: 18.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElShujinko View Post
    sample: ElShujinkoJ_scaled
    distance: 1.46
    Turan BA: 50.6
    Steppe MLBA: 28
    Indo-Gangetic BA: 18.8
    Tibetian-Himalayan: 2.6
    You have a lot of Sarazm En similar to Kalash: an archaic population. Thats why you are getting a lot of Turan-BA, most likely similar to Sapporo (another Punjabi), but not the IVC type but more peripheral I8726/GonurBA2 outlier type with some Central Asia forager admixture similar to Darra-i-Kur. Further supporting admixture with populations of North Eastern Afghanistan/HinduKush rather than BMAC proper per say. Interesting that genetically Jatt population of Punjab does show a distinct profile from that of Haryana and UP.
    Sample: Kalash ► Average
    Fit: 1.4571
    Results: Shahr I Sokhta BA2 35
    Sarazm En 34
    Sintashta MLBA 31


    Sample: Kalash ► Average
    Fit: 1.26
    Results: Turan BA 61.6
    Steppe MLBA 22.2
    Indo-Gangetic BA 13.2
    Tibetian-Himalayan 3

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    Some important sites I keep mentioning:
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    My grandfather's results

    His steppe breakdown is 20.6% Sintashta and 2.4% Kzylbulak MLBA 1; his Turan meanwhile is Sappali Tepe2 BA 15.8% and DurraiKurMBA 7.8%.

    Sample: Inayat-Ali
    Fit: 2.27
    Results: Indo-Gangetic BA 50.8
    Turan BA 23.6
    Steppe MLBA 23
    Tibetian-Himalayan 2.6

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    First Punjabi Brahmin G25 - Doaba region (Jalandhar/Hoshiarpur), Punjab


    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 2.39
    IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA3: 52
    UZB Dzharkutan1 BA: 23.2
    RUS Srubnaya Alakul MLBA: 20.8
    NPL Chokhopani 2700BP: 4


    Here he shows higher Central Steppe pull (improved fits). He has an elevated East Asian.

    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 1.7063
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3: 53
    CG_CentralSteppeMLBA: 22.5
    Gonur1_BA: 21
    Chokhopani_2700BP: 3.5


    Kapisa's calculator

    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 1.74
    Indo-Gangetic BA: 48.4
    Turan BA: 28.2
    Steppe MLBA: 18.6
    Mongolia BA: 4.8

    Edit:
    He's most similar to Bored here.

    Sample Fit Shahr I Sokhta BA3 CG CentralSteppeMLBA Gonur1 BA Chokhopani 2700BP
    Rajasthani Brahmin Dadhich Gaur (Kaazi) 3.08 56 25.5 16.5 2
    Himachal Brahmin Average (Kaazi) 1.59 54.5 21.5 19 5
    bored AGUser (Brahmin Jammu) 1.90 53.5 21.5 20.5 4.5
    Punjabi Doaba Brahmin (Kaazi) 1.71 53 22.5 21 3.5
    Average (Punjabi Hindu India) 1.00 52.5 22.5 23.5 1.5
    Punjabi Tarkhan AVG (Duffydemon) 0.93 52 23.5 23.5 1
    Rahul77 AGUser (Potohar Brahmin) 1.12 51 21.5 24 3.5
    Rakhshakashmiripandit (rakhshakashmiri) 2.15 49.5 22 25 3.5
    global25 (kpb) 2.35 49 21 27 3
    BR Kashmiri Pandit-1 (Kashmiri Pandit) 1.36 45 22.5 28 4.5
    Last edited by Kaazi; 12-07-2022 at 02:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    First Punjabi Brahmin G25 - Doaba region (Jalandhar/Hoshiarpur), Punjab


    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 2.39
    IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA3: 52
    UZB Dzharkutan1 BA: 23.2
    RUS Srubnaya Alakul MLBA: 20.8
    NPL Chokhopani 2700BP: 4


    Here he shows higher Central Steppe pull (improved fits). He has an elevated East Asian.

    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 1.7063
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3: 53
    CG_CentralSteppeMLBA: 22.5
    Gonur1_BA: 21
    Chokhopani_2700BP: 3.5


    Kapisa's calculator

    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 1.74
    Indo-Gangetic BA: 48.4
    Turan BA: 28.2
    Steppe MLBA: 18.6
    Mongolia BA: 4.8

    Edit:
    He's most similar to Bored here.

    Sample Fit Shahr I Sokhta BA3 CG CentralSteppeMLBA Gonur1 BA Chokhopani 2700BP
    Rajasthani Brahmin Dadhich Gaur (Kaazi) 3.08 56 25.5 16.5 2
    Himachal Brahmin Average (Kaazi) 1.59 54.5 21.5 19 5
    bored AGUser (Brahmin Jammu) 1.90 53.5 21.5 20.5 4.5
    Punjabi Doaba Brahmin (Kaazi) 1.71 53 22.5 21 3.5
    Average (Punjabi Hindu India) 1.00 52.5 22.5 23.5 1.5
    Punjabi Tarkhan AVG (Duffydemon) 0.93 52 23.5 23.5 1
    Rahul77 AGUser (Potohar Brahmin) 1.12 51 21.5 24 3.5
    Rakhshakashmiripandit (rakhshakashmiri) 2.15 49.5 22 25 3.5
    global25 (kpb) 2.35 49 21 27 3
    BR Kashmiri Pandit-1 (Kashmiri Pandit) 1.36 45 22.5 28 4.5
    Can you also post his HW on the other thread?
    Into my heart an air that kills,
    From yon far country blows:
    What are those blue remembered hills,
    What spires, what farms are those?

    That is the land of lost content,
    I see it shining plain,
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    And cannot come again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    First Punjabi Brahmin G25 - Doaba region (Jalandhar/Hoshiarpur), Punjab


    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 2.39
    IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA3: 52
    UZB Dzharkutan1 BA: 23.2
    RUS Srubnaya Alakul MLBA: 20.8
    NPL Chokhopani 2700BP: 4


    Here he shows higher Central Steppe pull (improved fits). He has an elevated East Asian.

    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 1.7063
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3: 53
    CG_CentralSteppeMLBA: 22.5
    Gonur1_BA: 21
    Chokhopani_2700BP: 3.5


    Kapisa's calculator

    sample: Kaaziunjabi Doaba Brahmin
    distance: 1.74
    Indo-Gangetic BA: 48.4
    Turan BA: 28.2
    Steppe MLBA: 18.6
    Mongolia BA: 4.8

    Edit:
    He's most similar to Bored here.

    Sample Fit Shahr I Sokhta BA3 CG CentralSteppeMLBA Gonur1 BA Chokhopani 2700BP
    Rajasthani Brahmin Dadhich Gaur (Kaazi) 3.08 56 25.5 16.5 2
    Himachal Brahmin Average (Kaazi) 1.59 54.5 21.5 19 5
    bored AGUser (Brahmin Jammu) 1.90 53.5 21.5 20.5 4.5
    Punjabi Doaba Brahmin (Kaazi) 1.71 53 22.5 21 3.5
    Average (Punjabi Hindu India) 1.00 52.5 22.5 23.5 1.5
    Punjabi Tarkhan AVG (Duffydemon) 0.93 52 23.5 23.5 1
    Rahul77 AGUser (Potohar Brahmin) 1.12 51 21.5 24 3.5
    Rakhshakashmiripandit (rakhshakashmiri) 2.15 49.5 22 25 3.5
    global25 (kpb) 2.35 49 21 27 3
    BR Kashmiri Pandit-1 (Kashmiri Pandit) 1.36 45 22.5 28 4.5
    I think, bored, Himanchali brahmin, Rahul and Doaba Brahmin don't seem that different from each other overall, which would make sense since they are from the same community no? Hoshiarpur geographically too is closer to Himanchal/Jammu Hill states. Kashmiri Pandits are a bit unique from them but difference there too isn't drastic. Tarkhans/Ramgarhias would genetically be included in the same cluster. They pretty much cluster closer to Saidu-Sharif Historic individuals from the buddhist monastery, suggesting individuals buried there were more likely Brahmin/Tarkhan like from nearby regions of Kashmir and Punjab.
    https://genoplot.com/shared/pca/?sha.../184ec97f721#2
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    Last edited by Kapisa; 12-07-2022 at 12:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    Can you also post his HW on the other thread?
    Will ask later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    I think, bored, Himanchali brahmin, Rahul and Doaba Brahmin don't seem that different from each other overall, which would make sense since they are from the same community no? Hoshiarpur geographically too is closer to Himanchal/Jammu Hill states. Kashmiri Pandits are a bit unique from them but difference there too isn't drastic. Tarkhans/Ramgarhias would genetically be included in the same cluster. They pretty much cluster closer to Saidu-Sharif Historic individuals from the buddhist monastery, suggesting individuals buried there were more likely Brahmin/Tarkhan like from nearby regions of Kashmir and Punjab.
    https://genoplot.com/shared/pca/?sha.../184ec97f721#2
    Unknown-24.png
    Yes, they're similar overally (average-wise), with some variation. Tarkhan average is also almost same as Punjabi Hindu average. A group of Nepali Bahuns are there as well.

    Sample Fit Shahr I Sokhta BA3 CG CentralSteppeMLBA Gonur1 BA Chokhopani 2700BP
    Himachal Brahmin 2 (Duffydemon) 1.71 57 22.5 16.5 4
    Rajasthani Brahmin Dadhich Gaur (Kaazi) 3.08 56 25.5 16.5 2
    poi mom AGUser (Kaazi) 1.57 50 22.5 17 10.5
    2 F078351 (Nepalese A) 3.23 49 25.5 17 8.5
    bored AGUser (Brahmin Jammu) 1.90 53.5 21.5 20.5 4.5
    23 F092519 (Nepalese A) 2.29 52 22 20.5 5.5
    Ba48 (Bahun) 2.49 51 21 20.5 7.5
    Punjabi Doaba Brahmin (Kaazi) 1.71 53 22.5 21 3.5
    Himachal Brahmin (Duffydemon) 2.77 52.5 20.5 21 6
    20 F090751 (Nepalese A) 2.36 47.5 24 22.5 6
    Average (Punjabi Hindu India) 1.00 53 22.5 23 1.5
    Punjabi Tarkhan AVG (Duffydemon) 0.93 52 23.5 23.5 1
    Rahul77 AGUser (Potohar Brahmin) 1.12 51 21.5 24 3.5
    Rakhshakashmiripandit (rakhshakashmiri) 2.15 49.5 22 25 3.5
    global25 (kpb) 2.35 49 21.5 26.5 3
    BR Kashmiri Pandit-1 (Kashmiri Pandit) 1.36 45 22.5 28 4.5
    Last edited by Kaazi; 12-07-2022 at 04:03 PM.

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