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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    No, two brothers and one their niece another brother's daughter, and one nephew their sister's son.
    Modern populations doesn't say much its basically random Indo Aryan groups pooled together.
    Ancients show more patterns, but essentially what I have said a million times on here, a composite Sintashta/BMAC population mixing with a SIS3/SSo like population even more AASI rich than many of those upcoming Iran_N rich IVC samples, which IMO were largely from Balochistan/Western Sind and more proximal to Shahr I Sokta and Bampur, hence why they found 10 of them there.

    Punjabi_Jat: (Averaged)

    distance%: 0.58

    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 33.29
    Gonur1_BA 20.12
    Krasnoyarsk_MLBA 15.06
    Saidu_Sharif_IA_o 11.63
    Darra_i_kur 6.86
    Nomad_His 3.32
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1 3.13
    Avar_Hungary_Szolad 2.67
    Germany_Medieval 2.53
    Sintashta_MLBA_o1 1.39
    Last edited by pegasus; 02-26-2019 at 11:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post
    Modern populations doesn't say much its basically random Indo Aryan groups pooled together.
    Ancients show more patterns, but essentially what I have said a million times on here, a composite Sintashta/BMAC population mixing with a SIS3/SSo like population even more AASI rich than many of those upcoming Iran_N rich IVC samples, which IMO were largely from Balochistan/Western Sind and more proximal to Shahr I Sokta and Bampur, hence why they found 10 of them there.

    Punjabi_Jat: (Averaged)

    distance%: 0.58

    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 33.29
    Gonur1_BA 20.12
    Krasnoyarsk_MLBA 15.06
    Saidu_Sharif_IA_o 11.63
    Darra_i_kur 6.86
    Nomad_His 3.32
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1 3.13
    Avar_Hungary_Szolad 2.67
    Germany_Medieval 2.53
    Sintashta_MLBA_o1 1.39
    When looking at these models, I’ve found the SISBA3+outlier to be most telling of groups and the “Cline”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    No, two brothers and one their niece another brother's daughter, and one nephew their sister's son.
    For some reason your sample is closer to Ramgrahias due to lesser Barcin no OAkaie & more Tatar like steppe element. Whereas all others don't have those extremities so look Jat like.
    Y: H-M69 -> H-M82 -> SK1225 -> H-Z5888 -> H-Z5890 -> H-CTS8144 [CTS8144/PF1741/M5498] -> Z34531 (H1a1a4b3b1a8~)
    found 2875 BCE -> Jiroft/IVC Periphery 11459 Shahr-i-Sokte BA2
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    G25 Ancients Dist 0.79 IND_Roopkund_A 51.05 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 46.64 MAR_Iberomaurusian2.04PAK_Katelai_IA0.19 TKM_Gonur2_BA 0.08

    Lactose Persistence rs3213871 rs4988243 rs4988183 rs3769005 rs2236783
    found -> DA125, Kangju

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    For some reason your sample is closer to Ramgrahias due to lesser Barcin no OAkaie & more Tatar like steppe element. Whereas all others don't have those extremities so look Jat like.
    There is no known Ramgrahias among us as far as we know. Ramgrahias or Khatri/pathan like?
    Last edited by Jatt1; 02-27-2019 at 06:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post
    Modern populations doesn't say much its basically random Indo Aryan groups pooled together.
    Ancients show more patterns, but essentially what I have said a million times on here, a composite Sintashta/BMAC population mixing with a SIS3/SSo like population even more AASI rich than many of those upcoming Iran_N rich IVC samples, which IMO were largely from Balochistan/Western Sind and more proximal to Shahr I Sokta and Bampur, hence why they found 10 of them there.

    Punjabi_Jat: (Averaged)

    distance%: 0.58

    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 33.29
    Gonur1_BA 20.12
    Krasnoyarsk_MLBA 15.06
    Saidu_Sharif_IA_o 11.63
    Darra_i_kur 6.86
    Nomad_His 3.32
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1 3.13
    Avar_Hungary_Szolad 2.67
    Germany_Medieval 2.53
    Sintashta_MLBA_o1 1.39
    Thank you so very much for your input. What is your opinion about tipirneni's response to the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    Thank you so very much for your input. What is your opinion about tipirneni's response to the same?
    I'm sure pegasus has his own view. There will be surface level differences in ancients between individuals within groups due to overlap between ancestral sources. Tarkhans and Jatts are not so different that one Tarkhan could not have overlapping ancients with a jatt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    For some reason your sample is closer to Ramgrahias due to lesser Barcin no OAkaie & more Tatar like steppe element. Whereas all others don't have those extremities so look Jat like.
    Since we've only one ramgarhia sample which is me, it's more like he's more similar to me, than saying to ramgarhias as a group. Although it's no brainer both groups have shared ancients since they live in same region. But as a group Ramgarhia and Jat average based on harappa is different, the highest steppe Ramgarhia we've according to harappa is still near the lower end for jatt steppe average.

    Also update: I was able to get another Ramgarhia data, I've already sent the data and payment to david, very curious what he ends up scoring like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    Since we've only one ramgarhia sample which is me, it's more like he's more similar to me, than saying to ramgarhias as a group. Although it's no brainer both groups have shared ancients since they live in same region. But as a group Ramgarhia and Jat average based on harappa is different, the highest steppe Ramgarhia we've according to harappa is still near the lower end for jatt steppe average.

    Also update: I was able to get another Ramgarhia data, I've already sent the data and payment to david, very curious what he ends up scoring like.
    But you yourself are close to Jatts, actually more like Brahmins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    But you yourself are close to Jatts, actually more like Brahmins.
    We still don't have Punjabi Brahmin results on nmonte, but Ramgarhias on general get either Punjabi Brahmin or Kashmiri Pandit as top oracle.

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    Another update, convinced another one to get coordinates, now we will have 3 ramgarhia samples, at least a better average of the group. They both are unrelated to me, one hails from Morinda, other one is from Ludhiana/Jagraon. Will pm you the coordinates poi once I receive them.

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